Jefferson Davis - He should've died in prison. He was responsible for so much death, destruction, misery.

[jacksonlamb]

So, you never heard of Sherman's March to the Sea. Does the Burning of Atlanta ring a bell?

All because northern industrialists wanted to control the cotton trade. Will there ever come a time when enlightenment reaches American History?

All because the war was caused to a good extent by the South's reliance on cotton.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Nonsense

Until revisionist history infected the universities in the 1960s the southern soldiers were respected by educated and uneducated Americans alike

The counter culture fueled by mind warping illegal drugs radicalized a generation and we have suffered from it ever since

You revisionist history is unacceptable as you well know.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

All because the war was caused to a good extent by the South's reliance on cotton.

Yes. Poor planning. They should have built their own mills and factories early on. Instead, when they decided to do so, the north was powerful enough to do so.

 

[jacksonlamb]

2017 is the copyright of the book. Not the origin of what happened in 1865. I realize they may not have copyrights in coloring books and thus your ignorance of them. But, keep your Crayola's handy. History books have notes and endnotes where they cite their sources from.

For example: The quotes given on p.(129) one is based on 'Congressional Globe, 39th Cong., 1st sess., December 14, 1865, 50'. Another is based on 'Congressional Globe, 39th Cong., 1st sess. December 14, 1865, 108'. Do you disagree with these quotes? If so, why? And please support your answer.

The quote given on p.(136) is based on 'Congressional Globe, 39th Cong., 2d sess., December 12, 1866, 86-90'. Do you disagree with this quote? If so, why. And please support your answer.

Concerning the quote on p. (137), do you disagree with the authors statement that due to Congress's inquiry into the Davis case, that Attorney General Speed issued his official opinion of the Davis case in January 1866?

Concerning the quote on pages (137-138), do you disagree that that was Attorney General Speed's official opinion? If so, please present what it really was. And show from where you got it.

In other words, your 2017 remark is just another of your shit statements. Point being, the Jeff Davis trial would be held in a real court of law, and not a military lynching tribunal. And that caused the damnyankees to shit all over themselves knowing they would be found guilty of treason.

Quantrill

So very questionable. Johnson would have ignored Speed's recommendation. Speed's recommendation was overridden by Johnson's universal pardon. Davis was pardoned operatively, and what he wanted did not matter, which was it was worth, nothing.

 

[PeanutGallery]

Jefferson Davis deserved a firing squad, not a prison sentence. Instead, Jefferson Davis was sentenced to, and eventually released from Prison-. He should've died a horrible death in prison. He was personally responsible for so much death, destruction, misery.

Today in History: Jefferson Davis Released from Prison

When the Civil War ended, the government faced the problem of what to do with the former Confederate president, Jefferson Davis, or “Jeffie D” as Lincoln referred to him.

After Davis had been captured in Georgia, some Northerners wanted to try him as an accomplice to Lincoln’s assassination. Others wanted him prosecuted for the deadly conditions at the Andersonville prisoner of war camp. But there was no evidence for either charge.

In 1866, the House voted to try him for treason, which was agreeable to Davis. He looked forward to a trial where he could justify his actions. Now prosecutors worried a not guilty verdict might be viewed as a validation for secession.

Finally, today in 1867, he was freed from prison when several prominent men in the North signed the $100,000 bond that would release him. The publisher Horace Greeley justified his signing the bond by saying “From the hour he lays down his arms, my enemy is my formerly erring countryman.”


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Image: Horrible Human Being Jefferson Davis, 1869 (Wikimedia Commons)

All former Confederates who applied were pardoned by President Andrew Jackson, a Southern democrat on Christmas Day 1868. The trial was supposed to start in February 1869, but the federal prosecutors (who would've been under Jackson) entered a statement of decision not to prosecute. That statement went for 31 people who were indicted, including Robert E. Lee. That took care of the rest of the Confederate officers from facing any prison and/or execution for their roles in the Civil War.

Many factors aside from the merits of the case itself prompted the federal government to abandon prosecuting Davis. Delays had dragged out the trial process for years, including the reluctance of one of the two trial judges – Chief Justice Salmon Chase – to participate and his lengthy absence to preside over the impeachment of President Andrew Johnson. Chase’s aspirations to run for president himself in the next election cycle and his private consultations with Davis’ legal team also muddied the function of the case, as did the hyper-partisan attitudes of the judge who co-presided, radical Republican John C. Underwood. The unpredictability of a Richmond jury (which excluded former Confederates from serving and was thus composed of wartime Unionists and African Americans) and a last-ditch effort to bypass the jury by having the case dismissed on unrelated constitutional grounds made the case, in the estimation of prosecutors, too complex and politically charged to be worth pursuing.

Salmon Chase ran as a republican for the Presidency back in 1860 against Lincoln but later ran under the democratic party ticket in 1868 and on the liberal republican ticket in 1872. Horace Greeley, who signed the bond, was a member of the liberal republican party. The liberal republicans' platform was endorsed by the democratic party, and the democratic party chose Greeley as their nominee against Grant in the 1872 election.

 

[Dante]

The Constitution did not prohibit succession

Hello? What are you going on about here?

Now, try reading arguments over it all. Last time you claimed it was settled.


You're a friggin' clown.

 

[Dante]

All former Confederates who applied were pardoned by President Andrew Jackson, a Southern democrat on Christmas Day 1868. The trial was supposed to start in February 1869, but the federal prosecutors (who would've been under Jackson) entered a statement of decision not to prosecute. That statement went for 31 people who were indicted, including Robert E. Lee. That took care of the rest of the Confederate officers from facing any prison and/or execution for their roles in the Civil War.

Many factors aside from the merits of the case itself prompted the federal government to abandon prosecuting Davis. Delays had dragged out the trial process for years, including the reluctance of one of the two trial judges – Chief Justice Salmon Chase – to participate and his lengthy absence to preside over the impeachment of President Andrew Johnson. Chase’s aspirations to run for president himself in the next election cycle and his private consultations with Davis’ legal team also muddied the function of the case, as did the hyper-partisan attitudes of the judge who co-presided, radical Republican John C. Underwood. The unpredictability of a Richmond jury (which excluded former Confederates from serving and was thus composed of wartime Unionists and African Americans) and a last-ditch effort to bypass the jury by having the case dismissed on unrelated constitutional grounds made the case, in the estimation of prosecutors, too complex and politically charged to be worth pursuing.

Salmon Chase ran as a republican for the Presidency back in 1860 against Lincoln but later ran under the democratic party ticket in 1868 and on the liberal republican ticket in 1872. Horace Greeley, who signed the bond, was a member of the liberal republican party. The liberal republicans' platform was endorsed by the democratic party, and the democratic party chose Greeley as their nominee against Grant in the 1872 election.

Info I believe most of us have already read. What is your point here?

 

[Mac-7]

You revisionist history is unacceptable as you well know.

Lib misinformation is so ingrained it may seem revisionist to you