Jesus was not a Jew

[eflatminor]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

 

[guno]

Not only was He a Jew, He was a rabbi who taught in the Temple, kept Jewish law, and died for the Jews who did not recognize the hour of their visitation. When He returns it will be in Israel, not Dublin, to prevent Abraham's legacy from being annihilated. His mother was a Jew. Her mother was a Jew. Jesus was a Jew.

He was a rabbi

oy vey goim

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Alex... Jesus was Jewish!

( Pretending you were asking a Jeopardy question )

 

[guno]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

There are two extensive geneologies that obliterate your argument. Please go away.

Actually the NT places the character through all the harlots of the Bible (once again why it's called the Harlot church).
One of those harlots was a Canaanite woman (non Jew).
=epic failed argument.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

Yup. God used Gentile women in the geneology of Yeshua. Just another indication that He intended from the start to include the whole world in HIs plan of salvation and reconciliation.

Nope,
Rome used the OT to place the created character into, which is revealed in comical and embarassing mistakes like this.

Rome didn't do that. Judea wasn't that important to them.

The Church sprang from the Jewish community in Jerusalem. In fact, Rome bitterly opposed the Church for hundreds of years.

And in 325 CE jebus was named the son of god the christers changed the day of Sabbath and commenced eating pork and other unclean things and Jews said no thanks to paganism

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

So...what was he? Ethiopian?

Yiddish...

 

[hadit]

There are two extensive geneologies that obliterate your argument. Please go away.

Actually the NT places the character through all the harlots of the Bible (once again why it's called the Harlot church).
One of those harlots was a Canaanite woman (non Jew).
=epic failed argument.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

Yup. God used Gentile women in the geneology of Yeshua. Just another indication that He intended from the start to include the whole world in HIs plan of salvation and reconciliation.

Nope,
Rome used the OT to place the created character into, which is revealed in comical and embarassing mistakes like this.

Rome didn't do that. Judea wasn't that important to them.

The Church sprang from the Jewish community in Jerusalem. In fact, Rome bitterly opposed the Church for hundreds of years.

And in 325 CE jebus was named the son of god the christers changed the day of Sabbath and commenced eating pork and other unclean things and Jews said no thanks to paganism

The Church decided to not insist Gentile Christians follow the law within a few years of Yeshua's ascension.

 

[BreezeWood]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

then who are those they fought against and those that wrote their book in the 4th century ... which if not both are false religions.

 

[norwegen]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

Indeed, Judea was divided. A short period of independence after Greek control inspired in Jews a renewed hope that God would restore Israel to its former glory.

Subjugation to Rome dashed those hopes, and a cult of zealots emerged who tested Christ and ultimately caused the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus was an Essene Jew. The Zealots included scribes and Pharisees, and desecrated the priesthood when they murdered the high priest and seated one of their own (who was not descended from Aaron).

 

[HaShev]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

There are two extensive geneologies that obliterate your argument. Please go away.

Actually the NT places the character through all the harlots of the Bible (once again why it's called the Harlot church).
One of those harlots was a Canaanite woman (non Jew).
=epic failed argument.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

Yup. God used Gentile women in the geneology of Yeshua. Just another indication that He intended from the start to include the whole world in HIs plan of salvation and reconciliation.

Nope,
Rome used the OT to place the created character into, which is revealed in comical and embarassing mistakes like this.

Rome didn't do that. Judea wasn't that important to them.

The Church sprang from the Jewish community in Jerusalem. In fact, Rome bitterly opposed the Church for hundreds of years.

There were many revolts against Rome, so by hiding their political power(horn) behind the mask of religious power(2nd horn) the 2 horn system of the scarlet (red) color of Rome could use religion to collect taxes (tithes) and invade kingdoms.
This 2 horn scarlet beast was the symbol of the beast to get this point across, that Rome had 2 authorities (2 horns).

Research what Rome did to the Veiians & their godess Juno, it's the same power play they used to subvert the children of Israel.

Rome was famous for this method of attack and used it to swallow up other cultures.
They would slay the people then tell them their god no longer favored them as seen by their defeat, so from inside pretending they were now the real loyalists of that god they would erect a temple to this god in Rome to be the new authority of the subverted peoples god thus swallowing up the god and the followers.
They did this to the Veiians with godess Juno then to Israel whereby Christians say they are the new Israel and authority and Rome erected the imposter temple in Rome.
Swallow up the revolts, the temple, and their God and many messiah figures now under their total control and destroying all through that tactic.

 

[irosie91]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Sounds like Josephus. He preached the torah?

about whom are you asking "he preached the torah"?? penny dear-----Josephus
or Jesus?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He will, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

 

[Penelope]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Sounds like Josephus. He preached the torah?

about whom are you asking "he preached the torah"?? penny dear-----Josephus
or Jesus?

Maybe one of the same, Vespasian adopted Josephus . He sounded like he might be Paul as well, shipwreck scene.

 

[irosie91]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

Indeed, Judea was divided. A short period of independence after Greek control inspired in Jews a renewed hope that God would restore Israel to its former glory.

Subjugation to Rome dashed those hopes, and a cult of zealots emerged who tested Christ and ultimately caused the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus was an Essene Jew. The Zealots included scribes and Pharisees, and desecrated the priesthood when they murdered the high priest and seated one of their own (who was not descended from Aaron).

The Essenes were Zealots. I believe that most scholars have given up on the idea that Jesus was an Essene. John the Baptist might have been.

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He would, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

Irish-----you have rammed your head against a stone wall one time too many

 

[Penelope]

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He would, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

It was to be in the present generation. Must of been General Titus and his right hand man Tiberius Alexander. 70 AD was when Herods temple fell, and in 73 Masada standoff was ended.

 

[irosie91]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Sounds like Josephus. He preached the torah?

about whom are you asking "he preached the torah"?? penny dear-----Josephus
or Jesus?

Maybe one of the same, Vespasian adopted Josephus . He sounded like he might be Paul as well, shipwreck scene.

Josephus and Jesus are the same people?....and Paul too? what else have the voices told you?

 

[Penelope]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

Indeed, Judea was divided. A short period of independence after Greek control inspired in Jews a renewed hope that God would restore Israel to its former glory.

Subjugation to Rome dashed those hopes, and a cult of zealots emerged who tested Christ and ultimately caused the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus was an Essene Jew. The Zealots included scribes and Pharisees, and desecrated the priesthood when they murdered the high priest and seated one of their own (who was not descended from Aaron).

The Essenes were Zealots. I believe that most scholars have given up on the idea that Jesus
was an EsseneJ

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He would, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

Irish-----you have rammed your head against a stone wall one time too many

I also believe the Essenes were Zealots fighting against Rome, headquarters in Galilee. The Sacarii were the dagger men who fought and killed the pro Roman Jews near and in the Temple area. That is what I believe from my reading.

 

[Penelope]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Sounds like Josephus. He preached the torah?

about whom are you asking "he preached the torah"?? penny dear-----Josephus
or Jesus?

Maybe one of the same, Vespasian adopted Josephus . He sounded like he might be Paul as well, shipwreck scene.

Josephus and Jesus are the same people?....and Paul too? what else have the voices told you?

Obvious if you read Josephus as an adopted son of God(Vespasian). Titus was also the son of God and then he became part of the Godhead.

 

[irosie91]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

Indeed, Judea was divided. A short period of independence after Greek control inspired in Jews a renewed hope that God would restore Israel to its former glory.

Subjugation to Rome dashed those hopes, and a cult of zealots emerged who tested Christ and ultimately caused the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus was an Essene Jew. The Zealots included scribes and Pharisees, and desecrated the priesthood when they murdered the high priest and seated one of their own (who was not descended from Aaron).

The Essenes were Zealots. I believe that most scholars have given up on the idea that Jesus
was an EsseneJ

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He would, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

Irish-----you have rammed your head against a stone wall one time too many

I also believe the Essenes were Zealots fighting against Rome, headquarters in Galilee. The Sacarii were the dagger men who fought and killed the pro Roman Jews near and in the Temple area. That is what I believe from my reading.

it is not at all clear to me that the ESSENES were FIGHTING actively in their HEYDAY-----they were
MONASTIC PEOPLE------waiting ........ The Sacarii were an unrelated group------not monastic

 

[irosie91]

circumcised, bar mitzvahed, debated with temple scholars, preached the torah, as rabbi taught others, observed passover

Sounds like Josephus. He preached the torah?

about whom are you asking "he preached the torah"?? penny dear-----Josephus
or Jesus?

Maybe one of the same, Vespasian adopted Josephus . He sounded like he might be Paul as well, shipwreck scene.

Josephus and Jesus are the same people?....and Paul too? what else have the voices told you?

Obvious if you read Josephus as an adopted son of God(Vespasian). Titus was also the son of God and then he became part of the Godhead.

did you learn to read in the same school in which you learned English grammar?

 

[Penelope]

The idea that Jesus was a Jew is a big lie.

Jesus, in fact, fought the Jews and was crucified for it.

You're suggesting one cannot be part of a group and fight against that same group? That's your argument for why Jesus couldn't be a Jew?

You didn't really think that one through, did ya?

Jesus was a Rabbi, a radical one to be sure, but you can't be a Rabbi without being a Jew.

Indeed, Judea was divided. A short period of independence after Greek control inspired in Jews a renewed hope that God would restore Israel to its former glory.

Subjugation to Rome dashed those hopes, and a cult of zealots emerged who tested Christ and ultimately caused the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus was an Essene Jew. The Zealots included scribes and Pharisees, and desecrated the priesthood when they murdered the high priest and seated one of their own (who was not descended from Aaron).

The Essenes were Zealots. I believe that most scholars have given up on the idea that Jesus
was an EsseneJ

Jesus Christ was a Jew. And it is understandable that the Jews don't want to admit their role in the death of God's Son. Or the death of God's prophets, or asking God to remove Himself from their Temple.
Christ is going to return to you. And this time you'll know who He is. And you will cry bitter tears when you see how horribably scarred he is. He will wipe your tears, and never leave you this time.

And you had better hope that I am right about this because the whole World is about to turn against you. If Christ, the Lion of Judah, doesn't return when He said He would, there won't be a Jew or any other life left on this earth..

Irish-----you have rammed your head against a stone wall one time too many

I also believe the Essenes were Zealots fighting against Rome, headquarters in Galilee. The Sacarii were the dagger men who fought and killed the pro Roman Jews near and in the Temple area. That is what I believe from my reading.

it is not at all clear to me that the ESSENES were FIGHTING actively in their HEYDAY-----they were
MONASTIC PEOPLE------waiting ........ The Sacarii were an unrelated group------not monastic

They fought Romans. Zealots.