I've had TDS since fifth grade.

[Eman623]

If they're prone to willful delusion, yes.

What other kind of delusion is there?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I was young, dumb and .... but I got over it.

Got it.Finally, name a politician and then disavow him.

I'm hearing from sources that you will never, ever name an actual human being in the current day that you would support for president.

Will you confirm those sources by continuing to refuse to name such a person?

 

[dblack]

Got it.Finally, name a politician and then disavow him.

I'm hearing from sources that you will never, ever name an actual human being in the current day that you would support for president.

I try to avoid this wedge because it's almost always an attempt to derail discussion. It's saying that, if I can't provide you with a better alternative, you're going to vote for a bad candidate anyway. Which entirely misses the point.

Regardless, I've stated repeatedly that I'd happily vote for Justin Amash. There are others, but again, that's not the point. I'm not telling you who to vote for. I'm asking people to stop voting for bad candidates just because they're afraid of worse candidates. Just because it's all the two-party systems "offers" you. It's a losing game.

The sad irony is that there are voting reforms that nullify the lesser-of-two-evils conceit. Naturally, the beneficiaries of the lesser-of-two-evils trap, the two parties who set the trap, vigorously oppose those reforms.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I try to avoid this wedge because it's almost always an attempt to derail discussion. It's saying that, if I can't provide you with a better alternative, you're going to vote for a bad candidate anyway. Which entirely misses the point.

But there is not much of a point to discuss, if you do not anticipate the first most obvious question.

"I think all of the current Reps and Dems suck and we should not vote for any of them, even if we think one sucks worse than the other!"

"Okay, who should we vote for?"

"Oh my GAWD! WHAT an unFAIR and unEXPECTED question!

Regardless, I've stated repeatedly that I'd happily vote for Justin Amash. There are others, but again, that's not the point. I'm not telling you who to vote for. I'm asking people to stop voting for bad candidates just because they're afraid of worse candidates. Just because it's all the two-party systems "offers" you. It's a losing game.

The sad irony is that there are voting reforms that nullify the lesser-of-two-evils conceit. Naturally, the beneficiaries of the lesser-of-two-evils trap, the two parties who set the trap, vigorously oppose those reforms.

Amash isn't fit for the office of President, due to inexperience, and inability to get along with others (likely a function of that inexperience). Not to mention that he couldn't even hold on to his Congressional seat, so he has little chance of being elected.

But, as far as I know, he is as morally pure as Jimmy Carter, if that's what you're looking for.

Of course . . . we wouldn't know. Not until he was in a position to either win, or be a serious spoiler. Then we'd likely find him as flawed as anyone else.

 

[dblack]

But there is not much of a point to discuss, if you do not anticipate the first most obvious question.

"I think all of the current Reps and Dems suck and we should not vote for any of them, even if we think one sucks worse than the other!"

"Okay, who should we vote for?"

"Oh my GAWD! WHAT an unFAIR and unEXPECTED question!


Amash isn't fit for the office of President, due to inexperience, and inability to get along with others (likely a function of that inexperience). Not to mention that he couldn't even hold on to his Congressional seat, so he has little chance of being elected.

But, as far as I know, he is as morally pure as Jimmy Carter, if that's what you're looking for.

Of course . . . we wouldn't know. Not until he was in a position to either win, or be a serious spoiler. Then we'd likely find him as flawed as anyone else.

 

[TNHarley]

Just say -

No, I did not understand

 

[Billiejeens]

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Just say it.

 

[TNHarley]

Just say it.

 

[dudmuck]

No, I thought about it. Dumb ass put a tariff on an island with only a population of penguins.
You might think that was "the art of the deal" but to people with a brain a lack of addiction to the orange one, know it made him and us look like goddamn fools.

 

[Seymour Flops]

We do not choose the "lessor of two evils."

Because during the primaries, out choices are limited only to the number of people eligible to run for President or whatever office we are concerned about. Voters are able to participate in either primary and choose Bernie Sanders, or Rand Paul, or whoever they think is a better candidate than the more mainstream choices of either party.

We saw that in 2016, in which traditional Republicans tried to beat the outsider Trump, but the people had their say. If they were somehow delusional in their choice, that is a flaw in the voters, not a flaw in the system. Democrats and "not Democrats" disdain the voters and then wonder why the voters don't vote for them.

The confusion may come from the 2016, and 2024 Democratic primaries, in which the DNC first threw their weight behind one candidate, essentially become that candidate's primary campaign, and then in 2024, simply ignored the will of the voters, forced the voters' choice to resign from the race and selected the DNC candidate to be on the ballots.

That's where the anger should be directed, not at the American people for who they choose, but at the DNC or any other organization that interferes with that choice. Refusing to participate in the primary process and then complaining about the choices other voters make is not very productive.

 

[dblack]

We do not choose the "lessor of two evils."

Because during the primaries, out choices are limited only to the number of people eligible to run for President or whatever office we are concerned about. Voters are able to participate in either primary and choose Bernie Sanders, or Rand Paul, or whoever they think is a better candidate than the more mainstream choices of either party.

We saw that in 2016, in which traditional Republicans tried to beat the outsider Trump, but the people had their say. If they were somehow delusional in their choice, that is a flaw in the voters, not a flaw in the system. Democrats and "not Democrats" disdain the voters and then wonder why the voters don't vote for them.

The confusion may come from the 2016, and 2024 Democratic primaries, in which the DNC first threw their weight behind one candidate, essentially become that candidate's primary campaign, and then in 2024, simply ignored the will of the voters, forced the voters' choice to resign from the race and selected the DNC candidate to be on the ballots.

That's where the anger should be directed, not at the American people for who they choose, but at the DNC or any other organization that interferes with that choice. Refusing to participate in the primary process and then complaining about the choices other voters make is not very productive.

Stay the course!

 

[whitehall]

Proof that TDS is a mental illness.