Jeff Sessions has created a religious liberty task force to “protect & promote religious liberty”

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& be free from it. religion belongs in places of worship & in one's own home.

not in government.

Who’s saying it should be in government? Not me.

the handmaiden kim davis...

the pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions...

mike pence... jeff sessions...

Wrong, link?

fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

 

[PredFan]

Who’s saying it should be in government? Not me.

the handmaiden kim davis...

the pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions...

mike pence... jeff sessions...

Wrong, link?

fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

 

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the handmaiden kim davis...

the pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions...

mike pence... jeff sessions...

Wrong, link?

fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Sessions said the task force, which he will chair, is to help implementation of the religious liberty memo he signed in last October.

the story is on the website of The Washington Examiner.

Somehow I suspect that some religions will see more 'implementation of religious liberty' than others.....

I'm sure Muslims will be protected under this too...........

 

[PredFan]

Wrong, link?

fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

 

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fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

oh my... such rw pablum. there is such thing as equal protection under the law.

it's in the constitution.

but then again- you don't believe in a secular nation built on laws & want one built on men.

 

[PredFan]

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

oh my... such rw pablum. there is such thing as equal protection under the law.

it's in the constitution.

but then again- you don't believe in a secular nation built on laws & want one built on men.

None of that has anything to do with the Constitution.

And I am the only one of us two that wants a nation of laws. That is what all true conservatives always want.

Learn something idiot.

 

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lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

oh my... such rw pablum. there is such thing as equal protection under the law.

it's in the constitution.

but then again- you don't believe in a secular nation built on laws & want one built on men.

None of that has anything to do with the Constitution.

And I am the only one of us two that wants a nation of laws. That is what all true conservatives always want.

Learn something idiot.

you support a russian asset being in the whitehouse. you have turned your back on the constitution.

 

[PredFan]

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

oh my... such rw pablum. there is such thing as equal protection under the law.

it's in the constitution.

but then again- you don't believe in a secular nation built on laws & want one built on men.

None of that has anything to do with the Constitution.

And I am the only one of us two that wants a nation of laws. That is what all true conservatives always want.

Learn something idiot.

you support a russian asset being in the whitehouse. you have turned your back on the constitution.

You’re too stupid to talk to. Dismissed.

 

[Syriusly]

Sessions said the task force, which he will chair, is to help implementation of the religious liberty memo he signed in last October.

the story is on the website of The Washington Examiner.

Somehow I suspect that some religions will see more 'implementation of religious liberty' than others.....

I'm sure Muslims will be protected under this too...........

Yes- just as Jeff Sessions has risen to the defense of Muslims in the past.......

 

[Syriusly]

fact. each one claimed religious grounds for doing their secular job. davis was a government employee in a government building, on government grounds, refusing to do her government job...

the 2 pharmacists refused to pass those scripts to other employees to fill. now do your own research & find the truth little ducky.

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

Everyone has a right to control his or her own fertility.

Every woman has a right to an abortion.

How is religious liberty infringed upon currently?

Anyone

High School Coaches fired for taking a knee in prayer on the field. Teachers wearing crosses at school.

Muslim taxi drivers being forced to transport the blind with their guide dogs.
Muslims being denied permits to build mosques.

Somehow I suspect that the religious liberty task force will not be out there protecting the Muslims 'religious freedom'.......but evangelicals can take heart that they will have their own special police force protecting them.

 

[PredFan]

No link just your words. Here’s a clue for the clueless: one person acting according to his beliefs does not a theocracy make.

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

Everyone has a right to control his or her own fertility.

Every woman has a right to an abortion.

How is religious liberty infringed upon currently?

Anyone

High School Coaches fired for taking a knee in prayer on the field. Teachers wearing crosses at school.

Muslim taxi drivers being forced to transport the blind with their guide dogs.
Muslims being denied permits to build mosques.

Somehow I suspect that the religious liberty task force will not be out there protecting the Muslims 'religious freedom'.......but evangelicals can take heart that they will have their own special police force protecting them.

No, they have the responsibility to control their own fertility. No one has a right to an abortion, or birth control pills. I dare you to try to show where it is written that they do.

Muslin taxi drivers should not be forced to violate their religion in exactly that same way the Christians shouldn’t.

You still have failed to show in any way how religion is being forced on anyone.

 

[sakinago]

Sessions said the task force, which he will chair, is to help implementation of the religious liberty memo he signed in last October.

the story is on the website of The Washington Examiner.

How is religious liberty infringed upon currently?

Anyone...?

The only separation of church and state comes in the form of the first amendment, that states congress shall make no law concerning the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof. So forcing someone, say a baker or a sisterhood of nuns, to do something they have religious objections too would be in violation of the first amendment. Government does not have the right to force someone’s time, money, efforts, or labor towards something they have religious objections too (obviously as long as they are not physically harming or stealing from someone in the process).

There are also a few cases of townships or municipalities giving religious folks the run-around, or denying them access to their land. Usually in the form of going against Orthodox Jews, who do not drive on the sabbath, so they worship out of the rabbis house and they all live within walking distance. They’ll be denied permits for expansion, or be told they don’t have the “parking space” necessary for their establishment, which is silly because they do not drive there.

So there is no such thing as “freedom from religion” other than government forcing you to participate in some sort of religious ceremony. So can a teacher or whatever religion pray in front of their class, yes, can they order the class to pray with them, no. Can a lawmaker cite the Bible or whatever as rationale for a yes or no vote on whatever law, yes, as long as the law doesn’t prevent or force someone to behave in a way against their own religious (or non-religious) beliefs.

Remember the supreme courts decision (I think it was 7-2) over the Colorado baker and the gay wedding cake never touched on whether or not they had to back the cake (or be subject to 135,000$ fine). The decision stated that there was clear, and malicious bias against the bakers over their religion from the state prosecution. That is another example of violation against religious freedom from the state.

I haven’t heard many cases of religious freedom violations coming from the right, outside of DOMA, at least not any I can think of. Do you mind educating me?

 

[Silhouette]

So there is no such thing as “freedom from religion” other than government forcing you to participate in some sort of religious ceremony. So can a teacher or whatever religion pray in front of their class, yes, can they order the class to pray with them, no.

When you say "religion" what you're talking about is a set of dogma about behaviors in humans. Given that, what do you think about my signature?

 

[sakinago]

So there is no such thing as “freedom from religion” other than government forcing you to participate in some sort of religious ceremony. So can a teacher or whatever religion pray in front of their class, yes, can they order the class to pray with them, no.

When you say "religion" what you're talking about is a set of dogma about behaviors in humans. Given that, what do you think about my signature?

No, dogma is uniform and strict set of principles from an authority. I don’t even think that describes a majority of the religious. I know plenty of church going folk, and they just are not like that. I meet very few of what you’d call fundamental folk. Now I know that’s anecdotal, but the stats on the church are pretty dismal for the church. Big ole down trend that’s been happening for awhile. I do think religious dogma gets replaced by other dogma.

I don’t see you’re signature anywhere? What is it?

 

[koshergrl]

Sessions said the task force, which he will chair, is to help implementation of the religious liberty memo he signed in last October.

the story is on the website of The Washington Examiner.

Good.

 

[Lysistrata]

lol... but it's more than one person... a movement always starts out small...it is religious organizations & those companies that deem themselves as such are jumping in the swamp. a few strokes of the keyboard would prove that lazy duck.

No, it’s a minority of people and doesn’t include anyone who has actual power.

sure. tell that to the females who want birth control but cannot get it even though they should thru their work related health ins.

or the woman who had to go to another pharmacy to get a 'script to expel the already dead 'baby' in her uterus.

or the person who needed a 'script for hormones & had to go somewhere else for it.

or the people who were legally & constitutionally able to get a marriage license & were denied.

the power shifted from the establishment clause to a state sanctioned religious doctrine.

all chasms start with a crack.

No one has a right to birth control

No one has a right to free or subsidized abortion

No one has a right to prescription drugs

Gay marriage is legal

Still waiting for proof that religion is being forced on anyone.

Everyone has a right to control his or her own fertility.

Every woman has a right to an abortion.

How is religious liberty infringed upon currently?

Anyone

High School Coaches fired for taking a knee in prayer on the field. Teachers wearing crosses at school.

Muslim taxi drivers being forced to transport the blind with their guide dogs.
Muslims being denied permits to build mosques.

Somehow I suspect that the religious liberty task force will not be out there protecting the Muslims 'religious freedom'.......but evangelicals can take heart that they will have their own special police force protecting them.

No, they have the responsibility to control their own fertility. No one has a right to an abortion, or birth control pills. I dare you to try to show where it is written that they do.

Muslin taxi drivers should not be forced to violate their religion in exactly that same way the Christians shouldn’t.

You still have failed to show in any way how religion is being forced on anyone.

 

[Lysistrata]

No one has a right to an abortion, or birth control pills.

Yes, they do. No one has the right to interfere with these decisions, which are personal. Certainly, no level of government has the right to force some religious dogma on the public. Yeah, there are some religions that object, but that's just tough.

 

[my2¢]

Can't say I'm comfortable with this, the government sticking its nose into things worries me. Not so much with this administration but there's no guarantee as to who comes next.

 

[MindWars]

Oh this should be good.