Divine Wind
Platinum Member
Disagreed.You are an idiot....
I've noticed......words fail me.
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Disagreed.You are an idiot....
I've noticed......words fail me.
I note you do not have a single citation in your post. You wrote a lot of fake nonsense. Do not expect any more responses from me.Pretty poor defence of your statement, Eloy.It is not so easy to find stuff in the record and post the links here with photos and such. Will three do just for the sake of illustration, I wonder.Could you provide some examples of these 'racist and xenophobic opinions as expressed by politicians leading to the Brexit vote'?I do believe that expressing xenophobic and racist opinions by the politicians leading to the Brexit vote lent respectability to the language of hate and encouraged Thomas Mair to act-out his deranged fantasies.Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder
I hope that the authorities take some time to explore the influences on this character. It might help us avoid future atrocities.
1. The poster of refugees which showed only ethnic young men which was used by Nigel Farage to give the impression that crowds of foreigners wanted to migrate en masse which incited racial hatred.
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Nigel Farage is now intending to go and live in America. I am sure he will have no trouble doing so legally. Good riddance.
2. "Michael Gove and Boris Johnson [both Tory politicians who led the Brexit campaign] peddled their fiction about Turkey joining the EU. One didn’t need especially keen hearing to pick that up as code for 80 million Muslims entering Christendom."
After a campaign scarred by bigotry, it’s become OK to be racist in Britain | Aditya Chakrabortty
3. On TV British English people heard British National Party member Mark Collet say in 2013, “The Jews have been thrown out of every country, including England. … Let’s face it, when it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution: There’s no smoke without fire.”
The Brexit debate has made Britain more racist
This racist had infiltrated the Leave campaign.
1. The pic used by Farage is genuine and factual, regardless that snowflakes don't like people being exposed to the truth. indeed Europe has admitted far more young fighting age men than women, children, and the elderly. It's on record that the majority of women and children were left in refugee camps. In addition, it is clear that a great many of the 'refugees' were in fact economic migrants who did not even come from Syria but from all over the globe.
2. Turkey has been negotiating to join the EU for some time. There are a few countries that veto that, the U.K. being one of them at times I believe. However, Cameron was keen for Turkey to be admitted, and had we voted to remain who knows how long it would have been before that happened. Many Europeans are totally against Turkey joining for several reasons, one being human rights abuses, another being their antipathy to a free press and their treatment of journalists. So no, reiterating their stance against Turkey joining the EU was the right thing to do, IMHO, and hardly evidence of xenophobia or racism.
3. AFAIK, the BNP is not even a party anymore and hasn't been for some time because so few people support them or listen to them.. whether they exist or notm the BNP had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of the campaigners for Brexit, in terms of campaigners as individuals or as political parties..
So, no, I still fail to see all this xenophobic, racist rhetoric you refer to.
The issue here is that the politicos like farage made the running and their lackeys in the press gave it the full throttle. Together they have created the toxic atmosphere in which we live today.It is not so easy to find stuff in the record and post the links here with photos and such. Will three do just for the sake of illustration, I wonder.Could you provide some examples of these 'racist and xenophobic opinions as expressed by politicians leading to the Brexit vote'?I do believe that expressing xenophobic and racist opinions by the politicians leading to the Brexit vote lent respectability to the language of hate and encouraged Thomas Mair to act-out his deranged fantasies.Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder
I hope that the authorities take some time to explore the influences on this character. It might help us avoid future atrocities.
1. The poster of refugees which showed only ethnic young men which was used by Nigel Farage to give the impression that crowds of foreigners wanted to migrate en masse which incited racial hatred.
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Nigel Farage is now intending to go and live in America. I am sure he will have no trouble doing so legally. Good riddance.
2. "Michael Gove and Boris Johnson [both Tory politicians who led the Brexit campaign] peddled their fiction about Turkey joining the EU. One didn’t need especially keen hearing to pick that up as code for 80 million Muslims entering Christendom."
After a campaign scarred by bigotry, it’s become OK to be racist in Britain | Aditya Chakrabortty
3. On TV British English people heard British National Party member Mark Collet say in 2013, “The Jews have been thrown out of every country, including England. … Let’s face it, when it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution: There’s no smoke without fire.”
The Brexit debate has made Britain more racist
This racist had infiltrated the Leave campaign.
Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder
I hope that the authorities take some time to explore the influences on this character. It might help us avoid future atrocities.
Wrong. It continued in several countries including the US and Argentina. You don't remember Skokie?There are no Nazis today; there cannot be because Nazism died with Hitler in April 1945.
The Soviet Union was not ruled by committeeTrue. Does the name Democratic People's Republic of Korea make North Korea a Democracy or a Republic?National SOCIALIST Workers Party = Nazi Part
The big difference between Fascists and Socialists is that Fascists have a single leader while Socialists rule by committee. Both are extremely authoritarian states.
Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
Like I said, I'm not sure what Trump is. I don't believe he is that partisan. We will have to see what he does.Agreed the Nazi party has deteriorated a lot since 1945. Nowadays their parades are composed of a few ignorant idiots marching as a mob, not well-lit, well-ordered events like in "Triumph of the Will".Really? A pic with two men with their arms raised?
Not quite on a par with an actual Nazi rally.
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Nonetheless, Nazis support Trump. If Nazis are Socialists, then Socialists support Trump. Pumpkin claims Trump is a Lefty, but not a Socialist. I provided evidence that shows differently, but am curious what you think?
Top Nazi leader: Trump will be a ‘real opportunity’ for white nationalists
The effort to plant the seeds of white nationalism in the political mainstream, where they might blossom into pro-white political coalitions that appeal to a broader swath of Caucasian voters, will not be easy, according to the chairman of the American Nazi Party.
But Rocky Suhayda thinks there is one political figure who presents a “real opportunity” to lessen the load.
Who is it? Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president.
It is not so easy to find stuff in the record and post the links here with photos and such. Will three do just for the sake of illustration, I wonder.Could you provide some examples of these 'racist and xenophobic opinions as expressed by politicians leading to the Brexit vote'?I do believe that expressing xenophobic and racist opinions by the politicians leading to the Brexit vote lent respectability to the language of hate and encouraged Thomas Mair to act-out his deranged fantasies.Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder
I hope that the authorities take some time to explore the influences on this character. It might help us avoid future atrocities.
1. The poster of refugees which showed only ethnic young men which was used by Nigel Farage to give the impression that crowds of foreigners wanted to migrate en masse which incited racial hatred.
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Nigel Farage is now intending to go and live in America. I am sure he will have no trouble doing so legally. Good riddance.
2. "Michael Gove and Boris Johnson [both Tory politicians who led the Brexit campaign] peddled their fiction about Turkey joining the EU. One didn’t need especially keen hearing to pick that up as code for 80 million Muslims entering Christendom."
After a campaign scarred by bigotry, it’s become OK to be racist in Britain | Aditya Chakrabortty
3. On TV British English people heard British National Party member Mark Collet say in 2013, “The Jews have been thrown out of every country, including England. … Let’s face it, when it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution: There’s no smoke without fire.”
The Brexit debate has made Britain more racist
This racist had infiltrated the Leave campaign.
While they appointed a chairman, they also had a Politburo. China has the National People's Congress.The Soviet Union was not ruled by committee
Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
"Clearly he lied about literally every single one of his policies. That would explain his widespread support from the Germans." Good grief.
Learn: Nazi domestic policies 1933-39 (by tireni618) - Memorize.com - Remember and Understand
Hitler's Domestic Policies
Hitler's Economics
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment (While this person is a nutjob, he does point out that Hitler's economic policies were similar to FDR's, and FDR was ALSO a Socialist.)
How successful were the domestic policies of the Nazi Party 1933 - 1939? - GCSE History - Marked by Teachers.com
LIES YOUR TEACHER TAUGHT YOU: Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies
All of these sources, and literally every source I've come across that even discusses the policies of the Nazis, are in agreement that they implemented Socialist policies. You've still given me nothing in terms of actual policies.
The issue here is that the politicos like farage made the running and their lackeys in the press gave it the full throttle. Together they have created the toxic atmosphere in which we live today.It is not so easy to find stuff in the record and post the links here with photos and such. Will three do just for the sake of illustration, I wonder.Could you provide some examples of these 'racist and xenophobic opinions as expressed by politicians leading to the Brexit vote'?I do believe that expressing xenophobic and racist opinions by the politicians leading to the Brexit vote lent respectability to the language of hate and encouraged Thomas Mair to act-out his deranged fantasies.Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder
I hope that the authorities take some time to explore the influences on this character. It might help us avoid future atrocities.
1. The poster of refugees which showed only ethnic young men which was used by Nigel Farage to give the impression that crowds of foreigners wanted to migrate en masse which incited racial hatred.
![]()
Nigel Farage is now intending to go and live in America. I am sure he will have no trouble doing so legally. Good riddance.
2. "Michael Gove and Boris Johnson [both Tory politicians who led the Brexit campaign] peddled their fiction about Turkey joining the EU. One didn’t need especially keen hearing to pick that up as code for 80 million Muslims entering Christendom."
After a campaign scarred by bigotry, it’s become OK to be racist in Britain | Aditya Chakrabortty
3. On TV British English people heard British National Party member Mark Collet say in 2013, “The Jews have been thrown out of every country, including England. … Let’s face it, when it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution: There’s no smoke without fire.”
The Brexit debate has made Britain more racist
This racist had infiltrated the Leave campaign.
Hate crimes consistently rising after Brexit, new figures show
Race and religious hate crimes rose 41% after EU vote - BBC News
Official: huge rise in racist hate crime in the UK after Brexit
So the fact is established.There is little doubt in anyones mind that it was whipped up by month after month of shite propaganda from the shite press. All of this operating on idiots like Mair and 100s of other micro fascists across the country. And now you have a body count.
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Like I keep explaining to you sheep, it's the opposite of right wing ideology, and his policies were 100% Socialist. You guys just haven't bothered to research the policies implemented under Hitler.Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
"Clearly he lied about literally every single one of his policies. That would explain his widespread support from the Germans." Good grief.
Learn: Nazi domestic policies 1933-39 (by tireni618) - Memorize.com - Remember and Understand
Hitler's Domestic Policies
Hitler's Economics
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment (While this person is a nutjob, he does point out that Hitler's economic policies were similar to FDR's, and FDR was ALSO a Socialist.)
How successful were the domestic policies of the Nazi Party 1933 - 1939? - GCSE History - Marked by Teachers.com
LIES YOUR TEACHER TAUGHT YOU: Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies
All of these sources, and literally every source I've come across that even discusses the policies of the Nazis, are in agreement that they implemented Socialist policies. You've still given me nothing in terms of actual policies.
Try reading history, not right propaganda sites. The reason Chamberlain and others appeased Hitler in the 1930's was because he was virulently anti-communist, and devotedly right-wing. Under Hilter, Germany was in no danger of ever becoming a communist country.
Nazism is extremely right wing.
Hitler was definitely RW, but Nazism does have elements of both socialism and capitalism. Hopefully we can all agree Fascism and Nazism are both highly authoritarian.Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
"Clearly he lied about literally every single one of his policies. That would explain his widespread support from the Germans." Good grief.
Learn: Nazi domestic policies 1933-39 (by tireni618) - Memorize.com - Remember and Understand
Hitler's Domestic Policies
Hitler's Economics
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment (While this person is a nutjob, he does point out that Hitler's economic policies were similar to FDR's, and FDR was ALSO a Socialist.)
How successful were the domestic policies of the Nazi Party 1933 - 1939? - GCSE History - Marked by Teachers.com
LIES YOUR TEACHER TAUGHT YOU: Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies
All of these sources, and literally every source I've come across that even discusses the policies of the Nazis, are in agreement that they implemented Socialist policies. You've still given me nothing in terms of actual policies.
Try reading history, not right propaganda sites. The reason Chamberlain and others appeased Hitler in the 1930's was because he was virulently anti-communist, and devotedly right-wing. Under Hilter, Germany was in no danger of ever becoming a communist country.
Nazism is extremely right wing.
Just as I thought. You're far enough left to ignore all evidence and continue to make the same false claims after you have been proven wrong. This is sad and pathetic.Hitler was definitely RW, but Nazism does have elements of both socialism and capitalism. Hopefully we can all agree Fascism and Nazism are both highly authoritarian.Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
"Clearly he lied about literally every single one of his policies. That would explain his widespread support from the Germans." Good grief.
Learn: Nazi domestic policies 1933-39 (by tireni618) - Memorize.com - Remember and Understand
Hitler's Domestic Policies
Hitler's Economics
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment (While this person is a nutjob, he does point out that Hitler's economic policies were similar to FDR's, and FDR was ALSO a Socialist.)
How successful were the domestic policies of the Nazi Party 1933 - 1939? - GCSE History - Marked by Teachers.com
LIES YOUR TEACHER TAUGHT YOU: Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies
All of these sources, and literally every source I've come across that even discusses the policies of the Nazis, are in agreement that they implemented Socialist policies. You've still given me nothing in terms of actual policies.
Try reading history, not right propaganda sites. The reason Chamberlain and others appeased Hitler in the 1930's was because he was virulently anti-communist, and devotedly right-wing. Under Hilter, Germany was in no danger of ever becoming a communist country.
Nazism is extremely right wing.
Well I have read the article and I understand what the jury has been asked to do.If the OP had read the article hw would have seen that the jury found the defendant guilty of murder only.
Jury was not asked to find his motivation.
Too many US Message Board posters only care about headlines.
But now that the nazi fuck is living at our expense I dont see a problem with a few clever people going in and speaking to him.
Do you understand what I am saying ?
Like I keep explaining to you sheep, it's the opposite of right wing ideology, and his policies were 100% Socialist. You guys just haven't bothered to research the policies implemented under Hitler.Your 'proof' included no policies, you only showed me websites stating that they were right wing 'because we said so'. Showing me websites that got the political spectrum wrong doesn't support your already baseless argument.Scroll up kid.....Unlike me, you haven't given me one single thing that proves the political alignment of the Nazis. ....
As for your proof, one is a HS paper by a now-20something youngster and the other are speeches by Hitler. He said a lot of shit that isn't true. His actions were different, however. Specifically his support of the RWer Nationalist Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War and his hate for Stalin and all communists/Marxists.
"Clearly he lied about literally every single one of his policies. That would explain his widespread support from the Germans." Good grief.
Learn: Nazi domestic policies 1933-39 (by tireni618) - Memorize.com - Remember and Understand
Hitler's Domestic Policies
Hitler's Economics
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment (While this person is a nutjob, he does point out that Hitler's economic policies were similar to FDR's, and FDR was ALSO a Socialist.)
How successful were the domestic policies of the Nazi Party 1933 - 1939? - GCSE History - Marked by Teachers.com
LIES YOUR TEACHER TAUGHT YOU: Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies
All of these sources, and literally every source I've come across that even discusses the policies of the Nazis, are in agreement that they implemented Socialist policies. You've still given me nothing in terms of actual policies.
Try reading history, not right propaganda sites. The reason Chamberlain and others appeased Hitler in the 1930's was because he was virulently anti-communist, and devotedly right-wing. Under Hilter, Germany was in no danger of ever becoming a communist country.
Nazism is extremely right wing.
No Nation is ever in danger of being Communist, as Communism is impossible to implement, will never be practiced, and has never been practiced.
You can flirt all day, young lady, but 1) I'm 3 times your age and 2) more importantly, happily married.Just as I thought. You're far enough left to ignore all evidence and continue to make the same false claims after you have been proven wrong. This is sad and pathetic.
Care to check off how many of those we have in the USA?'Public need before Private Greed'
Nazi Party policies.
50% tax on wealthiest Germans
National health care system
Public education system
Free university education
Winter allowances
Expansion of Pension programme
Subsidies for farmers
Nationalising industries and crippling taxes on others that remained private
Price and rent controls
Gvmnt jobs programmes
Profit sharing
Maternity care
Abolition of child labour
Looks pretty SOCIALIST to me.