Jefferson + Genesis= Equality

[PoliticalChic]

I know I'm not perfect....but so close it's scary.
I could shame the Seraphs with my goodness.

No, it's not scary- its hilarious you think so highly of yourself.

Guilty as charged.

I bet one of us has the word 'valedictorian' in their resume and the other is you.


Now, if you are a good boy, and admit the truth about moi, I may allow you to be one of the bearers of my palanquin.

 

[Mac1958]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.


You can leave now, Jack Horner.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. “Jefferson's strategy to prevent aristocracies was to mandate partible -- that is, divisible -- inheritance, apportioning estates equally among all one's children. In Jefferson's time, this was a radical proposal. In the 18th century when a man died his estate often passed complete to his eldest son. This form of inheritance, known as primogeniture, sustained aristocracies by keeping family wealth intact over generations. Partible inheritance, Jefferson hoped, would force wealth to be divided successively over generations.

By the 1830s America had become one of the most egalitarian societies in world history, at least for white men. Alexis de Tocqueville, an acute observer of American democracy during the Jackson era, attributed the nation's equality to partible inheritance. Dividing estates, he wrote in "Democracy in America," creates a "revolution in ownership" that "works upon the very soul" of American society. Rather than inherit their status, Americans must earn it anew.” The Road to a New American Aristocracy | History News Network



Jefferson correctly viewed any tendency to impair the integrity of democracy as a prescription for disaster: the support must be of the whole people. And for Jefferson, democracy meant extreme individualism: as little government as possible. Further, he believed in extending the good things in life to as many as possible: as Governor of Virginia he was responsible for the end to entail (inheritance of land through a particular line of descent) and primogeniture (inheritance only by the eldest son).
Ibid.

 

[Rigby5]

To avoid any misunderstandings, the term 'equality' under Democrat terminology no longer has the same meaning as it did originally.


Democrats see it tinged with this context:

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.


The animals who demand a certain sort of cake have more of that 'equality' than any animals who don't choose to put their efforts into that demand.

Go figure.

I assume you are contrasting equality of opportunity with forced equality of outcome?

 

[Rigby5]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

 

[Mac1958]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

They don't use it as a guide, they use it as a weapon.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

"Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?"

One lie after another from you, you dunce.


the two powers that produced the greatest human environment ever to form on this planet, Western Civilization. Western civilization was built on two ideas:
God created every human in His image
......and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world.

These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.


In chapter 1 verse 26 we find the line that ended slavery:
And God said, 'Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness;

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

They don't use it as a guide, they use it as a weapon.

Where?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

Everyone is fallible and imperfect and sinful. Not God's fault.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

So you can't find a single thing to dispute?

Excellent.

You can leave now, Jack Horner.

Do you mean you really do use the Bible as guide, even though it was deliberately written by a bunch of men who wanted to force the Dark Ages feudalism on human society for thousands of years?
Why is it those touting the Bible were burning women as witches and humanists as heretics, starting crusades of conquest, invading New Worlds with evil colonialism and imperialism?

If the Bible was good, then should not it have stood up against dictators, monarchs, slavery, burning witches, and other evils?

Everyone is fallible and imperfect and sinful. Not God's fault.

I'm workin' on it!

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. "Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail

On February 5, 1777, Georgia formally adopts a new state constitution and becomes the first U.S. state to abolish the inheritance practices of primogeniture and entail.

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father’s property upon the father’s death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture. (Virginia abolished entail in 1776, but permitted primogeniture to persist until 1785.)

Georgians restructured inheritance laws in Article LI of the state’s constitution by abolishing entail in all forms and proclaiming that any person who died without a will would have his or her estate divided equally among their children; the widow shall have a child’s share, or her dower at her option.

The British colonies in North America, and particularly the southern colonies, were known as a haven for younger sons of the British gentry. Most famously, Benjamin Franklin announced in his autobiography that he was the youngest Son of the youngest Son for 5 Generations back. Moving to the colonies was an attractive option for younger sons like Franklin because there younger sons could take their monetary inheritance and build up their own estates, whereas primogeniture and entail prevented them from inheriting similar estates in the mother country."

Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail

On February 5, 1777, Georgia formally adopts a new state constitution and becomes the first U.S. state to abolish the inheritance practices of primogeniture and

www.history.com

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[flacaltenn]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

 

[Moonglow]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

 

[flacaltenn]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

Without the Bible and religion -- where do ya think the DISCIPLINE for having morals will come from? Would you get up early on Sunday and dress like a respectful human and MAKE yourself listen to 2 hours about "doing good"???

Hush up son.. We all know how Hollywood became the cesspool that it is today..

 

[Moonglow]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

Without the Bible and religion -- where do ya think the DISCIPLINE for having morals will come from? Would you get up early on Sunday and dress like a respectful human and MAKE yourself listen to 2 hours about "doing good"???

Hush up son.. We all know how Hollywood became the cesspool that it is today..

Other societies had their versions of morals and rules where do you think the Jews copied them from? And according to da jew the sabbath is Friday night till Saturday night.If yer doin' on Sunday yer way off...

 

[flacaltenn]

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

These folks will use the Bible to justify pretty much anything.

Just like Jihadis and the Koran.

"Those folks" have been dead for about 160 years and were mostly Democrats.. Little know historical facts that get lost in the smoke and explosions of derangement.. LOL...

 

[LordBrownTrout]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

Without the Bible and religion -- where do ya think the DISCIPLINE for having morals will come from? Would you get up early on Sunday and dress like a respectful human and MAKE yourself listen to 2 hours about "doing good"???

Hush up son.. We all know how Hollywood became the cesspool that it is today..

Other societies had their versions of morals and rules where do you think the Jews copied them from? And according to da jew the sabbath is Friday night till Saturday night.If yer doin' on Sunday yer way off...

Thats the old law/old testament. That is no more.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. While all recognize primogeniture in the world history, it is defined thus:

Primogeniture:
the state of being the firstborn child.
the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son.
(Google)

Primogeniture ensured that the eldest son in a family inherited the largest portion of his father's property upon the father's death. The practice of entail, guaranteeing that a landed estate remain in the hands of only one male heir, was frequently practiced in conjunction with primogeniture.
Georgia constitution abolishes primogeniture and entail ...



Other siblings get a stipend, an allowance, or, if the family is not wealthy enough for that event, must go out an make his or her way in the world.

Effectively, it produces and maintains an aristocracy.





It is no exaggeration to claim that the Bible is the reason for the success of Western Civilization. Whether allegory or actual history, the story of Esau and Jacob, wherein the younger son, who advances the ethical monotheism gets the inheritance, provided the model for Jefferson’s denying primogeniture.

The Bible is the reason for war, pestilence, famine, genocide incest to exist because it recognizes it, yet when the law states that you may not kill an intruder during the day and yet people in the US do it that are Christian do you think God punishes them? Does Christ punish them or his Dad or his manifestation of a spirit eat their souls or still their eyesight capabilities? Or do they melt like in Indiana Jones?

The bible isn't the reason for wars, pestilence, genocide, etc. Our sin nature is the reason for the aforementioned. Thats all.

And with the Ten Commandments on public display those righteous in piety can't seem to follow the rules either.

Stupidity never invalidates rules.. Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality.. Except maybe in your alternative universe..

When you can get them to stick with the rules and never break them then we can talk about having a society of morals.

Without the Bible and religion -- where do ya think the DISCIPLINE for having morals will come from? Would you get up early on Sunday and dress like a respectful human and MAKE yourself listen to 2 hours about "doing good"???

Hush up son.. We all know how Hollywood became the cesspool that it is today..

Other societies had their versions of morals and rules where do you think the Jews copied them from? And according to da jew the sabbath is Friday night till Saturday night.If yer doin' on Sunday yer way off...

Thats the old law/old testament. That is no more.

Actually, I have a good pal who is a Seventh Day Adventist, and she celebrates the sabbath on Saturday.

And this, from NOQ:

“Why I take the sabbath off even though I’m not a 7th Day Adventist or Hebrew Roots guy

I’m just a Bible-believing Christian. I don’t adhere to any particular denomination. I don’t go to a traditional church. My wife and I do Bible study, listen to a wide variety of sermons and Bible teachers, and we keep the sabbath. But we’re not Seventh Day Adventists nor part of the Hebrew Roots movement. Both have some good teachings. Both have some that we consider to be heretical.

We’re just Christians, and as such we believe in the validity of the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Part of this belief centers on a truth that the Ten Commandments are eternal, including the commandment regarding the sabbath day. From the Book of Exodus:

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

This is clear. It is absolutely unambiguous. There is no room for interpretation, no need for extensive exegesis."
Why I take the sabbath off even though I’m not a 7th Day Adventist or Hebrew Roots guy




There are a number of variations, but one religion....the Judeo-Christian.

 

[rightwinger]

Nothing in the Founding or 10 Commandments that isn't intuitive and suitable for governing and morality

Much of the 10 a commandments are not suitable for governing.

Should government force you to worship?