Jack Smith Debating Dropping All Of The Cases Against Trump

I think it's better to send them back so their home countries so they can put them back in their own prisons and save us a few billion bucks.

In all honesty I think YOU think we have money growing on trees.
I think, that criminals (especially violent criminals) need long sentences, and I am willing to see tax money spent to extract punishment. This is better than sending them home, to sneak into the country again. We have deported in the past, only to see them come back. Trump said while campaigning, (whether true or not) that countries opened up their prisons, so their prisoners could come here. You advocate, we open up our prisons so that violent criminals without being subject to our laws, are released to come back here, same as what President-Elect Donald Trump said, those countries did. If you support what he said as a candidate, it is at odds with what you support, now.
 
I think, that criminals (especially violent criminals) need long sentences, and I am willing to see tax money spent to extract punishment. This is better than sending them home, to sneak into the country again. We have deported in the past, only to see them come back. Trump said while campaigning, (whether true or not) that countries opened up their prisons, so their prisoners could come here. You advocate, we open up our prisons so that violent criminals without being subject to our laws, are released to come back here, same as what President-Elect Donald Trump said, those countries did. If you support what he said as a candidate, it is at odds with what you support, now.
Here's the rub. If it weren't for Democrats paying for them to come here and stay here, 99% of them wouldn't bother to come here in the first place.

They're only coming here to escape prison in their home countries. And they know we'll take care of them.

I guess you also forgot about all of the millions of criminals that Dems released during COVID, claiming they'd be safe running around raping and murdering citizens.
 
You might as well give up on the trumpian name calling. It makes you look like an effectual little overexcited Chihuahua, attempt to nip at ankles of a grown man, walking past in boots. There is no getting around, you don't believe in the legal system, and laws, based solely on political stance.

Tell us, Mr Legal theory from your experience as a juror, what are the legal consequences to a juror, believe somebody innocent (or nullified, knowing thier guilt as proven) for failing to take into account a judges instruction, and simply voting "Not Guilty"? The answer is none.
That is the neat things of the hassle, of being on a jury, charged to make the decision of guilt. If even one juror could have been convinced, by the defense, the charges (though true) were unfairly brought or fought, or the person being tried was simply not someone they were unwilling to convict, even after hearing and seeing the evidence. After all this was not a capital punishment crime. Remember OJ? Most of the country was pretty sure he was responsible for those deaths, but the jury became convinced over the course of the trial, this was not someone they were will to see sentenced for the crimes. So, OJ walked out totally innocent of the crime(s). You are whining about ineffectual legal representation by the defense.

Personally, I think Gov Hochul should pardon, to clear the air, both for the good of the state, and the country. And, of course there is precedent, as Nixon was saved from prosecution for this very reason, though it was one of the reason Ford lost election to the office of President, he was holding, when he made that decision. Did it mean Nixon had not done, what he was evidenced to have done? No. But, it did mean he was legally clear of all charges? Yes. It did not cost him a fortune to fight it in court, did not continue the public spectacle, distasteful to all. Does New York need a legal precedent that politicians cannot be prosecuted for laws on the books of that state? No. Is it necessary or beneficial to keep running up defense and prosecution legal bills, only benefitting the lawyers? No. Would it save time, money and continued spectacle. Would it be a win for Trump? Yes. I view this as effective, pragmatic resolution, better for all. It is time to clear the air, as the voters (just like ultimate jurors of record have made a decision, good, bad or indifferent (as we shall see), based on the future, as the past was officially taken into account, at the polls on Tuesday. I wish him and the country (indeed the world) good luck on his presidency.
You still wilfully don't understand. Trump will be victorious because the Apellate Court will throw out the convictions as an abomination of law, a corruption of the legal system, and a clear violation of the Constitution.
 
I think, that criminals (especially violent criminals) need long sentences, and I am willing to see tax money spent to extract punishment. This is better than sending them home, to sneak into the country again. We have deported in the past, only to see them come back. Trump said while campaigning, (whether true or not) that countries opened up their prisons, so their prisoners could come here. You advocate, we open up our prisons so that violent criminals without being subject to our laws, are released to come back here, same as what President-Elect Donald Trump said, those countries did. If you support what he said as a candidate, it is at odds with what you support, now.
No, send the scum back, and build the wall.
 
No confidence, no trust, no respect for the orange bag O' shit. Couldn't care less whether he lives or dies.
 
Here's the rub. If it weren't for Democrats paying for them to come here and stay here, 99% of them wouldn't bother to come here in the first place.

They're only coming here to escape prison in their home countries. And they know we'll take care of them.

I guess you also forgot about all of the millions of criminals that Dems released during COVID, claiming they'd be safe running around raping and murdering citizens.
That definitely applies to all the ones that came here (though border jumpers), simply wanting to take advantage of Joe immigration EO to raise families, seeking better life in our country.

The criminal elements (whether intentionally released for that purpose or not (which I kind of doubt), came here to make a profit, preying on a looser, more target rich, American environment. If they commit crimes violent crimes here, they should be punished here, respecting the victims.

You are mixing issues, now. This thread was really about Jack Smith and Trump charges.
 
You still wilfully don't understand. Trump will be victorious because the Apellate Court will throw out the convictions as an abomination of law, a corruption of the legal system, and a clear violation of the Constitution.
That the appellate could throw out the charges is true. That the appellate is going to say the convictions are an abomination of the law and corruption of the New York legal system, is unlikely. I don't see New York invalidating their legal system, setting precedent, politicians are free to ignore laws on the books, if running for office on a National Ticket. It would be the ultimate get out of legal trouble for crimes card, for anybody that can mount a national campaign, namely the super rich, giving carte blanche to white collar crime of the top moneyed percentage of the country.
 
That the appellate could throw out the charges is true. That the appellate is going to say the convictions are an abomination of the law and corruption of the New York legal system, is unlikely. I don't see New York invalidating their legal system, setting precedent, politicians are free to ignore laws on the books, if running for office on a National Ticket. It would be the ultimate get out of legal trouble for crimes card, for anybody that can mount a national campaign, namely the super rich, giving carte blanche to white collar crime of the top moneyed percentage of the country.
The questioning that has already happened, and the responses prove you to be wrong.
 
That definitely applies to all the ones that came here (though border jumpers), simply wanting to take advantage of Joe immigration EO to raise families, seeking better life in our country.

The criminal elements (whether intentionally released for that purpose or not (which I kind of doubt), came here to make a profit, preying on a looser, more target rich, American environment. If they commit crimes violent crimes here, they should be punished here, respecting the victims.

You are mixing issues, now. This thread was really about Jack Smith and Trump charges.
I'm not mixing issues. There's nothing stopping Democrats from granting amnesty to every illegal we put in prison.

The only rational solution is deportation and preventing anyone from paying for their room and board if they come back.

When YOU finally drop the biased political BS and start thinking rationally, maybe you'll see it.
 
That the appellate could throw out the charges is true. That the appellate is going to say the convictions are an abomination of the law and corruption of the New York legal system, is unlikely. I don't see New York invalidating their legal system, setting precedent, politicians are free to ignore laws on the books, if running for office on a National Ticket. It would be the ultimate get out of legal trouble for crimes card, for anybody that can mount a national campaign, namely the super rich, giving carte blanche to white collar crime of the top moneyed percentage of the country.
New York invalidated their legal system by allowing prosecutors to be put in office that only enforce the law when they want to.

New York is a cesspool of corruption right now, thanks to George Soros and his money.
 
The questioning that has already happened, and the responses prove you to be wrong.
I'll wait for the ruling, rather than your projection.
 
I'll wait for the ruling, rather than your projection.
Feel free. I understand the law better than political hacks, that is quite apparent.
 
Feel free. I understand the law better than political hacks, that is quite apparent.
Thanks. I was unaware of your law degree and experience in the courts, thinking you were giving opinion, not your position as a newly anointed non-partisan legal authority.
 
Thanks. I was unaware of your law degree and experience in the courts, thinking you were giving opinion, not your position as a newly anointed non-partisan legal authority.
You're unaware of most things it appears.
 
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