Its time to shit or get off the pot, Mr President

Ill look around to see if I can find some fu.cks to give whether you believe me or not.

If you dont understand my point then you are wasting my time.

mudwhistle Were you still there when that guy shot the mortar round at the Tanker?
Do not get so upset. I am not alleging I do not believe you. I merely noted that, apart from yourself, the anecdote has, at least so far, not been corroborated.

However, you still not explained why you think an incident that occurred off the coast of Somalia is relevant to the situation in Iran.
 
I still feel these ceasefires a mistake, and we should still be pounding them daily,
I agree. We started out strong and fully in control, but now Iran is getting back into the game. Evidently we underestimated their desire to reach a fair deal with minimal damage. I say pound them hard for another 2 weeks targeting everything that can weaken their economy. I also think we should pave a way to enter the strait and take full control of it. I think Trump is trying to fight nice for the optics, but it will not resolve this conflict. Strategically, Iran really is just a pawn in the international chess game. If we capture it we will improve our overall position. Or do we want that pawn supporting our bigger enemies?
 
Do not get so upset. I am not alleging I do not believe you. I merely noted that, apart from yourself, the anecdote has, at least so far, not been corroborated.

However, you still not explained why you think an incident that occurred off the coast of Somalia is relevant to the situation in Iran.
Jebus.

Ok. Just once. A Fanatic or Man with that kind of Brass Balls cant be Negotiated with at all.

They dont care whether they live or die.

Hardliners in Iran are the same.
 
Seems like he got himself into this mess without any kind of long-term plan.

He pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal without considering the implications.
 
Seems like he got himself into this mess without any kind of long-term plan.

He pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal without considering the implications.
Yeah. Handing over billiins was such a great idea

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Yeah. Handing over billiins was such a great idea

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It’s easy to shit on plans of your political rivals without providing an adequate alternative option. Americans aren’t exactly thrilled with this “plan”.


 
It’s easy to shit on plans of your political rivals without providing an adequate alternative option. Americans aren’t exactly thrilled with this “plan”.


Ahout 20000 reasons why I agree with current policy
 

The mullahs ruling Iran are not going to give up nukes

Its time for regime change

Make it happen Donald Trump
Personally, I think Trump is doing great on the subject. Iran wants a deal badly and Trump keeps on putting them off - AKA - using Iran's very own strategy against them, stringing it out and stringing it out and stringing it out. Eventually, Iran will crack and start the war back up and then Trump can say we are only defending ourselves when he bombs the living shit out of them again. And, if Iran continues attacks on their gulf neighbors, those neighbors may join in on our fight against Iran, with several of them signing the Abraham Accords. Meanwhile, Israel is elminating Hezbollah during Trump's stringing it out.
 
Personally, I think Trump is doing great on the subject. Iran wants a deal badly and Trump keeps on putting them off - AKA - using Iran's very own strategy against them, stringing it out and stringing it out and stringing it out. Eventually, Iran will crack and start the war back up and then Trump can say we are only defending ourselves when he bombs the living shit out of them again. And, if Iran continues attacks on their gulf neighbors, those neighbors may join in on our fight against Iran, with several of them signing the Abraham Accords. Meanwhile, Israel is elminating Hezbollah during Trump's stringing it out.
I thought Iran was an immediate existential threat to Israel, why are they Gazafying Lebanon?
 
Jebus.

Ok. Just once. A Fanatic or Man with that kind of Brass Balls cant be Negotiated with at all.

They dont care whether they live or die.

Hardliners in Iran are the same.
Oh is that the line of argument you were attempting to make?

However, we already know that the Iranian regime is fanatical, and since Trump's little excursion has become even more hardline, and does not give the proverbial for its own population.
 
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Personally, I think Trump is doing great on the subject. Iran wants a deal badly and Trump keeps on putting them off - AKA - using Iran's very own strategy against them, stringing it out and stringing it out and stringing it out. Eventually, Iran will crack and start the war back up and then Trump can say we are only defending ourselves when he bombs the living shit out of them again. And, if Iran continues attacks on their gulf neighbors, those neighbors may join in on our fight against Iran, with several of them signing the Abraham Accords. Meanwhile, Israel is elminating Hezbollah during Trump's stringing it out.
If this costs the House and Senate in the midterms, then it is not worth it. Republicans do not have forever like Progressives do. Their time is limited to do the work needed. For we keep moving leftward as the Democrats keep moving in the same direction. It is difficult enough to get some of the legislation passed with Republicans.
 
If the mullahs are allowed to build nuclear weapons they are sure to use them

And that will lead to your worst fear of wiping out the entire iranian population

Nevermind the western deaths which I suspect you dont care about at all

But what happens to your muslim pet minority should give you some pause
Hilarious

And culty
 
If this costs the House and Senate in the midterms, then it is not worth it. Republicans do not have forever like Progressives do. Their time is limited to do the work needed. For we keep moving leftward as the Democrats keep moving in the same direction. It is difficult enough to get some of the legislation passed with Republicans.
Iran has been needing taking out for a very long time. I'm actually proud of the "No New Wars" Trump for caring more about the future of the US than about short term political gain. But, yes, this may very well hurt Republican chances in the midterms. While that sucks, Iran was a very severe long term threat to the entire world. The stronger they get the harder to take them out later and no one else would have had the balls to do it.
 
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