Judaism in its Own Words

[surada]

Of course the bible has nothing to do with the islamo nazis----
as to "wife" I know of no single hebrew word that can accurately
be translated as "wife"-----do you?

I don't read Hebrew. I read the Old Testament in English.

 

[surada]

Of course the bible has nothing to do with the islamo nazis----
as to "wife" I know of no single hebrew word that can accurately
be translated as "wife"-----do you?

Keturah: Midrash and Aggadah | Jewish Women's Archive

Keturah was one of Abraham’s wives. The Rabbis describe her as a woman of virtue, for which she was worthy of being joined to Abraham.

jwa.org

 

[irosie91]

I don't read Hebrew. I read the Old Testament in English.

yes-----lots of mistranslations. There are mistranslations even in the
Septuagint-----or just words that miss the connotations. It is clear
even in the English translation----for example, that HAGAR is not
really a "wife" in the sense that Sarah was. The issue at that time would
have been the code of Hummarabi. How many actual "wives" did
King Saud have?-----uhm----or the head of the episcopalian church---
King Henry VIII ?

 

[irosie91]

Keturah: Midrash and Aggadah | Jewish Women's Archive

Keturah was one of Abraham’s wives. The Rabbis describe her as a woman of virtue, for which she was worthy of being joined to Abraham.

jwa.org

who wrote that opinion?----the midrash ain't tanach

 

[surada]

yes-----lots of mistranslations. There are mistranslations even in the
Septuagint-----or just words that miss the connotations. It is clear
even in the English translation----for example, that HAGAR is not
really a "wife" in the sense that Sarah was. The issue at that time would
have been the code of Hummarabi. How many actual "wives" did
King Saud have?-----uhm----or the head of the episcopalian church---
King Henry VIII ?

Ibn Saud had four wives and dozens of concubines. Was great fun when they came to town.

 

[Mindful]

I don't read Hebrew. I read the Old Testament in English.

You mean the Torah?

 

[surada]

You mean the Torah?

Right. I'm not Jewish although I rather admire their teachings.

 

[irosie91]

Ibn Saud had four wives and dozens of concubines. Was great fun when they came to town.

oh---but the children of the concubines were part of the "royal family"
of so I was informed by a Saudi colleague whose medical education was
funded by "family" money due to his membership thereof. Just how
things went with kids born on the left side of the bed in the time of
Abraham is not at all clear to me.

 

[surada]

oh---but the children of the concubines were part of the "royal family"
of so I was informed by a Saudi colleague whose medical education was
funded by "family" money due to his membership thereof. Just how
things went with kids born on the left side of the bed in the time of
Abraham is not at all clear to me.

Concubines we're former wives for the most part. ..and yes they are family.

Abraham had 318 fighting men in his household.

 

[irosie91]

Concubines we're former wives for the most part. ..and yes they are family.

Abraham had 318 fighting men in his household.

roflmao @ "former wives" Henry VIII has lots of "former wives" too

 

[surada]

Henry couldn't get a divorce. Divorce is permitted in Islam.

 

[irosie91]

Concubines we're former wives for the most part. ..and yes they are family.

Abraham had 318 fighting men in his household.

why the ^^^^ deflection----Abraham was the head of a desert
community-----whole families His "men" cannot be assumed to
be his kids living in HIS TENT

 

[Lisa558]

yes-----lots of mistranslations. There are mistranslations even in the
Septuagint-----or just words that miss the connotations. It is clear
even in the English translation----for example, that HAGAR is not
really a "wife" in the sense that Sarah was. The issue at that time would
have been the code of Hummarabi. How many actual "wives" did
King Saud have?-----uhm----or the head of the episcopalian church---
King Henry VIII ?

Or “almah” - which Christians have translated to virgin. It really means a young woman, of marriageable age.

 

[surada]

why the ^^^^ deflection----Abraham was the head of a desert
community-----whole families His "men" cannot be assumed to
be his kids living in HIS TENT

Born in his house.

Abram’s 318 Men

Genesis 14:14 says that Abram mustered his trained men, “born in his house,” to rescue Lot, and gives their number as 318. It is clear that the precise number is provided for some reason, but what is it? S. Gevirtz notes that 318 is the sum of all the prime numbers between 7 and 7 squared, to wit

theopolisinstitute.com

 

[DudleySmith]

So what do you suggest, a holocaust?




We as gentiles, ARE unclean, we ARE sinners, and we ARE like animals, but when we accept the blood of Jesus, we are cleaned and made pure. We wouldn't get to heaven if it wasn't for the Jews, because it was they who were first.

One Jew, not 'The Jews'. The modern Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox are not the Judaism of Moses, they're a racist Babylonian cult formed by Pharisees in the 2nd century A.D. They in fact discriminated against most Jews themselves, especially the Samaritans. All of the ultra-Orthodox and many of the Orthodox sects are no better than Nazis themselves. The lack of Prophets after Ezra and the Babylonian exiles and their Persian Temple pretty much says God didn't consider them to be part of the Covenant, according to thier own standards.

 

[Lisa558]

Then why haven't I heard any of it? The focus of Judaism (and it shows in any of the synagogues I have been in) is on God and His Law. In the original Hebrew, the word we translate as "hate" is often better defined as "loves less" or less preferred.

Same here. Only an antisemite would say that hatred against Christians is “taught on a daily basis in any synagogue.” The fact is that Christianity, Christians, Jesus, etc., is never mentioned in any service. It has nothing to do with Judaism.

 

[Lisa558]

He isn't Anti-Semite because he is against Judaism as a wrong religion of hate.
Rapture is described in the Holy Bible
If Jews want to be saved they shall convert to Christianity

What?? He thinks Judaism is “the religion of hate,” and you are going to say he’s not antisemitic?

 

[rylah]

So many non-Jews want to tell us what is Judaism?

 

[Lisa558]

Judaism is NOT a Religion.​

I consider more of a “people.” More than a religion, less than a race.

 

[surada]

He isn't Anti-Semite because he is against Judaism as a wrong religion of hate.
Rapture is described in the Holy Bible
If Jews want to be saved they shall convert to Christianity

Absolute nonsense.