JFK - 58 years and still hiding

[Mushroom]

abandoning his post in the military

He abandoned nothing. He was given a hardship discharge. However, as he had not yet completed 8 years of service, he was put in the "Fleet Marine Reserve". That was standard then, and is still the norm today. Even those that complete their 4 years of active duty then spend 4 years in the "Marine Reserve" in an inactive status until final discharge.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Hell, look at his Wikipedia page. And rarely have I seen a page with such edit wars, or with so damned many "Citation needed" claims. In fact, for his entire military service, there is "citation needed" for every single claim other than his spending about 2 weeks at the South Pole. And it just goes on and on after that. Including more claims of his being a senior executive for Amtrak, and other things until he shows up as an editor for a conspiracy theory magazine.

He claims to have written for encyclopedias, written textbooks, and once again not a single reference to verify these claims. Hell, after being caught lying in a House Committee hearing, he then claimed he was lied to himself in order to hide the truth. Even the Church Commission (which was certainly antagonistic towards the intelligence services) outright rejected Colonel Prouty and the claims he made to them.

And he has made some whoppers. Like that the 1960 Francis Gary Powers U-2 incident was sabotaged on purpose so it would be shot down, by people who wanted to end all talks between Eisenhower and Khrushchev. And he was a speaker for Liberty Lobby, a racist conspiracy organization that endorsed such things as Holocaust Denial, supporting the KKK, and even the forced repatriation of all blacks in the US to Africa.

Oh, and was itself the plaintiffs of a landmark Supreme Court decision. Where in Anderson V. Liberty Lobby, LL filed a string of lawsuits without any merit as retribution for Jack Anderson printing articles critical on LL. The same lawsuit that set the precedent still used today for dismissing frivolous lawsuits.

So people are really telling us we should believe the ramblings of this guy, who openly supported, was a member of, and spoke for groups supporting nazis and the ejection of minorities from the country.

He is exactly the kind of guy conspiracy nuts rely on. TheOtherMike AKA angelo always finds the most worthless sources and posts videos of them. He lacks the intellect to make any kind of reasonable post.

LARAM is the same. Jim Marrs is as loopy and idiotic as prouty and LARAM considers him a god.

Gipper seldom names anyone because most of HIS claims are crap he dreams up out of thin air

 

[Mushroom]

He was kicked out of the Marines.

Hmmm, yes and no.

He was not really "Kicked Out". However, he was given a Discharge Condition that made him ineligible to ever return to the military. In modern times, this would be called an "RE Code". And a great many companies at that time took such things much more seriously than they do today. And this was done because even though it was inactive reserve, he did indeed abandon his duties in it, such as reporting one day a year for evaluation.

 

[Mushroom]

Gipper seldom names anyone because most of HIS claims are crap he dreams up out of thin air

What, you mean he can't prove that running 3 miles in 45 minutes can only be done by an Olympic class sprinter?

*laugh*

 

[Soupnazi630]

Hmmm, yes and no.

He was not really "Kicked Out". However, he was given a Discharge Condition that made him ineligible to ever return to the military. In modern times, this would be called an "RE Code". And a great many companies at that time took such things much more seriously than they do today. And this was done because even though it was inactive reserve, he did indeed abandon his duties in it, such as reporting one day a year for evaluation.

The point is he was no longer in the Marines and had no post to abandon.

The little detail ignored by Whitehall.

He also never renounced his citisenship. He claimed to have an intention to renounce it but never got around to it. It has to be done in court

 

[the other mike]

some lone nobody claiming to be an insider proves nothing ....

...makes more sense than the official story. 3:40

 

[Soupnazi630]

...makes more sense than the official story. 3:40

No it does not.

You do not grasp the official story

Like all childish conspiracy nuts you have no idea what the Warren Commission reported. You naively believe what you are told and refuse to even thiunk about it critically.

 

[gipper]

The point is he was no longer in the Marines and had no post to abandon.

The little detail ignored by Whitehall.

He also never renounced his citisenship. He claimed to have an intention to renounce it but never got around to it. It has to be done in court

The only US Marine to ever defect to the USSR, who verbally shit on the US on his way out, is magically allowed back home with his Soviet wife, given back his passport and given money by the US government. Then later, given jobs by CIA agents. Proclaims loudly his love of Castro and communism, but somehow gets a job at the building that just magically overlooks the JFK motorcade, that weirdly takes a very slow zig zag route through Dailey Plaza, including a sharp left turn right in front of the TSBD building…the building where magically Oswald is working. Yet the Secret Service never bother to pick up Oswald, who is well known to all as a supposed communist radical. When shots are fired, for some strange reason the secret service agent driving the presidential limo SLOWS down.

Oh…it’s all just a coincidence.

 

[the other mike]

White House delays release of JFK assassination files "to protect against identifiable harm"

President Biden said the delay was "necessary" and "outweighs the public interest in immediate disclosure."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Soupnazi630]

The only US Marine to ever defect to the USSR, who verbally shit on the US on his way out, is magically allowed back home with his Soviet wife, given back his passport and given money by the US government. Then later, given jobs by CIA agents. Proclaims loudly his love of Castro and communism, but somehow gets a job at the building that just magically overlooks the JFK motorcade, that weirdly takes a very slow zig zag route through Dailey Plaza, including a sharp left turn right in front of the TSBD building…the building where magically Oswald is working. When shots are fired, for some strange reason the secret service agent driving the presidential limo SLOWS down.

Oh…it’s all just a coincidence.

Yes moron.

It is not and was not illegal for a former Marine to leave the USA and move to the USSR. There is also NOTHING magical about returning with his wife. People are allowed to be communist here and love Castro. He was a communist which makes him a fool but is legal.

He was never given a job by CIA agents. That is one more detail you MADE UP.

There is nothing magical about him getting a job there nor the fact that the motorcade route NEEDED to drive by the TSBD. He got the job there BEFORE the route was even planned proving you wrong.

Yes you cannot prove anything other than coincidence.

 

[Soupnazi630]

White House delays release of JFK assassination files "to protect against identifiable harm"

President Biden said the delay was "necessary" and "outweighs the public interest in immediate disclosure."

www.cbsnews.com

When will you post evidence ?

 

[gipper]

What, you mean he can't prove that running 3 miles in 45 minutes can only be done by an Olympic class sprinter?

*laugh*

Lol.

Let’s do a little thought experiment. You’ve just blown off the head of a US President in broad daylight, and a cop finds you magically in the lunchroom several floors below your snipers nest casually drinking a coke, just minutes after you committed the crime. You don’t bother to immediately leave the scene. You actually get in line to take the city bus. You go back to your home and grab your handgun, which somehow you forgot to take when you left that morning to kill the President. Instead of having preset plans to escape the city, you go to the theater to watch a movie on the day you committed the crime of the century.

Makes sense to Allen Dulles’ grandson, but not many others.

 

[the other mike]

When will you post evidence ?

I'll sell you a copy of my book.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Lol.

Let’s do a little thought experiment. You’ve just blown off the head of a US President in broad daylight, and a cop finds you magically in the lunchroom several floors below your snipers nest casually drinking a coke, just minutes after you committed the crime. You don’t bother to immediately leave the scene. You actually get in line to take the city bus. You go back to your home and grab your handgun, which somehow you forgot to take when you left that morning to kill the President. Instead of having preset plans to escape the city, you go to the theater to watch a movie on the day you committed the crime of the century.

Makes sense to Allen Dulles’ grandson, but not many others.

Massive failure.

It was only five floors below the sixth floor where he shot Kennedy and that was an easy walk to make. Endless tourists prove this every year retracing the route and it is fact he had ample time to walk that distance and buy a coke.

Nothing magical about it.

He did immediately leave the scene. He got in line for a bus because he had no car DUH.

He did not forget to take the gun. The pistol was at the boarding house but he spent the night at ruth payne's house in Irving texas.

He only had a day to plan and no car to make a " preplanned " escape.

Your throught experiment is a failure due to lack of intelligent thought about what happened,

 

[Soupnazi630]

I'll sell you a copy of my book.

Answer he question.

Where is the evidence for your absurd and foolish claims?

 

[the other mike]

Lol.

Let’s do a little thought experiment. You’ve just blown off the head of a US President in broad daylight, and a cop finds you magically in the lunchroom several floors below your snipers nest casually drinking a coke, just minutes after you committed the crime. You don’t bother to immediately leave the scene. You actually get in line to take the city bus. You go back to your home and grab your handgun, which somehow you forgot to take when you left that morning to kill the President. Instead of having preset plans to escape the city, you go to the theater to watch a movie on the day you committed the crime of the century.

Makes sense to Allen Dulles’ grandson, but not many others.

Every time I get a head shot on a deer from 265 feet away, his head flops backward towards me....it's weird . Sort of defies physics.

 

[Mushroom]

The only US Marine to ever defect to the USSR, who verbally shit on the US on his way out

Which is not saying much. In reality, only a handful of Americans ever defected, and as far as I am aware all the others had been in the Navy. Most of the defectors had actually been spies, that had either been caught or were on the verge of being caught when they defected.

 

[the other mike]

Which is not saying much. In reality, only a handful of Americans ever defected, and as far as I am aware all the others had been in the Navy. Most of the defectors had actually been spies, that had either been caught or were on the verge of being caught when they defected.

Now they just commit suicide right ?

 

[Mushroom]

Lol.

Let’s do a little thought experiment. You’ve just blown off the head of a US President in broad daylight, and a cop finds you magically in the lunchroom several floors below your snipers nest casually drinking a coke, just minutes after you committed the crime. You don’t bother to immediately leave the scene. You actually get in line to take the city bus. You go back to your home and grab your handgun, which somehow you forgot to take when you left that morning to kill the President. Instead of having preset plans to escape the city, you go to the theater to watch a movie on the day you committed the crime of the century.

Makes sense to Allen Dulles’ grandson, but not many others.

And once again, you are simply making things up as you go along. Get in line to take a bus? How many do you think were trying to get on the bus?

And as far as I am aware, nobody has said that he picked up his gun at his apartment. Once again, you are making something up. I said and the record said he picked up a coat. However, considering he went to work that day in only a shirt and carrying "curtain rods", he likely did not bring the pistol as he would have no way to carry it unseen. And he already had a gun with him at the time.

And he was probably leaving the city, until he shot the cop. Only then did he run into the theater. But certainly criminals never run into places like theaters and malls after doing a crime, in the hopes they can get lost in the crowd. Nope, things like that never happen. And they have every detail planned out precisely.

"After I leave my apartment, I will walk here. That is where I shoot the cop, and will go into a theater because surely no cops will ever look for me in there."

You know, you really are not good at this "logic thing".

 

[Soupnazi630]

Every time I get a head shot on a deer from 265 feet away, his head flops backward towards me....it's weird . Sort of defies physics.

You never shot one.

Kennedy's head jerked forward from the bullet BEFORE moving backwards.

This is what is known as evidence boy.

Try and post some evidence rather than bullshit