Jefferson + Genesis= Equality

[LordBrownTrout]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

Without the Bible and religion -- where do ya think the DISCIPLINE for having morals will come from? Would you get up early on Sunday and dress like a respectful human and MAKE yourself listen to 2 hours about "doing good"???

Hush up son.. We all know how Hollywood became the cesspool that it is today..

Other societies had their versions of morals and rules where do you think the Jews copied them from? And according to da jew the sabbath is Friday night till Saturday night.If yer doin' on Sunday yer way off...

Thats the old law/old testament. That is no more.

Actually, I have a good pal who is a Seventh Day Adventist, and she celebrates the sabbath on Saturday.

And this, from NOQ:

“Why I take the sabbath off even though I’m not a 7th Day Adventist or Hebrew Roots guy

I’m just a Bible-believing Christian. I don’t adhere to any particular denomination. I don’t go to a traditional church. My wife and I do Bible study, listen to a wide variety of sermons and Bible teachers, and we keep the sabbath. But we’re not Seventh Day Adventists nor part of the Hebrew Roots movement. Both have some good teachings. Both have some that we consider to be heretical.

We’re just Christians, and as such we believe in the validity of the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Part of this belief centers on a truth that the Ten Commandments are eternal, including the commandment regarding the sabbath day. From the Book of Exodus:

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

This is clear. It is absolutely unambiguous. There is no room for interpretation, no need for extensive exegesis."
Why I take the sabbath off even though I’m not a 7th Day Adventist or Hebrew Roots guy




There are a number of variations, but one religion....the Judeo-Christian.

Yeah, it really doesn't matter what day it is.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality

Much of the 10 a commandments are not suitable for governing.

Should government force you to worship?

No, you cant force someone to worship. Thats inane. But, you cant have a lawless society because there will nothing to govern.

 

[flacaltenn]

Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality

Much of the 10 a commandments are not suitable for governing.

Should government force you to worship?

Much of the 10 Commandments have nothing to do with governing... Neither does Hammurabi and his Babylonia code of law.. BUT -- both Moses and Hammurabi are on the adornments of our Supreme Court. As a tribute to the PROGRESS that "the law" has made.. Because before then - like Facebook today -- the "rules" were not written out, weren't consistent and purposely obtuse to allow tyranny in enforcing them.. Yes Zuckerburg -- I called you out... LOL...

Govt CANT force you to worship... Maybe eat broccoli, but not go to services.. Nobody can really FORCE you to be moral either. It's how you get punished or punish yourself for not having the discipline of INTERNALIZING morality... And "democratic" countries suffer when morality declines. So I got no beef whatsoever with people of faith..

 

[Bezukhov]

Jefferson + Genesis still resulted in slavery

But then again, the Bible condones slavery

Of course the Bibble condones slavery! Seeing people beaten, whipped and forced to toil in the fields gave Him a hard on from here to Uranus.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jefferson + Genesis still resulted in slavery

But then again, the Bible condones slavery

Of course the Bibble condones slavery! Seeing people beaten, whipped and forced to toil in the fields gave Him a hard on from here to Uranus.

1. Every day we find another dunce like this, a grad of indoctrination school, sent out in the world to spread the propagnda.

He has never read the Bible.

Let's prove it.

"Of course the Bibble (sic) condones slavery! Seeing people beaten, whipped and forced to toil in the fields."

That, of course, is the Democrat version of slavery, and proof that the Democrats server a very different master.



2. Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.
The aspects that identify what we call 'slavery' today, the colloquial meaning, are the following:

a. permanence of bondage

b. treatment as material assets

c. control of the life and death of the slave: the slave could be beaten to death

d. an escaped slave had to be returned to his master….as decreed in the Dred Scott Democrat Supreme Court decision.
This is Democrat slavery.


3. None of the above are allowed to the 'slave owner' by the Bible.


"The Bible uses the Hebrew term eved (עבד) and Greek doulos (δοῦλος) to refer to slaves. Eved has a much wider meaning than the English term slave, and in many circumstances it is more accurately translated into English as servant or hired worker."
Christian views on slavery - Wikipedia


e,g, "God spoke face-to-face with Moses but Joshua will be instructed by Eleazar; Moses was the servant of God but Joshua is Moses’s minister (Joshua 1.1)." https://uwaterloo.ca/grebel/sites/ca.grebel/files/uploads/files/CGR-22-1-W2004-1_1.pdf


"If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything."
Exodus 21:2


So….if the Bible is your excuse for the imposition of slavery….the argument fails at the briefest perusal of the text.


4. But….how about simply defining black slaves as 'foreign'?

"While foreign slaves could be made slaves for life,…"


The treatment of blacks in the South doesn't seem to have conformed to this:

"….the laws regarding the general treatment of slaves applied to them as well (Lev 24:22, Num 15:15-16). The law made it clear that foreigners were not inferiors who could be mistreated (Ex 23:9); instead they were to be loved just as fellow Israelites were (Lev 19:33-34). " Slavery in the OT


If the Bible is used as the excuse used for slavery, then all of the restrictions need be followed.
They weren't.
It isn't.
It is the lack of humanity by Democrats that produced the inhuman version of slavery.



And it is ignorance that produced the above poster.

 

[rightwinger]

Jefferson + Genesis still resulted in slavery

But then again, the Bible condones slavery

Of course the Bibble condones slavery! Seeing people beaten, whipped and forced to toil in the fields gave Him a hard on from here to Uranus.

1. Every day we find another dunce like this, a grad of indoctrination school, sent out in the world to spread the propagnda.

He has never read the Bible.

Let's prove it.

"Of course the Bibble (sic) condones slavery! Seeing people beaten, whipped and forced to toil in the fields."

That, of course, is the Democrat version of slavery, and proof that the Democrats server a very different master.



2. Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.
The aspects that identify what we call 'slavery' today, the colloquial meaning, are the following:

a. permanence of bondage

b. treatment as material assets

c. control of the life and death of the slave: the slave could be beaten to death

d. an escaped slave had to be returned to his master….as decreed in the Dred Scott Democrat Supreme Court decision.
This is Democrat slavery.


3. None of the above are allowed to the 'slave owner' by the Bible.


"The Bible uses the Hebrew term eved (עבד) and Greek doulos (δοῦλος) to refer to slaves. Eved has a much wider meaning than the English term slave, and in many circumstances it is more accurately translated into English as servant or hired worker."
Christian views on slavery - Wikipedia


e,g, "God spoke face-to-face with Moses but Joshua will be instructed by Eleazar; Moses was the servant of God but Joshua is Moses’s minister (Joshua 1.1)." https://uwaterloo.ca/grebel/sites/ca.grebel/files/uploads/files/CGR-22-1-W2004-1_1.pdf


"If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything."
Exodus 21:2


So….if the Bible is your excuse for the imposition of slavery….the argument fails at the briefest perusal of the text.


4. But….how about simply defining black slaves as 'foreign'?

"While foreign slaves could be made slaves for life,…"


The treatment of blacks in the South doesn't seem to have conformed to this:

"….the laws regarding the general treatment of slaves applied to them as well (Lev 24:22, Num 15:15-16). The law made it clear that foreigners were not inferiors who could be mistreated (Ex 23:9); instead they were to be loved just as fellow Israelites were (Lev 19:33-34). " Slavery in the OT


If the Bible is used as the excuse used for slavery, then all of the restrictions need be followed.
They weren't.
It isn't.
It is the lack of humanity by Democrats that produced the inhuman version of slavery.



And it is ignorance that produced the above poster.

Sadly, the Judeo-Christian Bible did nothing to end the dreaded institution of slavery.

At best, it gave guidance to treat your slaves well and not to beat them too hard

You would think God would know better

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

 

[LordBrownTrout]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

....sadly, you believe in fairy tales--religion ..you are worse [ more stupid ] than than the Church hierarchy who punished someone for believing the Earth is NOT the center of the universe --they at least, didn't know any better
...you are like the people who believed in witches and the Earth was flat
hahahahahahahaha

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

..well, if you believe in sin in the context of religion/god--it's all man made --fake ..you don't go to hell for ''''sinning'''
gluttony is NATURAL to humans
so is jealousy/etc
...and everyone ''sins'''
...and there is no total free will --so we can't help but to ''sin''--it is really just being human

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

....sadly, you believe in fairy tales--religion ..you are worse [ more stupid ] than than the Church hierarchy who punished someone for believing the Earth is NOT the center of the universe --they at least, didn't know any better
...you are like the people who believed in witches and the Earth was flat
hahahahahahahaha

I believe in what the Founders of this nation believed.

Of course, you are far more intelligent than those individuals.

Anyone who reads your posts can make their own judgement.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

"..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc,"

Let's compare the damage done by your religion, Militant Secularism, to that done by the religion that was the basis of this nation's creation.
"There were two major Inquisitions, the Medieval Inquisition and Spanish Inquisition. Although there are no exact numbers, scholars believe they have estimated Inquisition deaths reasonably accurately. There were not as many deaths as the popular press claims. Numbers have often been inflated to as high as 9 million by the popular press, with absolutely no scholarly research. This figure is completely erroneous. A broad range of scholars, many of whom were not Catholic, have carefully studied the Inquisitions. They looked at all the existing records and were able to extrapolate. In the Medieval Inquisition, Bernard Gui was one of the most notorious of the medieval inquisitors. He tried 930 people out of which 42 were executed (4.5%). Another famous Inquisitor was Jacques Fournier who tried 114 cases of which 5 were executed (4.3%). Using numbers that are known, scholars have been able to surmise that approximately 2,000 people died in the Medieval Inquisition. (1231-1400 AD)"

The Inquisition

The Inquisition cost less than 6,000 lives in 500 years, abortion costs 1,000,000 lives every year

catholicbridge.com

Under the Democrat's predecessors, the Bolsheviks....
. From Solzhenitsyn's "Warning To The West,"... "Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1 ,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy ofthe world — England, France, the United States, Canada, and other small countries — from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union, How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? " Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The more general accounting?

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.

, the greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history: 17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 = 1,128,000,000

Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?

Clearly you are as correct about this as you are about anything else.


Sooooo......who ties your shoes for you?

 

[Hollie]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The more general accounting?

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.

, the greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history: 17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 = 1,128,000,000

Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?

Clearly you are as correct about this as you are about anything else.


Sooooo......who ties your shoes for you?

So,. basically you want the moral high ground because Christianity has been just a bit less deadly than Marxist, Mao'ist dictators.

Sooooo..... who cleans up that unsightly drool you leave on the floor?

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002).
Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia



What percent of teachers are child molestors?
They quoted a study that found that study up to 5 percent of teachers engage in some form of sexual abuse of students, from inappropriate verbal flirtation to intercourse. According to the National Center for Education Statistics.Apr 7, 2017
Who is more likely to sexually abuse your child? A Sex Offender or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_in_the_United_States


How many students are sexually assaulted by teachers?
81% or eight out of 10 students experience sexual harassment in school. 83% of girls have been sexually harassed. 78% of boys have been sexually harassed. 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees.
Sexual harassment in education in the United States - Wikipedia




Does that make you feel better?

 

[Hollie]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002).
Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia



What percent of teachers are child molestors?
They quoted a study that found that study up to 5 percent of teachers engage in some form of sexual abuse of students, from inappropriate verbal flirtation to intercourse. According to the National Center for Education Statistics.Apr 7, 2017
Who is more likely to sexually abuse your child? A Sex Offender or

Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia


How many students are sexually assaulted by teachers?
81% or eight out of 10 students experience sexual harassment in school. 83% of girls have been sexually harassed. 78% of boys have been sexually harassed. 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees.
Sexual harassment in education in the United States - Wikipedia




Does that make you feel better?

You find it comforting knowing that the catholic church operated and managed a child abuse syndicate for decades, but hey, look over there, schools harassed kids, too.

All better, now?

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002).
Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia



What percent of teachers are child molestors?
They quoted a study that found that study up to 5 percent of teachers engage in some form of sexual abuse of students, from inappropriate verbal flirtation to intercourse. According to the National Center for Education Statistics.Apr 7, 2017
Who is more likely to sexually abuse your child? A Sex Offender or

Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia


How many students are sexually assaulted by teachers?
81% or eight out of 10 students experience sexual harassment in school. 83% of girls have been sexually harassed. 78% of boys have been sexually harassed. 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees.
Sexual harassment in education in the United States - Wikipedia




Does that make you feel better?

hahahhahahahaa
what about the Inquisition? that wasn't 5%--that was ALL of the Church--a policy!!
....and all of the other Church members sin.....some MURDER...it's a lot more than 5%
...etc

 

[harmonica]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

sin is man made = fake

I know we disagree on this one. What is fake about it?

Sadly, Browny, you are dealing with one of those moral idiots who demands to have zero responsibility for every iniquity he commits.

“…Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) worried deeply about mankind unbound from moral obligation. He saw in the rise of an atheistic world the face of the Marquis de Sade…..sadist, rapist, pedophile who embraced passion, discounted human responsibility, and….dismissed God…

[Dostoyevsky] foresaw that materialist man was far more of a threat than religious man-….He saw that man would find in his search for purpose something far darker than the Judeo-Christian tradition…”
Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 115-116


Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

That's the moron's 'no such thing as sin' thesis.


Dostoyevsky was prescient in so may ways. He saw that reason and science were being touted as the only guides that mankind needed….and he didn’t accept same. “Human beings are creatures that seek more than which reason and science purport to give them- and they are more than the self-interested animals reason and science seek to make them. ….freed from moral responsibility….[they] would burst forth in a conflagration that will set the whole world on fire, Dostoyevsky predicted.

God’s death, Dostoyevsky thought, was man’s death as well.”
Shapiro, Op.Cit., p.117

..I would think someone with brains would get it after the Inquisition, then after the Crusades/Indulgence/etc, after Galileo, and then AFTER the priests [ all over the US and the world ] raped CHILDREN---then the hierarchy tried to cover it up
...now a priest is doing it on the ALTAR with dominatrices!!!!!!!!

https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article246327485.html

.....you are being duped big time

The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002).
Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia



What percent of teachers are child molestors?
They quoted a study that found that study up to 5 percent of teachers engage in some form of sexual abuse of students, from inappropriate verbal flirtation to intercourse. According to the National Center for Education Statistics.Apr 7, 2017
Who is more likely to sexually abuse your child? A Sex Offender or

Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia


How many students are sexually assaulted by teachers?
81% or eight out of 10 students experience sexual harassment in school. 83% of girls have been sexually harassed. 78% of boys have been sexually harassed. 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees.
Sexual harassment in education in the United States - Wikipedia




Does that make you feel better?

..that's just the ones who were caught doing that....and even more doing other sex/deviant sex