Jordan hanged the filthy suicide whore this morning.

[ChrisL]

So torturing prisoners to death [ an innocent man at that] is OK with you but if ISIS tortures a man by burning him they are worst ?

This begs the question why you are so hell bent on his thinking the way you want him to.

Do you know him/her personally? Some anonymous black writing on a screen?

why are you posting to me ? do you know me ? why are you so hell bent on engaging me on this subject ?

Lol. Did someone tell you to say that?

So you think I am posting some other person;s words that were told to me to post ? that seems a bit paranoid...

Paranoid? Did you ever study dictionaries?

Look, the flaming zone is that way..............>

Can you imagine the sick mind it takes to try to compare the United States military to a rag tag team of uneducated, religious fanatic terrorists?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I condemn in absolute and categorical terms what ISIS has done to prisoners but here is what we did to a totally innocent man:

Mr. Dilawar, age 22, had the misfortune to be driving his taxi back to his hometown with three passengers while on a road where a US military outpost had been the subject of a rocket attack. He spent five days at Afghan Air Force Base, shackled to a wall, his legs beaten to a pulp. This is a description of what he endured there at the hands of his interrogators, most of whom considered him innocent:



Black hood over his head caused difficulty breathing:


"He could not breathe," said ... one of Mr. Dilawar's passengers. [Note, the three surviving passengers were detained at Guantanamo for one year, before being released in March 2004 with official documents stating they posed no risk to the United States]
Forced to kneel and hold his arms, which were hand cuffed, over his head during interrogation:



[Dilawar] was unable to hold his cuffed hands above his head as instructed, prompting Sergeant Salcedo to slap them back up whenever they began to drop.
Beatings for not being able to sit upright because of the condition of his legs:



When Mr. Dilawar was unable to sit in the chair position against the wall because of his battered legs, the two interrogators grabbed him by the shirt and repeatedly shoved him back against the wall.
Kicked in groin; Pulled to standing position using his beards, foot crushed by interrogator's boot:



"They stood him up, and at one point Selena stepped on his bare foot with her boot and grabbed him by his beard and pulled him towards her," he went on. "Once Selena kicked Dilawar in the groin, private areas, with her right foot. She was standing some distance from him, and she stepped back and kicked him.
Dilawar's head slammed into table:



"[US Interrogator] had a rule that the detainee had to look at him, not me," the interpreter told investigators. "He gave him three chances, and then he grabbed him by the shirt and pulled him towards him, across the table, slamming his chest into the table front."
Threatened with anal rape:



Specialist Walls grabbed the prisoner and "shook him harshly," the interpreter said, telling him that if he failed to cooperate, he would be shipped to a prison in the United States, where he would be "treated like a woman, by the other men" ...
And of course the constant smashing of Mr. Dilawar's legs, shattering them into who knows how many tiny pieces:



The findings of Mr. Dilawar's autopsy were succinct. He had had some coronary artery disease, the medical examiner reported, but what caused his heart to fail was "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities."
One of the coroners later translated the assessment at a pre-trial hearing for Specialist Brand, saying the tissue in the young man's legs "had basically been pulpified."

"I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus," added Lt. Col. Elizabeth Rouse, the coroner, and a major at that time.

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Still doesn't make America equivalent to ISIS, you sick bastard.

it makes America better? you seem to be growing increasingly angry at your own impotence to counter my posts ....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I condemn in absolute and categorical terms what ISIS has done to prisoners but here is what we did to a totally innocent man:

Mr. Dilawar, age 22, had the misfortune to be driving his taxi back to his hometown with three passengers while on a road where a US military outpost had been the subject of a rocket attack. He spent five days at Afghan Air Force Base, shackled to a wall, his legs beaten to a pulp. This is a description of what he endured there at the hands of his interrogators, most of whom considered him innocent:



Black hood over his head caused difficulty breathing:


"He could not breathe," said ... one of Mr. Dilawar's passengers. [Note, the three surviving passengers were detained at Guantanamo for one year, before being released in March 2004 with official documents stating they posed no risk to the United States]
Forced to kneel and hold his arms, which were hand cuffed, over his head during interrogation:



[Dilawar] was unable to hold his cuffed hands above his head as instructed, prompting Sergeant Salcedo to slap them back up whenever they began to drop.
Beatings for not being able to sit upright because of the condition of his legs:



When Mr. Dilawar was unable to sit in the chair position against the wall because of his battered legs, the two interrogators grabbed him by the shirt and repeatedly shoved him back against the wall.
Kicked in groin; Pulled to standing position using his beards, foot crushed by interrogator's boot:



"They stood him up, and at one point Selena stepped on his bare foot with her boot and grabbed him by his beard and pulled him towards her," he went on. "Once Selena kicked Dilawar in the groin, private areas, with her right foot. She was standing some distance from him, and she stepped back and kicked him.
Dilawar's head slammed into table:



"[US Interrogator] had a rule that the detainee had to look at him, not me," the interpreter told investigators. "He gave him three chances, and then he grabbed him by the shirt and pulled him towards him, across the table, slamming his chest into the table front."
Threatened with anal rape:



Specialist Walls grabbed the prisoner and "shook him harshly," the interpreter said, telling him that if he failed to cooperate, he would be shipped to a prison in the United States, where he would be "treated like a woman, by the other men" ...
And of course the constant smashing of Mr. Dilawar's legs, shattering them into who knows how many tiny pieces:



The findings of Mr. Dilawar's autopsy were succinct. He had had some coronary artery disease, the medical examiner reported, but what caused his heart to fail was "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities."
One of the coroners later translated the assessment at a pre-trial hearing for Specialist Brand, saying the tissue in the young man's legs "had basically been pulpified."

"I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus," added Lt. Col. Elizabeth Rouse, the coroner, and a major at that time.

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Start a thread about it.

did someone dictate those words to you to post to me

 

[Mindful]

That's because people who would try to equate America with ISIS are nothing but worthless scumbags who should be shunned by society.

other than the name calling do you approve of grabbing an innocent man who is working at his job in his own country taking him into a military prison and beating him to death to get information the man did not have? do you approve

Yes____
No_____

I believe I already answered your dumb irrelevant question. Prisoner abuse will happen. It happens everywhere. That is completely irrelevant to the things ISIS does. I'm sure you already know this though, unless you really are stupid.

so prisoner abuse happens everywhere including ISIS but you only object to what ISIS does ...now I understand morals are for ISIS only..check

The failure is strong with this one. Lol. Could you be any more ridiculous?

You cannot proffer a reasoned argument with facts and links as I have so you declare yourself the winner .....that is all ...

There are no winners in this.

It's about Jordan's response to ISIS. Not a game of Jeopardy.

 

[gtopa1]

If you lived in the ME and ran your mouth like you do here, you would already be dead. There's one difference, genius.

That is irrelevant...if you ran your mouth you also would be dead...so what...by the way here is what we do in the US to just regular prisoners in our jails
FL Prison Guards Boil Mentally Ill Inmate Alive

Darren Rainey, Mentally Ill Inmate, Dies Unspeakable Death ...

Prisoner: I cleaned up skin of inmate scalded in shower ...

Yes? Prisoner abuse is going to happen at times. That does nothing to say that America is like ISIS, you moron.

So torturing prisoners to death [ an innocent man at that] is OK with you but if ISIS tortures a man by burning him they are worst ?

No, it is not okay, but it does not make your point either. Of course, no system is PERFECT. There is bound to be occasional instances of prisoner abuse. Duh.

The White House has announced that CIA operatives, including contractors, who followed Bush guidelines for torturing prisoners will not be prosecuted for these actions, regardless of the Obama administration’s position on the legality of the techniques they used. “t is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution,” President Obama said in a statement released [April 16, 2009].

Which does NOT leave the way open to killers, murderers and rapists if there is EVIDENCE to convict them.

More GIs Charged With Iraqi Abuse - CBS News

Now bring your ISIS pals into the same courts!!

Greg

 

[ChrisL]

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Still doesn't make America equivalent to ISIS, you sick bastard.

it makes America better? you seem to be growing increasingly angry at your own impotence to counter my posts ....

Because you are failing in trying to make your case, using isolated rare instances of prisoner abuse and trying to compare it to a rag tag team of killers? Lol. Seek help. You really are sick.

 

[Mindful]

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Start a thread about it.

did someone dictate those words to you to post to me

Keep trying. lol.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

This begs the question why you are so hell bent on his thinking the way you want him to.

Do you know him/her personally? Some anonymous black writing on a screen?

why are you posting to me ? do you know me ? why are you so hell bent on engaging me on this subject ?

Lol. Did someone tell you to say that?

So you think I am posting some other person;s words that were told to me to post ? that seems a bit paranoid...

Paranoid? Did you ever study dictionaries?

Look, the flaming zone is that way..............>

Can you imagine the sick mind it takes to try to compare the United States military to a rag tag team of uneducated, religious fanatic terrorists?

I compared the actions the behavior ISIS and the US with prisoners...

 

[ChrisL]

why are you posting to me ? do you know me ? why are you so hell bent on engaging me on this subject ?

Lol. Did someone tell you to say that?

So you think I am posting some other person;s words that were told to me to post ? that seems a bit paranoid...

Paranoid? Did you ever study dictionaries?

Look, the flaming zone is that way..............>

Can you imagine the sick mind it takes to try to compare the United States military to a rag tag team of uneducated, religious fanatic terrorists?

I compared the actions the behavior ISIS and the US with prisoners...

This doesn't even make sense. Learn English.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Keep trying. lol.

You too ....

 

[gtopa1]

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Start a thread about it.

did someone dictate those words to you to post to me

Nah; but marchy musta read your peabrained little mind a few minutes ago. Same shit; different shovel!!

Greg

 

[Mindful]

why are you posting to me ? do you know me ? why are you so hell bent on engaging me on this subject ?

Lol. Did someone tell you to say that?

So you think I am posting some other person;s words that were told to me to post ? that seems a bit paranoid...

Paranoid? Did you ever study dictionaries?

Look, the flaming zone is that way..............>

Can you imagine the sick mind it takes to try to compare the United States military to a rag tag team of uneducated, religious fanatic terrorists?

I compared the actions the behavior ISIS and the US with prisoners...

I think you got lost in the corridor.

Try beaming up to home. Back to the womb.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

This doesn't even make sense. Learn English.

"Me cago en el coño de tu madre "

 

[gtopa1]

This doesn't really have anything to do with Israel though.

There are actually some people who really are dumber than a brick and believe that America is just as "evil" as ISIS. Either that, or they support the cause of ISIS and their tactics. I don't doubt that either.

I condemn in absolute and categorical terms what ISIS has done to prisoners but here is what we did to a totally innocent man:

Mr. Dilawar, age 22, had the misfortune to be driving his taxi back to his hometown with three passengers while on a road where a US military outpost had been the subject of a rocket attack. He spent five days at Afghan Air Force Base, shackled to a wall, his legs beaten to a pulp. This is a description of what he endured there at the hands of his interrogators, most of whom considered him innocent:



Black hood over his head caused difficulty breathing:


"He could not breathe," said ... one of Mr. Dilawar's passengers. [Note, the three surviving passengers were detained at Guantanamo for one year, before being released in March 2004 with official documents stating they posed no risk to the United States]
Forced to kneel and hold his arms, which were hand cuffed, over his head during interrogation:



[Dilawar] was unable to hold his cuffed hands above his head as instructed, prompting Sergeant Salcedo to slap them back up whenever they began to drop.
Beatings for not being able to sit upright because of the condition of his legs:



When Mr. Dilawar was unable to sit in the chair position against the wall because of his battered legs, the two interrogators grabbed him by the shirt and repeatedly shoved him back against the wall.
Kicked in groin; Pulled to standing position using his beards, foot crushed by interrogator's boot:



"They stood him up, and at one point Selena stepped on his bare foot with her boot and grabbed him by his beard and pulled him towards her," he went on. "Once Selena kicked Dilawar in the groin, private areas, with her right foot. She was standing some distance from him, and she stepped back and kicked him.
Dilawar's head slammed into table:



"[US Interrogator] had a rule that the detainee had to look at him, not me," the interpreter told investigators. "He gave him three chances, and then he grabbed him by the shirt and pulled him towards him, across the table, slamming his chest into the table front."
Threatened with anal rape:



Specialist Walls grabbed the prisoner and "shook him harshly," the interpreter said, telling him that if he failed to cooperate, he would be shipped to a prison in the United States, where he would be "treated like a woman, by the other men" ...
And of course the constant smashing of Mr. Dilawar's legs, shattering them into who knows how many tiny pieces:



The findings of Mr. Dilawar's autopsy were succinct. He had had some coronary artery disease, the medical examiner reported, but what caused his heart to fail was "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities."
One of the coroners later translated the assessment at a pre-trial hearing for Specialist Brand, saying the tissue in the young man's legs "had basically been pulpified."

"I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus," added Lt. Col. Elizabeth Rouse, the coroner, and a major at that time.

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Have they been declared factual by a court of Law?? NO!!

Then they are in dispute and therefore the presumption of innocence applies.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

That's because people who would try to equate America with ISIS are nothing but worthless scumbags who should be shunned by society.

other than the name calling do you approve of grabbing an innocent man who is working at his job in his own country taking him into a military prison and beating him to death to get information the man did not have? do you approve

Yes____
No_____

I believe I already answered your dumb irrelevant question. Prisoner abuse will happen. It happens everywhere. That is completely irrelevant to the things ISIS does. I'm sure you already know this though, unless you really are stupid.

so prisoner abuse happens everywhere including ISIS but you only object to what ISIS does ...now I understand morals are for ISIS only..check

The failure is strong with this one. Lol. Could you be any more ridiculous?

You cannot proffer a reasoned argument with facts and links as I have so you declare yourself the winner .....that is all ...

You have no undisputed FACTS, silly!!

Greg

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Start a thread about it.

did someone dictate those words to you to post to me

Nah; but marchy musta read your peabrained little mind a few minutes ago. Same shit; different shovel!!

Greg

authorization for these acts of savagery reached the highest levels of the US Military Command, if Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, interviewed in 2006 on the CBS News Show, 60 minutes is to be believed. He claimed to reporter Scott Pelley that he smelled a rat immediately upon learning of the deaths at Bagram:



"I was developing the picture as to how this all got started in the first place, and that alarmed me as much as the abuse itself because it looked like authorization for this abuse went to the very top of the United States government," says Wilkerson.
In 2002, the "top of the government" was divided over whether the Geneva Convention applied to prisoners in Afghanistan. The resulting presidential directive tried to have it both ways ordering that the "…armed forces shall continue to treat detainees humanely" but Geneva would apply only "to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity...."

It's Wilkerson's opinion that the Army chose to ignore Geneva when it issued new rules for interrogations in Afghanistan and Iraq

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

other than the name calling do you approve of grabbing an innocent man who is working at his job in his own country taking him into a military prison and beating him to death to get information the man did not have? do you approve

Yes____
No_____

I believe I already answered your dumb irrelevant question. Prisoner abuse will happen. It happens everywhere. That is completely irrelevant to the things ISIS does. I'm sure you already know this though, unless you really are stupid.

so prisoner abuse happens everywhere including ISIS but you only object to what ISIS does ...now I understand morals are for ISIS only..check

The failure is strong with this one. Lol. Could you be any more ridiculous?

You cannot proffer a reasoned argument with facts and links as I have so you declare yourself the winner .....that is all ...

You have no undisputed FACTS, silly!!

Greg

Yes I have the facts...the name of the building, when it happened where it happened and what the coroner who did the autopsy said about the cause of deaths...I provided links...what have you provided other than lame snark ?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I condemn in absolute and categorical terms what ISIS has done to prisoners but here is what we did to a totally innocent man:

Mr. Dilawar, age 22, had the misfortune to be driving his taxi back to his hometown with three passengers while on a road where a US military outpost had been the subject of a rocket attack. He spent five days at Afghan Air Force Base, shackled to a wall, his legs beaten to a pulp. This is a description of what he endured there at the hands of his interrogators, most of whom considered him innocent:



Black hood over his head caused difficulty breathing:


"He could not breathe," said ... one of Mr. Dilawar's passengers. [Note, the three surviving passengers were detained at Guantanamo for one year, before being released in March 2004 with official documents stating they posed no risk to the United States]
Forced to kneel and hold his arms, which were hand cuffed, over his head during interrogation:



[Dilawar] was unable to hold his cuffed hands above his head as instructed, prompting Sergeant Salcedo to slap them back up whenever they began to drop.
Beatings for not being able to sit upright because of the condition of his legs:



When Mr. Dilawar was unable to sit in the chair position against the wall because of his battered legs, the two interrogators grabbed him by the shirt and repeatedly shoved him back against the wall.
Kicked in groin; Pulled to standing position using his beards, foot crushed by interrogator's boot:



"They stood him up, and at one point Selena stepped on his bare foot with her boot and grabbed him by his beard and pulled him towards her," he went on. "Once Selena kicked Dilawar in the groin, private areas, with her right foot. She was standing some distance from him, and she stepped back and kicked him.
Dilawar's head slammed into table:



"[US Interrogator] had a rule that the detainee had to look at him, not me," the interpreter told investigators. "He gave him three chances, and then he grabbed him by the shirt and pulled him towards him, across the table, slamming his chest into the table front."
Threatened with anal rape:



Specialist Walls grabbed the prisoner and "shook him harshly," the interpreter said, telling him that if he failed to cooperate, he would be shipped to a prison in the United States, where he would be "treated like a woman, by the other men" ...
And of course the constant smashing of Mr. Dilawar's legs, shattering them into who knows how many tiny pieces:



The findings of Mr. Dilawar's autopsy were succinct. He had had some coronary artery disease, the medical examiner reported, but what caused his heart to fail was "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities."
One of the coroners later translated the assessment at a pre-trial hearing for Specialist Brand, saying the tissue in the young man's legs "had basically been pulpified."

"I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus," added Lt. Col. Elizabeth Rouse, the coroner, and a major at that time.

Are you comparing the abuse of a prisoner to what ISIS does? That's sick, dude. Get some perspective.

The prisoner [ a totally absolutely innocent man] was beaten to death ...he was killed in a gruesome horrific abominable manner by our heroes ..live with t with that ...it cannot be denied ...its documented ...we took a prisoner and tormented him to death ...crushed his legs to the point his heart failed because the blood could no longer flow...how is that different from ISIS ?

You have EVIDENCE?? No: only hearsay. Stop being so stupid!!

Greg

Its not hear say its documented the death of Dilawar by torture at the hands of US troopers is a fact

Have they been declared factual by a court of Law?? NO!!

Then they are in dispute and therefore the presumption of innocence applies.

Greg

Has there been some facts presented in a court of law against ISIS ..can you link ?

 

[ChrisL]

I believe I already answered your dumb irrelevant question. Prisoner abuse will happen. It happens everywhere. That is completely irrelevant to the things ISIS does. I'm sure you already know this though, unless you really are stupid.

so prisoner abuse happens everywhere including ISIS but you only object to what ISIS does ...now I understand morals are for ISIS only..check

The failure is strong with this one. Lol. Could you be any more ridiculous?

You cannot proffer a reasoned argument with facts and links as I have so you declare yourself the winner .....that is all ...

You have no undisputed FACTS, silly!!

Greg

Yes I have the facts...the name of the building, when it happened where it happened and what the coroner who did the autopsy said about the cause of deaths...I provided links...what have you provided other than lame snark ?

You are a sick person who needs help.

 

[ChrisL]

other than the name calling do you approve of grabbing an innocent man who is working at his job in his own country taking him into a military prison and beating him to death to get information the man did not have? do you approve

Yes____
No_____

I believe I already answered your dumb irrelevant question. Prisoner abuse will happen. It happens everywhere. That is completely irrelevant to the things ISIS does. I'm sure you already know this though, unless you really are stupid.

so prisoner abuse happens everywhere including ISIS but you only object to what ISIS does ...now I understand morals are for ISIS only..check

The failure is strong with this one. Lol. Could you be any more ridiculous?

You cannot proffer a reasoned argument with facts and links as I have so you declare yourself the winner .....that is all ...

You have no undisputed FACTS, silly!!

Greg

It doesn't even matter. He has NO point. Prisoner abuse is going to happen because other human beings are in control of them, and some of those human beings are going to be "bad" people. This is no way equatable to the actions of ISIS. Lol. It's a sickness some of these people suffer from. I wish we could send them to the ME to live.