It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[metalwolf]

 

[Stann]

Finally, a government action that moves closer to Christian principles instead of away from them. When we ban artificial birth control and gay marriage, we will definitely be going in the right direction.

Ultimately, I hope we can amend the ill-advised promotion of government atheism under the guise of 'separation of church and state'. I'm pushing for the Christian amendment.
"America will heretofore never violate the teachings of the Catholic Church".

When you're bad all those things, America will cease to be America anymore. It will be a totalitarian, fascist state where people live in fear and hatred is spread instead of love. Some dream Christian Nation you want to create there.

 

[Stann]

The thing I find most amusing is the OP's choice of the RCC as the focal point.

There are so many protestant churches and denominations that will fight against the RCC being the head of our nation.

Southern Baptists in particular will shoot this down.

Christian center hate each other even more than they hate the minorities amongst them.

 

[flacaltenn]

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

Examples:
Forcing Christian groups to pay for abortions and birth control for their employees.
Forcing Christian florists, photographers, and bakers to participate in gay weddings.
Distributing condoms in government schools to teens and preteens, suggesting that sex among these immature and obviously unmarried students is morally acceptable.
Using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions abroad.
Banning the Ten Commandments from government buildings (while flying the rainbow flag).
Banning the Nativity Scenes from government buildings.
Government sanction of Kwanzaa celebrations (a made-up racist ‘holiday’).
Disallowing references to Christmas in the public schools.
Teaching Critical Race Theory (which divides people and promotes hate).
Allowing gay marriage.

This is why the left screeches so loudly about “keeping religion out of government”. It’s because they know their atheism gets free reign if it doesn’t have to compete against Christianity.

The solution is two part: First, BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land. Then we end the abortion debate, the race-baiting issue, and the anti-capitalist pro-socialist issue once and for all. The country would once again be following God’s plan, church attendance would rise again, couples would marry instead of cohabitating, the gay marriage ruling would be repealed, families would stay together and be stronger, children would grow up in two-parent homes, so there would be far less crime. And best of all, ALL Marixst atheist disinformation would be stifled, and our children would stop being poisoned by it.

Let’s do it NOW!!

What do you think that would achieve other than NULLIFYING one of founding principles of our Constitution? PERHAPS the concentration should be on STEMMING the loss of people who ATTEND/SUPPORT Christian churches instead. Very very bad idea.

There's a diff between acknowledging the Christian dominance in the founding and messing with the fact that the Christians who WROTE the founding documents -- were adamantly OPPOSED to "state declared religions". Was a good idea THEN -- it STILL IS !!!!

 

[WinterBorn]

What do you think that would achieve other than NULLIFYING one of founding principles of our Constitution? PERHAPS the concentration should be on STEMMING the loss of people who ATTEND/SUPPORT Christian churches instead. Very very bad idea.

There's a diff between acknowledging the Christian dominance in the founding and messing with the fact that the Christians who WROTE the founding documents -- were adamantly OPPOSED to "state declared religions". Was a good idea THEN -- it STILL IS !!!!

Well said.

 

[Mashmont]

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I'm a conservative Christian and I don't oppose teaching evolution in the shools, I believe in equal rights for women. But I don't believe in fairy tales like manmade global warming. But unlike Muslim radicals, Christians do not believe in violent protests.

But just for fun, let's do a comparison between radical Muslims and the atheist Left:
Both advocate violent protests.
Both devalue human life
Both have murdered tens of thousands in recent years.
Both treat women as second-class citizens.
Both want to silence and destroy those who don't share their beliefs.
Both despise capitalism.
Both despise President Trump.
Both believe their religion should be taught in school.

Wow, this was really easy.

 

[Mashmont]

What do you think that would achieve other than NULLIFYING one of founding principles of our Constitution? PERHAPS the concentration should be on STEMMING the loss of people who ATTEND/SUPPORT Christian churches instead. Very very bad idea.

There's a diff between acknowledging the Christian dominance in the founding and messing with the fact that the Christians who WROTE the founding documents -- were adamantly OPPOSED to "state declared religions". Was a good idea THEN -- it STILL IS !!!!

I have explained this is in my OP. I oppose the law requiring separation of church of state because it is impossible to do. And when you try to exclude Christianity from all laws, you end up with godless laws. So, in effect, the government is pushing atheism, as with abortion and gay marriage. And so since pushing atheism is the least desirable of outcomes, and since you have to push something, you should push the best outcome which is Christianity.

 

[Mashmont]

When you're bad all those things, America will cease to be America anymore. It will be a totalitarian, fascist state where people live in fear and hatred is spread instead of love. Some dream Christian Nation you want to create there.

You are describing nations which ban Christianity from the government. You are describing atheist Communist countries.

 

[Mashmont]

Fuck the Catholic Church, and to Hell with all the Pedophile Priests it harbors. This nation, Christian, or not will never revert to the savagery of the Catholic Church.

So which of the five officially atheist nations in the world would you prefer to move to? North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, China, or Cuba?

 

[Mashmont]

Some people might not like the idea of a nation run by fairytales and imaginary beings.

There is no bigger sky fairy than the climate change sky fairy.

 

[WinterBorn]

So which of the five officially atheist nations in the world would you prefer to move to? North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, China, or Cuba?

How about he just stays in this country and we abide by the US Constitution?

 

[flacaltenn]

I have explained this is in my OP. I oppose the law requiring separation of church of state because it is impossible to do. And when you try to exclude Christianity from all laws, you end up with godless laws. So, in effect, the government is pushing atheism, as with abortion and gay marriage. And so since pushing atheism is the least desirable of outcomes, and since you have to push something, you should push the best outcome which is Christianity.

sorry man. Judaism isn't godless. Neither is Islam. We dont have a nation BUILT to allow one religion as the ESTABLISHED religion. Besides, we already know that most of UGLIEST STUFF IN HISTORY happened BECAUSE of Church/State monopolies. Do I need to list these for you? Start with the Inquisition, add the Crusades, the Ottoman Empire, and all the "modern" medieval THEOCRACIES that exist in the Middle East.

The FOUNDERS were largely RENEGADE Christian sects FLEEING PERSECUTION. So -- how do YOU guarantee that the Baptists wont be MARCHING on Catholics and everyone NOT Christian has to pick a side in that RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL war?

 

[Mashmont]

sorry man. Judaism isn't godless. Neither is Islam. We dont have a nation BUILT to allow one religion as the ESTABLISHED religion. Besides, we already know that most of UGLIEST STUFF IN HISTORY happened BECAUSE of Church/State monopolies. Do I need to list these for you? Start with the Inquisition, add the Crusades, the Ottoman Empire, and all the "modern" medieval THEOCRACIES that exist in the Middle East.

The FOUNDERS were largely RENEGADE Christian sects FLEEING PERSECUTION. So -- how do YOU guarantee that the Baptists wont be MARCHING on Catholics and everyone NOT Christian has to pick a side in that RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL war?

No, the ugliest stuff in the world happened because of atheist governments. 150 million killed in the last century. More than all religions combined in the history of the world. Do I need to list these for you? Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro.

 

[Mashmont]

I will say I am extremely heartened by the abortion ruling Friday. That gives me hope that we can indeed move to becoming a Christian nation. Thank you to the Catholic conservatives on the court for making this happen. They have proven their spine and courage in the face of violent hatred by the left. They need to go full throttle now and:

1. Declare personhood for the unborn, thereby banning all abortions nationwide
2 Reverse the gay marriage ruling
3. Reverse the birth control ruling.
4. Keep the pedal to the metal on religious freedom

They have a chance of achieving the very agenda I lay out in the OP. Ultimately, I hope we can be declared a Catholic nation which means the most moral nation possible Things are going in that direction, thankfully.

 

[flacaltenn]

So which of the five officially atheist nations in the world would you prefer to move to? North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, China, or Cuba?

How are you confused by the diff between NO GOD and America? Seems implausible to me. We have RELIGIOUS freedom here. It's IN DECLINE of public acceptance. That means the MESSAGING from religious sect leaders needs to IMPROVE. EVERY religion is facing this.

The ANSWER is teaching GENERAL TOLERANCE to the youth. NOW -- they are taught IDENTITIES and FRICTIONS. For the purpose of DESTROYING the moral culture of America. LED by one of two awful choices of parties we have in America.

We have a POLITICAL problem -- NOT a shortage of pastors, priests, rabbis, Quaker leaders and imams. THIS is the reason we dont recognize the morals/ethics that are being taught to our children. OPEN MORE RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS. Problem solved.

 

[Mashmont]

How are you confused by the diff between NO GOD and America? Seems implausible to me. We have RELIGIOUS freedom here. It's IN DECLINE of public acceptance. That means the MESSAGING from religious sect leaders needs to IMPROVE. EVERY religion is facing this.

The ANSWER is teaching GENERAL TOLERANCE to the youth. NOW -- they are taught IDENTITIES and FRICTIONS. For the purpose of DESTROYING the moral culture of America. LED by one of two awful choices of parties we have in America.

We have a POLITICAL problem -- NOT a shortage of pastors, priests, rabbis, Quaker leaders and imams.

I will say, up until the current court, we were moving towards atheism. It is ONLY because of this court we are hanging by a thread to Christianity. Hopefully they will be enough to reverse the trend. Make no mistake. A LOT of hearts and minds will be turned away from abortion because of this ruling. It's the most important thing that could have been done.

 

[flacaltenn]

I will say, up until the current court, we were moving towards atheism. It is ONLY because of this court we are hanging by a thread to Christianity. Hopefully they will be enough to reverse the trend. Make no mistake. A LOT of hearts and minds will be turned away from abortion because of this ruling. It's the most important thing that could have been done.

The court only decides on what's in the Constitution. That's what the overturn was about. But the court is NOT on your side here. Because the problem isn't the Constitution, the problem is POLITICAL activism to move more towards Marxism or other socialist offshoots that denigrate and try to NEGATE any power or rights of religion. Even normally leftist voting Jews now recognize this and are defecting from that party.

Never expect much progress from the Federal govt,. DONT WORSHIP IT. And dont expect it to WORSHIP YOU. It's not a buddy or woke "ally" or power to CONTROL morals/ethics.

 

[surada]

The thing I find most amusing is the OP's choice of the RCC as the focal point.

There are so many protestant churches and denominations that will fight against the RCC being the head of our nation.

Southern Baptists in particular will shoot this down.

Southern Baptists are no better than the Catholic Church church.. both oppose abortion and both give cover to pedophiles.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

There's a diff between acknowledging the Christian dominance in the founding and messing with the fact that the Christians who WROTE the founding documents

I agree with everything you said except for repeating the misconception that it was Christians who wrote the founding documents. The founders including the first five presidents would not be considered to be what the white nationalist evangelical and militant Catholic Christians define as Christians In America today.

Washington was a Mason.. Adams was a Unitarian, Jefferson was absolutely opposed all the hocus-pocus, salvation in the blood of Jesus Christianity. He was constantly at odds with the preacher class.

The mother of all right wing foundational big lies is that America was founded as a Christian nation. We are now suffering setbacks in freedom and liberty of religion because that lie has not been successfully put to rest.

Some studies I’ve seen based on the number of church pews in colonial America about the time of the revolution indicates that only about 13% of the colonial population attended a church. So I don’t even buy that the whole population was majority Christian. I remember reading a biography of Daniel Boone know there was something in there about him being asked if he was a Christian goes well Yep I guess I’m a Christian my mama told me I was a Christian so I guess I’m a Christian. I think that’s typical how it was in those days. In the 1800 turn-of-the-century Americans religion was getting some land and building their lives on the frontier.

 

[Mashmont]

The court only decides on what's in the Constitution. That's what the overturn was about. But the court is NOT on your side here. Because the problem isn't the Constitution, the problem is POLITICAL activism to move more towards Marxism or other socialist offshoots that denigrate and try to NEGATE any power or rights of religion. Even normally leftist voting Jews now recognize this and are defecting from that party.

Never expect much progress from the Federal govt,. DONT WORSHIP IT. And dont expect it to WORSHIP YOU. It's not a buddy or woke "ally" or power to CONTROL morals/ethics.

Oh, believe me, I do not worship the government. Far from it. But I want a government that promotes the best outcomes for people. Most of the time, that's done by staying out of the way, but other times it's done by keeping destructive forces, like atheist policies, from affecting people's lives.