Jews Vs. the world

[Indofred]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

 

[Indeependent]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

 

[aris2chat]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

years 1 on which calendar?
you need a history lesson, try the library. There is a long list of arab persecution and pogroms against jews throughout the muslim world. Every country on the modern maps had it's time and excuses against jewish communities.

 

[Indofred]

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

I wonder if that's the reason.
Arrogance is a *****.

 

[westwall]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

Actually, ALL religions existed peaceably under the Mongols. Maybe it takes an enlightened individual to make that happen.

 

[SAYIT]

The first Jewish Holocaust, dear Indeependent, was carried out by Muslims, not Nazis.

It's not them who should cry out "Remember Khibar, you Jews". This cry should be made by us. We should remember Khaibar, and know that it's only the tip of the iceberg, if what the Palestinians would have done to us, given the tiniest moment of weakness.

I think you're supposed to provide links and details to your claims.

Why? You provided none regarding your claim of a pre-1945 "mass illegal immigration into Palestine?" See how that works?

 

[SAYIT]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?

So you didn't like how this was going and decided to change the subject, eh? Your insincerity is obvious.

 

[SAYIT]

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

That's not how I read the Torah.

 

[SAYIT]

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

I wonder if that's the reason.
Arrogance is a *****.

Every bigoted a-hole has thousands of reasons for their hate. You are far more common than you like to believe.

 

[SAYIT]

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

Actually, ALL religions existed peaceably under the Mongols. Maybe it takes an enlightened individual to make that happen.

You won't find enlightened in a knuckle-dragger like Indo.

 

[aris2chat]

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

That's not how I read the Torah.

sarcasm I hope or someone really does not understand the torah

 

[I.P.Freely]

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

That's not how I read the Torah.

A bit ambiguous [MENTION=35716]SAYIT[/MENTION] , would you care to extrapolate?

 

[Billo_Really]

The massacre of 1921, the bloodbath of 1929, the Arab uprising in 1936.

Just, the first things that poped up to mind..

So you can't come up with anything that pre-dates the Zionist migration?

 

[Phoenall]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Lets see how about the civil unrest that resulted in the deaths of many Jews between 1931 and 1935. Then there was the Hebron massacre in 1929 when many Jews were murdered by muslims because of a LIE. Not forgetting the muslims guards in the death camps of Eastern Europe enlisted by the grand mufti of Jerusalem that led to thousands of deaths. If you like we can start at the very beginning and go back to 632 C.E. when Mohamed started the problem by wiping out the adult population of the Jewish tribe in Medina when they refused to worship him as God. Since that time it has been a religious command to all muslisms "KILL THE JEWS"

So as you see nothing to do with Zionism and all to do with islam, and can you produce a link that shows the Jewish migration to Palestine was illegal when the legal owners of the land invited them to migrate ?

 

[I.P.Freely]

The UK is and was very anti-Semitic,my family fought against Moseley on the cobbles. BBC - Religions - Judaism: York pogrom, 1190 the fascists.
Wales is probably still the most anti-Semitic country in the union because of their "chapel mentality".

Hopefully our next PM will be the Jewish atheist Ed Miliband,

 

[Phoenall]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Are you referring to the days of Mohamed when he was slaughtering Jews left and right for not converting or to the Roman Empire where the Muslims were slaughtering non-Jews left and right?
Please be precise.

I am precise. I'm asking what percentage of anti Jewish problems there were from Muslims, compared with the rest of the world, pre 1945.
I believe there were almost no problems between Jews and Muslims that led to death, compared with Jews being slaughtered by Christians, or other groups.

Then you have not read your own history and seen the way Jews were treated in the M.E. by the muslims. Since 632 C.E. the muslims have slaughtered the Jews for such things as letting their shadow fall on a mosque or having a good looking daughter.

 

[Phoenall]

So many answers, all ignoring the question.

Attacks by Muslims Vs. attacks by the rest of the world against Jews before 1945
How do the two compare?

More attacks by muslims, more mass murders by muslims and more genocides by muslims all over the world than by any other group. Even the Spanish Inquisition only saw 1100 deaths and that was aimed at the Jews from the very beginning. Plenty of evictions and deportations from countries but very little in the way of actual violence towards the Jews. If the muslims had not been on a murderfest for the past 1400 years the Jewish population would be 100 times what it is today

 

[Phoenall]

As a matter of interest, what major problems were there between Jews and Muslims before 1945 mass illegal immigration into Palestine and creation of Israel, compared to problems between Jews and the rest of the world?

Any ideas?

Legal immigration encouraged by the Ottoman and it was the mufti that spread lies and incited the violence against the jews back in the 20's

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You wish................ The problem all stems from the mental illness of one Mohamed who heard voices and saw visions due to his frontal lobe epilepsy. This gave him delusions and he thought he was a god. When the tribe at Medina refused to fall down and worship him as god he told his followers to wipe them out, but keeping the girls as sex slaves. His followers were instructed to check them for pubic hair and any that had it were killed. From that day on it was a religious command from Mohamed that muslims were to "KILL THE JEWS".
They Jews may have been rejected by other nations, but they were not put to the sword as they were by the muslims. When a Jew made the land fertile a muslim would come along and kill him and his family, then take his daughters as sex slaves and his fertile land. Within a few short years the land would again be barren and the muslim would move on. That was the life for the Jews pre 1945, eviction and deportation by Christian countries. Murder and violence by muslims

 

[Phoenall]

So how about year 1 to year 1945?
Were the Arabs attacking the Jews, or were the Jews to busy being attacked by other people to have time to be attacked by Arabs?

When you look at Jewish history, they have NEVER lived anywhere where they weren't rejected by everyone else.

Perhaps the problem may well be outside of Islam.

You may try reading some Torah once in a while.
Nobody can stand us because we're on a much higher societal level.
We weren't meant to integrate beyond a certain point.

I wonder if that's the reason.
Arrogance is a *****.

It is not arrogance but cold hard facts, the muslims are still living as they did in the 7C and still stealing other peoples inventions

 

[Lipush]

The massacre of 1921, the bloodbath of 1929, the Arab uprising in 1936.

Just, the first things that poped up to mind..

So you can't come up with anything that pre-dates the Zionist migration?

I was asked to bring things pre-1945.

You want me to take you to the times of Jane Eyre?