Joe was bad, Trump was worse

[IM2]

Not according to what is being said now.
Trump has a kind of mean campaign video, but nevertheless is accurate and very real.
"A vote today for Biden, is a vote tomorrow for Harris".
And Kamala Harris is a moron. She is not even close to Presidential material. That laughing hyena as President??
Talk about a joke!
If Biden actually won... he will not remain in office. No chance.
And Kamala Harris will become President.

More racism. Harris is a better option than Trump. She is more than qualified for the job.

 

[JoeB131]

These are dead Russian soldiers. Tens of thouands of Russians have died. But you guys call Biden weak. Yet Trump would have done nothing and Putin would be thinking about invading other former Soviet Bloc countries.

Why do you think this is a good thing? Yes, Putin did a bad thing, but Zelensky was far from innocent. He repeatedly violated the Minsk Accords that would have allowed Ethnic Russians in the Donbas to decide their fate.

Right now, the war is in a bloody stalemate, and there will be no "winners", only losers.

 

[JoeB131]

More racism. Harris is a better option than Trump. She is more than qualified for the job.

And she is less popular.

sorry, guy, you want to win in November, you need to nominate a white man. Deal with it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trump starting to poll outside the margin of error.
Joe won't be around much longer.

 

[MisterBeale]

i care that not one of the kennedys are endorsing him, much like paul gosar (R) AZ ... he has 11 siblings that have endorsed his opponents when he was up for re-election.

but you do you, MB.

Well, that is the difference between you and I, and it always has been.

. . . in fact, the is the difference between me and the majority of the forum. I can count on just a handful of people, who don't give a shit about politics, and only think for themselves, and thusly? Only write about the facts, not what the media, the government, or others say or believe. . . just what the facts are.

You should judges a person by what they say and do, not on propaganda and fallacies.



I don't let the media or others influence me.

I look at the facts, and make up my own mind.

 

[playtime]

The world looks at Biden anmd sees a leader. Because hes the one who has the NATO countries helping in support of Ukraine. Trump can't do that. Putin looks at Trump and sees this:

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That he can manipulate by just telling him how great he is.

exactly. look what the saudis did for him -

that country was the first official over seas visit after dnny was installed. not any nation from NATO as is the tradition of US presidents.

oh! & don't forgot this gem -

 

[playtime]

I don't let the media or others influence me.

I look at the facts, and make up my own mind.

you also support trump. do you support that he has now been elevated above the law? if it is between biden & donny - who you voting for, mr B?

B honest.

 

[MisterBeale]

you also support trump.

Now that you have lost the exchange? You feel it necessary to construct straw-men?

Even Ropey would tell you this is false, but he is not allowed out of the FZ, but go ask him.

What absurdity is this?

do you support that he has now been elevated above the law? if it is between biden & donny - who you voting for, mr B?

Of course I don't.

IMO? The whole thing was planned, years in advance, to trick the population to vote for Trump, for this very reason, by the deep state establishment bureacracy.

I study and track this stuff over the decades and take a long view, and get called a tin-foil hatter for my efforts.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/if-trump-wins-impeach-him.1110992/post-34790960

I haven't seen anyone worth voting for the top office for over a decade, so no person has gotten my endorsement for president.

B honest.

I don't write lies. I make errors, and when they are pointed out, I always acknowledge them.

 

[DStar777]

you also support trump.

What would opposition to Trump have to look like for you to accept it??

 

[playtime]

Now that you have lost the exchange? You feel it necessary to construct straw-men?

i've lost nothing.

Even Ropey would tell you this is false, but he is not allowed out of the FZ, but go ask him.

that's interesting - why is that?

What absurdity is this?


Of course I don't.

IMO? The whole thing was planned, years in advance, to trick the population to vote for Trump, for this very reason, by the deep state establishment bureacracy.

oh boy......

I study and track this stuff over the decades and take a long view, and get called a tin-foil hatter for my efforts.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/if-trump-wins-impeach-him.1110992/post-34790960

I haven't seen anyone worth voting for the top office for over a decade, so no person has gotten my endorsement for president.

okey dokey. that's a shame. especially since this may be the very last time you could.

I don't write lies.

i never said you did.

I make errors, and when they are pointed out, I always acknowledge them.

start with the fact that you have assumed i fill a role that i cannot fill.

i am an indie. i am not a (D) - but certainly not an (R). i am however, married to an (R) ... a REAL (R); not the pseudo nutters that have highjacked the GOP. i

i have voted for (D)s (R)s & green party for local, state & national office. but this time it is different. way ******* different to wait for the perfect candidate who checks off all the boxes on all issues to satisfy all fears, anger & wedges.

 

[MisterBeale]

i've lost nothing.

You knee jerked to a staw-man fallacies of every sort, when I pointed out the simple fact, that RFKjr. is more qualified than either Trump or Biden to hold the top office RIGHT NOW.

. . I'm not saying I would vote for him, I am just point out a simple fact. Biden is too old, and Trump is too corrupt.

You built a straw-man argument, and then you deployed a poisoning the well. . . and on and on, because you did not like to read the obvious facts.




This line of discussion is no longer interesting me, because frankly? I don't believe, based on several of your responses, that you even want to discuss things in good faith.


Some things are more important than a person's political, ideological or other types of beliefs. What is more important? The characteristics of intellectual and moral growth, a person's health, and their integrity.

IN MY OPINION, RFKjr has all of these, much more over the other two.


Now. . . .


I do not blame you for not sharing my opinion on any of this. My thoughts and ideas, and the facts I base them on, conflict with much of the media you consume, so, we'll just say the fault lay with me and not you.

Either way, nothing more productive will come of this line of discussion, it will just devolve to you resorting to defense mechanisms to defend your world view.

Cognitive dissonance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I watched TYT yesterday commenting on the debate? It was a riot.

Hell, I'm watching the entire left-wing of America go through this right now. They are either in this mode, or practicing epic levels of Stockholm.

 

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You knee jerked to a staw-man fallacies of every sort, when I pointed out the simple fact, that RFKjr. is more qualified than either Trump or Biden to hold the top office RIGHT NOW.

. . I'm not saying I would vote for him, I am just point out a simple fact. Biden is too old, and Trump is too corrupt.

You built a straw-man argument, and then you deployed a poisoning the well. . . and on and on, because you did not like to read the obvious facts.




This line of discussion is no longer interesting me, because frankly? I don't believe, based on several of your responses, that you even want to discuss things in good faith.



I do not blame you for not sharing my opinion on any of this.

how magnaimous of you mr. B.

My thoughts and ideas, and the facts I base them on, conflict with much of the media you consume, so, we'll just say the fault lay with me and not you.

media i consume ... like what, exactly?

I watched TYT yesterday commenting on the debate? It was a riot.

i occasionally watch their videosor tune in live... did you know that cenk uygur was on the ballot this year running against biden?

Hell, I'm watching the entire left-wing of America go through this right now. They are either in this mode, or practicing epic levels of Stockholm.

okey dokey!

 

[MisterBeale]

And she is less popular.

sorry, guy, you want to win in November, you need to nominate a white man. Deal with it.

IT won't happen.

 

[MisterBeale]

did you know that cenk uygur was on the ballot this year running against biden?

I did. He wanted a test case for someone that wasn't born in the U.S.

I love to follow EVERYTHING.

 

[MisterBeale]

media i consume ... like what, exactly?

Only stuff that agrees with your worldview.

 

[playtime]

Only stuff that agrees with your worldview.

false.

 

[playtime]

Even Ropey would tell you this is false, but he is not allowed out of the FZ, but go ask him.

i gotta know why!!!???!!!

 

[MisterBeale]

More racism. Harris is a better option than Trump. She is more than qualified for the job.

I was curious about this.

While she is probably better than Trump. . . she is still an embarrassment for the nation & DNC as a politician.
She is really more of a litigator, a technocrat, and not a diplomat, world leader or someone who can advance a party position.

Realistically, most Americans don't believe she is the best qualified.

I went to a black woman's forum today to see what they thought, and it was not good.

Someone has posted this as an OP thread, and others in that thread, pointed out that it was a yt supremacist, "interloper," stirring up shit on their forum.

'We Gon' Blow The Party Up': Delegate Warns Black Women Will Destroy Dems If They Choose 'White Man Over Kamala'

A delegate for Biden warned that black women will abandon the party if Democrats replace the presumptive nominee with another

dailycaller.com

Several of them reported it and wanted the thread locked.

Only about a fifth of those in the three page thread, had a good opinion of Harris TBH.. . .

I'm not sure you have a clear reading of this. . . . But then, who knows if they are all black women, they just claim to be.




If they don't think she should be in charge?

That doesn't say a lot, TBH.

 

[MisterBeale]

false.

Oh yeah? Read a lot of ZeroHedge and LewRockwell do ya?

 

[MisterBeale]

i gotta know why!!!???!!!

I'm just teasing.

I've seen him in the announcements. Strangely, no where else.