Joe’s accomplishments...are Americans “winning”?

[AntonToo]

well other then him saying as much and the agreement that listed the conditions

What conditions? If you ACTUALLY listened to what Trump was saying all the way up to withdrawal is that Biden should pull out SOONER.

Oh man, Trump sure knew how to get things done...I guess he was just too busy with something else.

 

[struth]

What conditions were listed that Biden changed?

If you ACTUALLY listened to what Trump was saying all the way up to withdrawal is that Biden should pull out SOONER.

Oh man, Trump sure knew how to get things done.

trump didn’t have the intel xiden has when he left office

why don’t you actual read the agreement that you keep talking about?

 

[AntonToo]

trump didn’t have the intel xiden has when he left office

Yep, you just reach into that endless excuse bucket and just pull out some other bs.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No, I've just learned how you play the game.

When you receive a response to a question, you will do one of two things: You'll either (a) distort the words of the person who responded to you to match your hyper-partisan agenda, or (b) outright fabricate their words and opinions, often by starting your post with "TRANSLATION:....", creating something entirely new and nothing even close to what the poster had actually said.

You're not a serious person. Your value is in providing fascinating behaviors for analysis, but nothing else.

Stop with the bullshit, stop with the blurry ambiguity...I call you out on your blurry bullshit. For example....Tell us how America becomes better as it browns...show us the data. Explain how you arrive at the positions you do...or admit that you are all about your FEELZ and not rational logic, admit that you are advocating for the degradation of America.

 

[struth]

Yep, you just reach into that endless excuse bucket and just pull out some other bs.

well yes the facts to debunk your twisted logic deflecting from what is currently happening alway for your cult leader Dear Xiden is endless

 

[AntonToo]

well yes the facts to debunk your twisted logic deflecting from what is currently happening alway for your cult leader Dear Xiden is endless

You sound delusional.

 

[struth]

You sound delusional.

says the guy talking about a former president and irrelevant agreement

xiden lied, people died

 

[busybee01]

With Covid surging, $4-$5 fuel, higher taxes looming, more illegals running our streets, are good, real core Americans “winning” with this administration?
I want to hear from you...Which of Joe’s policies have you, the core American winning?

None of what you say is true. The surging coronavirus has been caused by reckless Republican governors. Higher fuel prices are inevitable due to increased economic activity. There is no proof that more illegals are walking the street.

Bottom line is that the covid vaccine is available to anyone who wants it. Also Biden has attempted to help people who are being impacted by the coronavirus. The stimulus bill was far superior to ordinary Americans than what Republicans passed. He is repealing Trump's inane policies.

 

[busybee01]

Accomplishments are supposed to take you forward. Everything Joe does keeps driving us backward.

Republican governors are doing that. They are allowing huge surges in the coronavirus. On Thursday, 901 people in Florida died from the coronavirus. Republicans are supporting voter suppression. That is taking us backwards.

 

[busybee01]

It's stunning how quickly Biden has wrecked things. I know Biden voters who are desperately missing Trump now.

Anyone who is sane is not missing Trump. Trump was the one who broke things. Biden is having to deal with that.

"Why not, because Trump allowed Taliban's taking control of the country's supply lines as result of the "peace" agreement?"
Where does it state that Trump conceded control of Afghan "supply lines" to the Taliban?

• "Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."
• Bolton told CNN: "Had Trump been re-elected, he’d be doing the same thing. On this question of withdrawal from Afghanistan, Trump and Biden are like Tweedledee and Tweedledum."

In addition other former Trump Admin members have called out the agreement that Trump signed.

Lisa Curtis, a former senior National Security Council official who sat alongside Afghanistan envoy Zalmay Khalilzad during the negotiations with the Taliban, told AP: "The Doha agreement was a very weak agreement, and the U.S. should have gained more concessions from the Taliban."

Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who was fired by Trump in November 2020, said he believed at the time the agreement was signed that it should have been "conditions-based," which is in part why he later objected to Trump's call for a Christmas homecoming for U.S. troops.

• Esper told CNN that although Biden is responsible for the outcome in Afghanistan, Trump "undermined" the agreement and weakened U.S. leverage in negotiations by impatiently calling for troop reductions in the country.

Trump officials back away from 2020 Taliban peace deal after withdrawal chaos

"Our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban."

www.axios.com

 

[busybee01]

From your own link: But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.


apparently you have...that line from the admin has been debunked repeatedly...even Xiden acknowledged it Biden: I would have sought Afghanistan withdrawal even without Trump’s Taliban deal

President Joe Biden revealed in a new interview that he still would have sought to pull American forces out of Afghanistan even if former President Donald Trump had not struck a deal with the Taliban last year that paved the way for an eventual U.S. troop withdrawal.

“I would have tried to figure out how to withdraw those troops, yes,” Biden told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in an interview conducted Wednesday. Segments of the interview aired Wednesday on ABC’s “World News Tonight” and Thursday on “Good Morning America.”

The president’s acknowledgment comes after he and top aides have argued the White House’s hands were tied by the Trump-era agreement — brokered last February in Doha, Qatar — saying it forced Biden to follow through on a full-scale Afghanistan withdrawal in his opening months in office.

But Biden’s latest statement that he would have pursued a pullout of U.S. troops regardless of Trump’s negotiations with the Taliban complicates the current administration’s argument for its own withdrawal order.

No it does not. Biden would have pursued a withdrawal does not mean he would have signed the same deal that Trump did.