Zone1 Jew Hatred - I don't get it.

[hobelim]

So Christians should convert to Judaism to save their eternal soul?

No, its much easier than that!

Just stop being an asshole.

 

[Lisa558]

You weren't "defending your beliefs."

You were slandering Christianity, which I have seen many Jews on this site do. Just as both Christians and Jews to do Muslims.

This is not the act of one who is submissive to the divine. It is behavior of hateful bigots.

Folks want to know why some in the population have a dim views of Judaism, Christianity or Islam?



For normal folks? It because their practitioners attack others based only on their beliefs.

It is no mystery to me where the antisemitism, anti-christian and Islamophobic behavior come from. It comes as a reaction to Zionist arrogance, Christian arrogance, and radical Islamic attitudes toward those who do not share their beliefs and culture.

Your post to me just now? That's a perfect example.

If I were not as educated and empathetic, I might assume all Jews are as bigoted as you. But I know better. Your repulsive, hateful behavior is on you and you alone, it is not representative of all those who practice Judaism.





I suppose that makes you a heathen in the eyes of the creator, deserving of all that hate that gets thrown your way, huh?



That's garbage, and you know it.

You hate all Christians, and have the belief that those who practice it, quote it or explain their PoV on it, are an insult to you and the creator.

You just told me so.

And again, we have disgusting antisemites smearing Jews left and right, and you just let them go on with their anti-Jew propaganda without saying a word. But let a Jew push back against disrepectful Christians quoting the NT to her - knowing how insulting that is - you have plenty of criticism.

 

[hobelim]

those arguing about dogmatic beliefs simply do not understand the "higher meanings" of their own faiths.

Seriously? Higher meaning of lowlifes defying the Divine commands? Whats that? Fleecing the gullible? Losing your sanity? Feeling "the soul bursting at the seams" as you die the death? whee!



How do you keep a straight face telling people they will live forever if they defy the law of God?

 

[Ace Nova]

Seriously? Higher meaning of lowlifes defying the Divine commands? Fleecing the gullible?

How do you keep a straight face telling people they will live forever if they defy the law of God?

Not everything is directed at you or whatever you seem to believe.

That was in response to Lisa's question on whether or not "other faiths" could have a path to God.

 

[hobelim]

Not everything is directed at you or whatever you seem to believe.

So. I still want to know.

How do you keep a straight face telling people they will live forever if they defy the law of God?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But let a Jew push back against disrepectful Christians quoting the NT to her - knowing how insulting that is

This is an AMERICAN messageboard. Overwhelmingly we are a culturally CHRISTIAN nation. It is absurd to think you won't be presented with Christian perspectives however the "Christian" will interpret the Scriptures.

 

[Lisa558]

This is an AMERICAN messageboard. Overwhelmingly we are a culturally CHRISTIAN nation. It is absurd to think you won't be presented with Christian perspectives however the "Christian" will interpret the Scriptures.

And by the same token, I am free to say Jews don’t believe those things - as they know - and continuing to quote New Testament verses to a Jew is rude and argumentative.

 

[MisterBeale]

And again, we have disgusting antisemites smearing Jews left and right, and you just let them go on with their anti-Jew propaganda without saying a word. But let a Jew push back against disrepectful Christians quoting the NT to her - knowing how insulting that is - you have plenty of criticism.

If you are insulted by world literature?

You have real problems.

You made an erroneous claim about Jesus and the Bible, I proved that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and now you are butt hurt.

 

[Ace Nova]

So. I still want to know.

Matthew 19:

Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Amen, I say to you, it will be difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were astonished, and they asked, “Who then can be saved?” 26 Jesus looked at them and said, “For men this is impossible, but for God all things are possible.”

 

[ding]

No, its much easier than that!

Just stop being an asshole.

So as long as I convert to Judaism I can still be an asshole?

 

[irosie91]

And by the same token, I am free to say Jews don’t believe those things - as they know - and continuing to quote New Testament verses to a Jew is rude and argumentative.

carl----is it rude to point out the verses in the NT have nothing to do with the
person JESUS? I read the NT before I read the OT because I grew up in a very christian town and copies of the NT were ALL OVER the place----I was an ardent "reader"----with not so much available to read. Over time I read more. I have NO HISTORY IN CHILDHOOD OF JEWISH EDUCATION.----I just read here and there about anything----RANDOM. I learned that the NT has nothing to do with the person Jesus who was a Pharisee jew during the Roman empire which controlled the land that they called "JUDEA" and later on
PALESTINA. I learned by the ARISTOLEAN method---logic. The NT is the
----to use ancient phrases --- THE APOLOGIA OF CONSTANTINE

 

[Lisa558]

If you are insulted by world literature?

You have real problems.

You made an erroneous claim about Jesus and the Bible, I proved that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and now you are butt hurt.

What erroneous claim? Are Jews not allowed to state their beliefs? Christians can just keep quoting New Testament verses to Jews? It’s rude, at a minimum.

 

[ding]

This is an AMERICAN messageboard. Overwhelmingly we are a culturally CHRISTIAN nation. It is absurd to think you won't be presented with Christian perspectives however the "Christian" will interpret the Scriptures.

This isn't that complicated. She is saying she doesn't appreciate being evangelized by Christians no matter how well intentioned they are because it comes off as insulting her faith. I can totally relate because I am experiencing the same thing from the Jewish direction except that guy is not well intentioned. He's a condescending asshole that makes sport out of insulting Christians.

 

[Lisa558]

carl----is it rude to point out the verses in the NT have nothing to do with the
person JESUS? I read the NT before I read the OT because I grew up in a very christian town and copies of the NT were ALL OVER the place----I was an ardent "reader"----with not so much available to read. Over time I read more. I have NO HISTORY IN CHILDHOOD OF JEWISH EDUCATION.----I just read here and there about anything----RANDOM. I learned that the NT has nothing to do with the person Jesus who was a Pharisee jew during the Roman empire which controlled the land that they called "JUDEA" and later on
PALESTINA. I learned by the ARISTOLEAN method---logic. The NT is the
----to use ancient phrases --- THE APOLOGIA OF CONSTANTINE

Carl seems to think it is perfectly acceptable to quote New Testament verses to Jews, and Jews have to be quiet and listen.

Their way or the highway.

 

[Lisa558]

This isn't that complicated. She is saying she doesn't appreciate being evangelized by Christians no matter how well intentioned they are because it comes off as insulting her faith. I can totally relate because I am experiencing the same thing from the Jewish direction except that guy is not well intentioned. He's a condescending asshole that makes sport out of insulting Christians.

And I’m not sure what the evangelist was implying about this being an American message board. I’m an American, and a Jew.

Thanks for your support.

 

[BreezeWood]

I have come not to abolish but to fulfill them."

the very opposite of the 1st century events ...

ace must think their response was in approval.

or rather for what surly was never spoken and the heavenly reason they gave their life for liberation theology, self determination - than the desert dwellers religions of servitude and denial.

 

[ding]

And I’m not sure what the evangelist was implying about this being an American message board. I’m an American, and a Jew.

Thanks for your support.

I think he is saying that since Christianity is the dominant religion of the land you should expect it. With that being said, once informed that it is unwanted, a good Christian should be understanding and comply with the request. I would expect nothing different from a good person of the Jewish faith.

 

[MisterBeale]

What erroneous claim?

This one;

Nah….no real proof that he said that

Even ding pointed it out. . . you don't know what is there, and when I showed you, you became an unhinged leftist.

There's tons of evidence; 24,000 written manuscripts, behaviors of early Christians and apostles, etc.

(You know, that is what authoritarians do, suppress and try to slander the evidence when they are wrong.)

Are Jews not allowed to state their beliefs?

About their religion, sure.


However, they DO NOT have the authority to speak on what is in the New Testament, especially when they admit they have neither read it, nor want to see it quoted to them.

Christians can just keep quoting New Testament verses to Jews? It’s rude, at a minimum.

 

[ding]

the very opposite of the 1st century events ...

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ace must think their response was in approval.

or rather for what surly was never spoken and the heavenly reason they gave their life for liberation theology, self determination - than the desert dwellers religions of servitude and denial.

So your logical conclusion is to abandon all religions? Or is there a religion you find acceptable?

 

[Woodznutz]

Being Texan, I've met very few Jews in my life. The few I have met were just in passing, so it's not like I could get presumptuous and ask them personal questions about Jews.

I've read books, I've seen documentaries, etc...............

Most of it stems from the Hitler era, and I understand why Adolph Hitler hated Jews. BUT.......WHY is there hatred NOW?

Is it as simple as progressive hatred from the Nazi era? Or is it something else completely?

I really don't understand this particular kind of hate. But I would like to understand.

WHY such wide stemming hatred against Jews?



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You live in the Bible Belt, read yer Bible.