Jews made the desert bloom in “Palestine”

[MartyNYC]

Prior to Israeli statehood, the area under Ottoman Turkish control, and populated by Arabs, was a primitive, malaria-infested wasteland, lacking electricity, schools, and hospitals. Arabs lived in mud huts. Entire Arab villages made of mud. Jews developed hydroelectricity using the Jordan River, built the first schools, including Arab schools, built the first hospital, Hadassah Medical Center, introduced advanced agricultural techniques, and made the desert bloom…

 

[TheParser]

Regardless of one's feelings about Israel today, one has to admit that the Jewish refugees from Europe did make the desert bloom.

And new cities arose from the desert.

 

[Lisa558]

Jews - as a group - are intelligent, industrious, and motivated. Israel is an advanced country.

 

[TheParser]

Jews - as a group - are intelligent, industrious, and motivated. Israel is an advanced country.

And Jewish medical researchers in pre-World War II Europe and in Israel itself have been responsible for many medical advances that have eased the suffering of human beings.

 

[DudleySmith]

The British financed much of it in the late 1850's and early pre-ww I era; they wanted a source of fruits and other ag products closer to home. It wasn't 'all Jews all the time'. Most of the Russian Aliyahs were poor people, not Rothschildes and Warburgs. Much of the 'Agricultural Revolution' gains came from the Dutch, English, and Spaniards between the 1500's and 20th Century, not to mention the Christian monasteries.

19th Century, after the Civil War with Egypt ended ...

Alexander Schölch’s “European Penetration and the Economic Development of Palestine, 1856-1882,” makes a number of interesting points. Foremost among them is Palestine’s remarkable economic upswing prior to the beginning of substantial European colonization in 1882. Palestine’s agricultural production and import-export trade activity grew, as did its towns and urban production. Much of this growth was a response to increasing European interest in the country. But European demand is not the full explanation, since internal Ottoman markets (including Egypt) also stimulated production of Palestinian agricultural and manufactured goods. Schölch calculates that Palestine had a trade surplus in most of the 1856-1882 period, counting foreign and intra-Ottoman trade together.


Palestine was being integrated into the world economy in these years. For instance, cotton production greatly expanded in the late 1850s and early 1860s when cotton prices rose and supplies to Europe from North America were interrupted by the US civil war. Two structural changes which this integration brought about were the creation of a commercial bourgeoisie linked to trade with Europe, and the creation of large areas of landed property. The coastal regions, including the country’s ports and much of its best land, were most affected by these developments. But Schölch argues that the Palestinian economy was not peripheralized in the period up to 1882. The basic structures of Palestinian economic life did not change, as artisanal crafts continued to flourish and agriculture remained diverse and flexible.


Schölch marshals data from published and archival sources, including German and Austrian diplomatic archives. His clear presentation and careful analysis of this information are commendable. “European Penetration” is a good example of the kind of basic research which needs to be done in the field of nineteenth-century Middle East economic history.

Owen, Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine - MERIP

Roger Owen, ed., Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine in the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries (Carbondale, IL: Southern Illinois University Press, 1982).

merip.org

The first 'Aliyahs', from Russia, had an European export market to sell to.

 

[Lisa558]

i realize SOME people are reluctant to give Jews credit for anything, but the fact is that Jews have made the world better wherever they live - and not just Israel. They are, for example, a disproportionate number of Nobel Prize holders for their medical and scientific advances.

 

[surada]

Prior to Israeli statehood, the area under Ottoman Turkish control, and populated by Arabs, was a primitive, malaria-infested wasteland, lacking electricity, schools, and hospitals. Arabs lived in mud huts. Entire Arab villages made of mud. Jews developed hydroelectricity using the Jordan River, built the first schools, including Arab schools, built the first hospital, Hadassah Medical Center, introduced advanced agricultural techniques, and made the desert bloom…

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You should probably read Hydrology of the Jordan Basin.

 

[MartyNYC]

The British financed much of it in the late 1850's and early pre-ww I era; they wanted a source of fruits and other ag products closer to home. It wasn't 'all Jews all the time'. Most of the Russian Aliyahs were poor people, not Rothschildes and Warburgs. Much of the 'Agricultural Revolution' gains came from the Dutch, English, and Spaniards between the 1500's and 20th Century, not to mention the Christian monasteries.

19th Century, after the Civil War with Egypt ended ...

Alexander Schölch’s “European Penetration and the Economic Development of Palestine, 1856-1882,” makes a number of interesting points. Foremost among them is Palestine’s remarkable economic upswing prior to the beginning of substantial European colonization in 1882. Palestine’s agricultural production and import-export trade activity grew, as did its towns and urban production. Much of this growth was a response to increasing European interest in the country. But European demand is not the full explanation, since internal Ottoman markets (including Egypt) also stimulated production of Palestinian agricultural and manufactured goods. Schölch calculates that Palestine had a trade surplus in most of the 1856-1882 period, counting foreign and intra-Ottoman trade together.


Palestine was being integrated into the world economy in these years. For instance, cotton production greatly expanded in the late 1850s and early 1860s when cotton prices rose and supplies to Europe from North America were interrupted by the US civil war. Two structural changes which this integration brought about were the creation of a commercial bourgeoisie linked to trade with Europe, and the creation of large areas of landed property. The coastal regions, including the country’s ports and much of its best land, were most affected by these developments. But Schölch argues that the Palestinian economy was not peripheralized in the period up to 1882. The basic structures of Palestinian economic life did not change, as artisanal crafts continued to flourish and agriculture remained diverse and flexible.


Schölch marshals data from published and archival sources, including German and Austrian diplomatic archives. His clear presentation and careful analysis of this information are commendable. “European Penetration” is a good example of the kind of basic research which needs to be done in the field of nineteenth-century Middle East economic history.

Owen, Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine - MERIP

Roger Owen, ed., Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine in the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries (Carbondale, IL: Southern Illinois University Press, 1982).

merip.org

The first 'Aliyahs', from Russia, had an European export market to sell to.

Regardless of one's feelings about Israel today, one has to admit that the Jewish refugees from Europe did make the desert bloom.

And new cities arose from the desert.

The British financed much of it in the late 1850's and early pre-ww I era; they wanted a source of fruits and other ag products closer to home. It wasn't 'all Jews all the time'. Most of the Russian Aliyahs were poor people, not Rothschildes and Warburgs. Much of the 'Agricultural Revolution' gains came from the Dutch, English, and Spaniards between the 1500's and 20th Century, not to mention the Christian monasteries.

19th Century, after the Civil War with Egypt ended ...

Alexander Schölch’s “European Penetration and the Economic Development of Palestine, 1856-1882,” makes a number of interesting points. Foremost among them is Palestine’s remarkable economic upswing prior to the beginning of substantial European colonization in 1882. Palestine’s agricultural production and import-export trade activity grew, as did its towns and urban production. Much of this growth was a response to increasing European interest in the country. But European demand is not the full explanation, since internal Ottoman markets (including Egypt) also stimulated production of Palestinian agricultural and manufactured goods. Schölch calculates that Palestine had a trade surplus in most of the 1856-1882 period, counting foreign and intra-Ottoman trade together.


Palestine was being integrated into the world economy in these years. For instance, cotton production greatly expanded in the late 1850s and early 1860s when cotton prices rose and supplies to Europe from North America were interrupted by the US civil war. Two structural changes which this integration brought about were the creation of a commercial bourgeoisie linked to trade with Europe, and the creation of large areas of landed property. The coastal regions, including the country’s ports and much of its best land, were most affected by these developments. But Schölch argues that the Palestinian economy was not peripheralized in the period up to 1882. The basic structures of Palestinian economic life did not change, as artisanal crafts continued to flourish and agriculture remained diverse and flexible.


Schölch marshals data from published and archival sources, including German and Austrian diplomatic archives. His clear presentation and careful analysis of this information are commendable. “European Penetration” is a good example of the kind of basic research which needs to be done in the field of nineteenth-century Middle East economic history.

Owen, Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine - MERIP

Roger Owen, ed., Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine in the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries (Carbondale, IL: Southern Illinois University Press, 1982).

merip.org

The first 'Aliyahs', from Russia, had an European export market to sell to.

Arab commentator: Israel has made miracles happen out of the impossible, becoming an advanced country, as the Arab world is mired in failure

Syrian Journalist Thaer Al-Nashef: Israel Does Not Groom Arab Dictators; Arab Societies Are Responsible for Their Own Fate

 

[surada]

i realize SOME people are reluctant to give Jews credit for anything, but the fact is that Jews have made the world better wherever they live - and not just Israel. They are, for example, a disproportionate number of Nobel Prize holders for their medical and scientific advances.

Look at the situation with the water table, the Jordan river, the coastal aquifer and the Dead Sea.

 

[MJB12741]

And as soon as Israel turned a near wasteland into a thriving metropolis here came hoards of Palestinians claiming it's their land.

 

[jehanne1431]

Prior to Israeli statehood, the area under Ottoman Turkish control, and populated by Arabs, was a primitive, malaria-infested wasteland, lacking electricity, schools, and hospitals. Arabs lived in mud huts. Entire Arab villages made of mud. Jews developed hydroelectricity using the Jordan River, built the first schools, including Arab schools, built the first hospital, Hadassah Medical Center, introduced advanced agricultural techniques, and made the desert bloom…

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"The Arabs would have sat in the dark forever had not the Zionist engineers harnessed the Jordan river for electrification. Now they swarm into Palestine in seeking the light."-- Winston Churchill, 1922 "A Peace to End All Peace"

 

[MartyNYC]

The British financed much of it in the late 1850's and early pre-ww I era; they wanted a source of fruits and other ag products closer to home. It wasn't 'all Jews all the time'. Most of the Russian Aliyahs were poor people, not Rothschildes and Warburgs. Much of the 'Agricultural Revolution' gains came from the Dutch, English, and Spaniards between the 1500's and 20th Century, not to mention the Christian monasteries.

19th Century, after the Civil War with Egypt ended ...

Alexander Schölch’s “European Penetration and the Economic Development of Palestine, 1856-1882,” makes a number of interesting points. Foremost among them is Palestine’s remarkable economic upswing prior to the beginning of substantial European colonization in 1882. Palestine’s agricultural production and import-export trade activity grew, as did its towns and urban production. Much of this growth was a response to increasing European interest in the country. But European demand is not the full explanation, since internal Ottoman markets (including Egypt) also stimulated production of Palestinian agricultural and manufactured goods. Schölch calculates that Palestine had a trade surplus in most of the 1856-1882 period, counting foreign and intra-Ottoman trade together.


Palestine was being integrated into the world economy in these years. For instance, cotton production greatly expanded in the late 1850s and early 1860s when cotton prices rose and supplies to Europe from North America were interrupted by the US civil war. Two structural changes which this integration brought about were the creation of a commercial bourgeoisie linked to trade with Europe, and the creation of large areas of landed property. The coastal regions, including the country’s ports and much of its best land, were most affected by these developments. But Schölch argues that the Palestinian economy was not peripheralized in the period up to 1882. The basic structures of Palestinian economic life did not change, as artisanal crafts continued to flourish and agriculture remained diverse and flexible.


Schölch marshals data from published and archival sources, including German and Austrian diplomatic archives. His clear presentation and careful analysis of this information are commendable. “European Penetration” is a good example of the kind of basic research which needs to be done in the field of nineteenth-century Middle East economic history.

Owen, Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine - MERIP

Roger Owen, ed., Studies in the Economic and Social History of Palestine in the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries (Carbondale, IL: Southern Illinois University Press, 1982).

merip.org

The first 'Aliyahs', from Russia, had an European export market to sell to.

Look at the situation with the water table, the Jordan river, the coastal aquifer and the Dead Sea.

Jews to the rescue

 

[surada]

And as soon as Israel turned a near wasteland into a thriving metropolis here came hoards of Palestinians claiming it's their land.

That's another silly lie. Look at the Ottoman census of 1878.

 

[DudleySmith]

i realize SOME people are reluctant to give Jews credit for anything, but the fact is that Jews have made the world better wherever they live - and not just Israel. They are, for example, a disproportionate number of Nobel Prize holders for their medical and scientific advances.

As opposed to racist Jews who try and claim credit for everything? Like a 'Master Race' sort of thing? As if nobody else ever had anything to do with it?

 

[MartyNYC]

That's another silly lie. Look at the Ottoman census of 1878.

Winston Churchill, 1939: “So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.”

 

[Lisa558]

As opposed to racist Jews who try and claim credit for everything? Like a 'Master Race' sort of thing? As if nobody else ever had anything to do with it?

Jews don’t claim credit for everything! But only an antisemite would be unwilling to acknowledge that they have contributed far in excess of their numbers.

 

[surada]

Winston Churchill, 1939: “So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.”

I'm sure that's what Churchill believed . Remember, he called them wogs and coolies. He and Arthur Harris bombed the Iraqis and Kurds with poison gas in 1920.

 

[Lisa558]

Sad how a thread giving Jews some credit attracts anti-semites trying to take it away.

 

[DudleySmith]

That's another silly lie. Look at the Ottoman census of 1878.

There were some 300,000 Arabs there at the time, but most were not paying taxes and were dodging the Ottomans drafts. That's why the Otttomans solicited British investment and encouraged Russian Jews to immigrate, to build up the local economy and establish a tax base. Most of the Arabs hid out in the hills. Jews bought up swampland and other lands and relied on outside investment momey to develop the region. Nobody in their right minds would loan transient Arabs that kind of money. It must also be pointed out that the wealthy German Jewish bankers were not Zionists, and neither were many Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jews.



FELIX WARBURG AND THE IMPACT OF NON-ZIONISTS ON
THE HEBREW UNIVERSITY: 1923-1933
BY
Jeffrey Lawrence Levin


This thesis gives a decent overview of the history of Zionist versus Non-Zionist Jews and views of Palestine; don't have a link to any free pdfs of it, but maybe there is a free one somewhere, but I can't find it. My copy comes from a JSTOR subscription.

 

[DudleySmith]

Sad how a thread giving Jews some credit attracts anti-semites trying to take it away.

Sad how racist bigots try and claim Jews did everything all by themselves, and the Evul Xians are all antisemites n stuff.