Johnson drags heels on conversion therapy ban

[ESay]

About the OP and conversion therapy. In 1990 the WHO excluded homosexuality and bisexuality from the list of mental health disorders. A vast number of psychiatrists and associations recognized this therapy to be ineffective and even harmful.

So, maybe the time has come to abolish this practice.

The same WHO that handled the Chinese virus so well? OK

Well, let professionals in this field decide upon this matter. From what I have read, many of them disagree with this practice.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

You are so confused. First of all, we are not talking about gender. We are talking about sexual orientation.

You are also confused about the difference between lifestyle and sexual orientation, the later of which is not fluid

But, some gay people have been compelled to live a straight,-because of bigotry that they faced- even going so far as to marry someone of the opposite sex which often ends badly. Happily, that is far less common these days as society has evoloved, even if some individuals have not. Many of those people ame out as gay later in life, but their orientation has not changed.

Then you have to consider bi sexual people who, a various points in life, and depending on romantic opportunities my either live live a gay or staright ( Or openly bi) Again, their orientation has not changed, by their lifestyle has.

Happy to havebeen of help

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

How is banning conversion therapy the right thing? You may not believe it works and maybe it doesn't, but what ever happened to freedom of choice? If someone wants to go the route of conversion therapy why shouldn't they have that option of it's of their own free will. Who are you or any government official to take that away from them?

Because the role of government is to protect people from harmful practices and products. The government regulates many things that effect the health and safety of people, from medications and standars for medical practice, to consumer product safety. This is no different. You mightwant to take a look at this:

Actor Alyson Stoner checked herself into conversion therapy. Now she's speaking out against it. - LGBTQ Nation

Alyson Stoner said she "only desired to be a devoted follower of God" when she fell in love with a woman.

www.lgbtqnation.com

I believe that in the US, this practice has not been banned for consenting adults but it has been banned for children who have been shamed and coersed into it with disasterous consequences

 

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Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So the government should be empowered to tell folks what therapy they can and cannot have? Fascist Alert!

 

[Ringtone]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

Leftists are mindless, statist thugs:

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So the government should be empowered to tell folks what therapy they can and cannot have? Fascist Alert!

The government is empowered to determine what medical proceedures and medications are safe and effective to protect consumers. Therapy is a medical proceedure. Theapists must be trained a licensed and like physicians, are obligated to do no harm . Regulating it is not Fascism

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

Leftists are mindless, statist thugs:

Bigots who shame people into harmful conversion therapy are mindless thugs

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This thread is only a few months old but it already feels incredibly dated. Some of the attitudes are from the last century.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So the government should be empowered to tell folks what therapy they can and cannot have? Fascist Alert!.,

When the government coerces , or allows others to coerce people into being something that they are not, it is fascism. That includes matters of religion , political beliefs and affiliation AND sexual orientation. People who go into conversion therapy are all, on some level coerced. It may not be overt and obvious, but they are indeed motivated by bigotry and a desire to be accepted and not marginalized

 

[Polishprince]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

What's "evil" about it in the least?
Conversion Therapy is just People helping People who want to change.

If you are satisfied with taking it in the caboose, fine. But not everyone is, and some want help to break the sodomy habit.

Here in America, we believe that anyone can realize their dreams. And if someone has a dream to be Normative, what's wrong with that? And if someone wants help in straightening out, what is wrong with that?

 

[Papageorgio]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

Why the hell are you people talking about gebder when the subject is gay conversion therapy ??See post 62,66,67 and 69!

 

[Papageorgio]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

Why the hell are you people talking about gebder when the subject is gay conversion therapy ??See post 62!

Don’t read it then, I don’t care if you like it or not, I was commenting on someone else’s observation, you don’t like, to bad so sad. Here’s a tissue.

 

[Polishprince]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

Why the hell are you people talking about gebder when the subject is gay conversion therapy ??See post 62,66,67 and 69!

What the hell is wrong with People helping People?

that's all what Gay Conversion Therapy is, you know.

Homosexuals who want to change seeking help to do exactly that.

This is America. Anyone can be whatever they want to be. And if they want to be normative, there are people willing to help them achieve their goals.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

Why the hell are you people talking about gebder when the subject is gay conversion therapy ??See post 62,66,67 and 69!

What the hell is wrong with People helping People?

that's all what Gay Conversion Therapy is, you know.

Homosexuals who want to change seeking help to do exactly that.

This is America. Anyone can be whatever they want to be. And if they want to be normative, there are people willing to help them achieve their goals.

See post 62,66,67 and 69!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

Leftists are mindless, statist thugs:

You want to talk about mindless thugs?

Conversion therapy practice forced to pay $3.5 million after losing appeal in historic lawsuit - LGBTQ Nation

The organization told gay and bi men to strip naked, call each other anti-gay slurs, and cuddle with older men to receive "Golden Father Energy." The jury said that's not therapy.

www.lgbtqnation.com

An appeals court in New Jersey upheld a $3.5 million judgment against a conversion therapy practice that forced clients to strip naked, cuddle with older men, call each other anti-gay slurs, and beat pillow-effigies of their mothers in order to turn them straight or cisgender. Conversion therapy survivors and practitioners have been in court for close to a decade in the historic case that used consumer protection laws to take down a conversion therapy practice.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

So people can go from straight to gay but not gay to straight why again?

And here I was led to believe gender was "fluid"

It’s only fluid if you are agreeing with the purposed agenda, if you run counter, you are taking away freedoms.

Why the hell are you people talking about gebder when the subject is gay conversion therapy ??See post 62,66,67 and 69!

What the hell is wrong with People helping People?

that's all what Gay Conversion Therapy is, you know.

Homosexuals who want to change seeking help to do exactly that.

This is America. Anyone can be whatever they want to be. And if they want to be normative, there are people willing to help them achieve their goals.

See post 76 and tell us if that is what you call help

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Boris Johnson apologises to LGBT+ advisers forced to quit over ‘hostile environment’

Boris Johnson apologised to members of the government's LGBT+ Advisory Panel who quit this week over inaction on conversion therapy.

www.pinknews.co.uk

To be fair the tories have come a long way since the dark days of thatcher. They have gay MPs now but you know that they are uneasy with it.
Conversion therapy is an evil practise that is promoted by religious extremists and has no place in a civilised society. Why are they not doing the right thing here ?

Leftists are mindless, statist thugs:

You want to talk about mindless thugs?

Conversion therapy practice forced to pay $3.5 million after losing appeal in historic lawsuit - LGBTQ Nation

The organization told gay and bi men to strip naked, call each other anti-gay slurs, and cuddle with older men to receive "Golden Father Energy." The jury said that's not therapy.

www.lgbtqnation.com

An appeals court in New Jersey upheld a $3.5 million judgment against a conversion therapy practice that forced clients to strip naked, cuddle with older men, call each other anti-gay slurs, and beat pillow-effigies of their mothers in order to turn them straight or cisgender. Conversion therapy survivors and practitioners have been in court for close to a decade in the historic case that used consumer protection laws to take down a conversion therapy practice.

There is a famous play called The Alchemist by Ben Johnson, one of Shakespeare's contempories. Alchemy is a fake science where the con men persuaded the rubes that they could turn base metal into Gold.

It was set in the C16th and was very funny and a sign of how stupid our forbears were.

I laughed out loud reading it and thinking how could people be so stupid.

In the C21st I now know .

 

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Leftists and Atheists -= Mindless Morons.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Leftists and Atheists -= Mindless Morons.

No matter how many times you post that judgemental bigoted bovine excrement, it will still be nothing more than admission that some people -you included- are not advanced enough to be the masters of themsleves.