Its time to shit or get off the pot, Mr President

[otto105]

How so. That was on the news.

Did your news include the oil tankers that move from Iran to China?

 

[eagle1462010]

Did your news include the oil tankers that move from Iran to China?

Thats one that got hit.

 

[yidnar]

Trump might be waiting for the right spot to take them out.

more likely its factions within the severely damaged regime that are disagreeing .. there is probably an internal struggle for power going on in Iran .. that's why we hear Iran has agreed to the demands of the US while at the same time factions within the Nazi state claim otherwise ..

 

[Dorian Mode]

"nuclear war is not necessary"

Most of Iran's population doesn't want a theocratic regime ruling them, however the theocratic regime has control of the military and most of the effective weapons within that country.

There is no quick and easy solution that will produce the best and more desired long term results.

It's becoming apparent that Iran is a military regime hiding behind a theocratic veil. I don't think the mullahs were ever in charge. Religion is an easier way to control the daily lives of people than armies. Then the army just has to control the religion. Sort of like how America is really a Plutocracy hiding behind a veil of Democracy. The government seems like it is for the people, but it really is there to keep the poor from eating the rich.

 

[otto105]

Thats one that got hit.

Just one.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

The ones who are making the decisions are idiots.

Says an imbecile. You have no clue what intel they're looking at.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

The government seems like it is for the people, but it really is there to keep the poor from eating the rich.

Pretty much the reality now. Chain stores and food places everywhere, no starter homes being built, even service industry jobs going away.

 

[Dorian Mode]

The ones who are making the decisions are idiots.

Yeah, says all forum trolls. I'm pretty sure those idiots are looking at forum trolls thinking "What idiots!"

 

[San Souci]

Iran nuclear deal negotiations (2025–26) | United States, Trump, Obama, Snapback Sanctions, Program, & Weapons | Britannica

The Iran nuclear deal negotiations initiated in 2025 under U.S. Pres. Donald Trump seek to limit Iran’s nuclear program and military ambitions after Trump scrapped an earlier deal in 2018.

www.britannica.com

The mullahs ruling Iran are not going to give up nukes

Its time for regime change

Make it happen Donald Trump

Yes-- Time to Wipe out the Gay Ayatollah and ALL of the Islamic Revolution--Shia Sect.

 

[Stryder50]

WE don't have access to the intel, so aren't in any position to judge what is really going on anyway. We can wait and let those who do make the decisions. We know that no matter what it is, the deviants and dregs will snivel and bed wet, and then have their Party sabotage any deal and make sure the maximum number of people die, then gloat over their achievement.

Some of "us" have access and can also deduce from available open sources/information. And in a position to judge what is really going on much better than most of the MSM~LameStreamMedia.

Agreed that the political Left of our nation will sabotage any deals just so the GOP/Trump look ineffective. Along the way the Left will worsen conditions for a lasting and just peace for the people of Iran, but wash their hands of the deviance they have performed.

 

[Stryder50]

"nuclear war is not necessary"

Most of Iran's population doesn't want a theocratic regime ruling them, however the theocratic regime has control of the military and most of the effective weapons within that country.

There is no quick and easy solution that will produce the best and more desired long term results.

BTW folks, I'm not saying there is "No Solution".

Just that such is not quick and easy if we want Iran left in better condition and with a more positive future. Such a solution requires cleansing out of the theocracy, and removal of its minions. Followed by hard and dedicated work by those Iranians serious to build a better and prosperous nation ready to join the World and the 21st century, not wallow back into the 8th century.

 

[Stryder50]

It's becoming apparent that Iran is a military regime hiding behind a theocratic veil. I don't think the mullahs were ever in charge. Religion is an easier way to control the daily lives of people than armies. Then the army just has to control the religion. Sort of like how America is really a Plutocracy hiding behind a veil of Democracy. The government seems like it is for the people, but it really is there to keep the poor from eating the rich.

I don't think our nation started out that way, but it has evolved into such.
I see it as entropy of sorts since most all governments, no matter the form/type, seem to devolve into tools for an elite minority to rule, use, and abuse the majority.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I don't think our nation started out that way, but it has evolved into such.
I see it as entropy of sorts since most all governments, no matter the form/type, seem to devolve into tools for an elite minority to rule, use, and abuse the majority.

This tendency goes all the way back to the egyptian pharaohs. The way they do it is to get a large enough percentage of the population to support "the establishment." Like the dumocraps do today. They dumocrap voters don't even realize they are supporting the establishment because they are tricked into hating anti-establishment Trump, thus supporting the establishment. People don't remember, but the old school democrats, like Trump, used to be fiercely anti-establishment, but they could never win enough elections because the establishment controlled all the money. After Reagan they gave up, went full pro-establishment, and started using mindfuckery to convince gullible people to vote for them.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

I don't think our nation started out that way, but it has evolved into such.
I see it as entropy of sorts since most all governments, no matter the form/type, seem to devolve into tools for an elite minority to rule, use, and abuse the majority.

Hence Jefferson's tongue in cheek reference to a' revolution every 20 years'; not really a call to violence every 20 years, just a 'refreshment' of core values.

I think the increasing urbanization has had a lot more to do with the entropy than any other single cause; it leads to anonymity and corruption of human values and empathy and the 'dog eat dog' mentality, and a general decline in both public and private moral standards. A lot of people who can afford to move back to small towns and villages when they can afford to.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

This tendency goes all the way back to the egyptian pharaohs. The way they do it is to get a large enough percentage of the population to support "the establishment."

Probably. Ancient Hebrews as an example didn't take to the while idea of 'Kings' until major outside military threats kind of forced them into adopting a 'monarchy' and having to raise and fund a standing army to fight the Philistines. That didn't blend well with the theocratic democracy among their tribal confederation very well, and it went downhill from there to rule by elites and corruption of their traditional reliance on Prophets as leaders and judges and their legal theology as a guide. This pattern hit other tribes and cultures earlier, but probably for the same reasons. Republican forms are the best of the bad choices, but when your education system is taken over by hostiles who hate their own country and people and allowed to run amuck for decades, don't be surprised when your traditions and law and order eventually collapse.

Don't expect a quick and easy solution.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Russia

Why does Russia need Iranian oil?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Pretty much the reality now. Chain stores and food places everywhere, no starter homes being built, even service industry jobs going away.

What's a starter home? One that is older and already built. You can't afford a brand new home anymore because of increased costs for labor and materials.

 

[Hypatia415]

Its time for regime change

Make it happen Donald Trump

How?

 

[Godboy]

donny said he 'obliterated' iran back in june.

donny lied.

bigley.

I dont see Irans airforce or navy, do YOU?

 

[Godboy]

How?

Ground invasion. It would literally just take a few weeks, tops.