It’s TACO Time For Greenland After Trump Flops At Davos

[Nostra]

Trump ends 8 wars.

Tater invites Putin to invade Ukraine.

But Trump is destabilizing.

 

[Billiejeens]

The only thing I can figure is that Trump Haters as a group do not understand the concept of hard negotiations.

Their concept of negotiating consists of -

Filling out a form - asking when their benefits will start coming.

 

[Marener]

So you have no idea where electricity comes from.

Got it.

1% of Germany's energy production comes from oil. It's in the link I gave you.

 

[Mac-7]

And there's another truth: if great powers abandon even the pretense of rules and values for the unhindered pursuit of their power and interests, the gains from "transactionalism" will become harder to replicate. Hegemons cannot continually monetize their relationships.

That one was aimed squarely at Dotard and landed like a right cross.

I agree that trump could be more diplomatic at times because the Euros are proud and thin-skinned

But he is correct on the issues

 

[rightwinger]

What the hell makes you think THAT? He had to bluff a war in order to get bases.


Thats not what the Washington Post said. They didnt say "he gets access to minerals rights that everyone already has access to".

The bases were always available if we wanted to redeploy troops there

Mineral rights are a big question right now.
Not because Greenland does not want to give them but because those minerals are not accessible

 

[Orangecat]

Let me be direct: We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition.

 

[berg80]

I agree that trump could be more diplomatic at times because the Euros are proud and thin-skinned

But he is correct on the issues

He's dead wrong, as you well know.

 

[Mac-7]

What I responded to:



That's enough of your stupidity for one day.

See post #111

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[berg80]

My head is not buried in the sand, I am just in touch with reality. The reality is the US consumer is far to powerful for them to ignore. The nominal GDP of all 27 countries that make up the EU is 20 trillion as compared to the US' 30.5 trillion. That is 1.5 times bigger. This is just the economics of it. Militarily, they can't compete either. The only real advantage they would have over the US would be manpower because the EU is very densely populated vs the US.

It is almost as if you lefties are ignorant of America's power and influence in the world.

trump's absurd view of things, adopted by trumples, sees the US as having been taken advantage of when it fact it has arguably been the biggest beneficiary of the world order it helped create.

 

[Bitterhook]

I agree that trump could be more diplomatic at times because the Euros are proud and thin-skinned

But he is correct on the issues

"Big Stick Diplomacy" isn't quite about being nice, and leverage really only has value in the real world if you make everyone aware of the fact you will use it.

If it works, it will produce results you are satisfied with, while allowing those you are negotiating with to save face by insisting you failed to destroy the planet, and do everything they were scared you would do.

 

[AntonToo]

December 2024, the world was perfect.

Everything bad occurring on Earth is the fault of Trump.

Trump is a dumb ****….WHO RULES THE WORLD.

You communists are hilarious.

What a braindead post.

Nobody said everything was perfect and in no way does that strawman nonsense refutes that Trump is causing serious damage.

 

[MarathonMike]

Their concept of negotiating consists of -

Filling out a form - asking when their benefits will start coming.

It makes you wonder if there is a high correlation between entitlement and Trump hate.

 

[Mac-7]

He's dead wrong, as you well know.

The US economy is blowing the Euros away

Trump knows what he’s doing

 

[Rawley]

Essentially everything Trump says and does is done so to make himself "feel" strong. Part of that is constantly punching down.

What he clearly doesn't understand is that world macroeconomics are changing. Countries now have other options.

He and the flock want to hide like scared pansies. The world is now beginning to say, okay, go ahead. More of that to come.

WTF are you ranting about? What "other options" do countries have that they didn't have two years ago?

Who is hiding and how? $10 you hide and won't explain this rant.

 

[westwall]

Here are some excerpts from what I believe will be the seminal speech of our time.

Today, I'll talk about the rupture in the world order, the end of a nice story and the beginning of a brutal reality where geopolitics among the great powers is not subject to any constraints. But I also submit to you that other countries, particularly middle powers like Canada, are not powerless. They have the capacity to build a new order that embodies our values, like respect for human rights, sustainable development, solidarity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of states.
It seems that every day we're reminded that we live in an era of great power rivalry. That the rules-based order is fading. That the strong can do what they can, and the weak must suffer what they must. This aphorism of Thucydides is presented as inevitable — as the natural logic of international relations reasserting itself. And faced with this logic, there is a strong tendency for countries to go along to get along. To accommodate. To avoid trouble. To hope that compliance will buy safety. It won't.

Havel called this "living within a lie." The system's power comes not from its truth but from everyone's willingness to perform as if it were true. And its fragility comes from the same source: when even one person stops performing — when the greengrocer removes his sign — the illusion begins to crack.

Friends, it is time for companies and countries to take their signs down.
But more recently, great powers have begun using economic integration as weapons. Tariffs as leverage. Financial infrastructure as coercion. Supply chains as vulnerabilities to be exploited.

You cannot "live within the lie" of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination.

The multilateral institutions on which middle powers have relied — the WTO, the UN, the COP — the very architecture of collective problem solving, are under threat.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-speech-davos-rules-based-order-9.7053350

Everyone should read that speech in its entirety. It's a masterpiece, cutting through the constant gaslighting of the trump regime and exposing its affect on the world with devastating clarity.

Let me be direct: We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition.

One lead by a moral degenerate with a singular goal in mind, unbridled power for himself.

Carney, the asshole who wants a one world government under Chinese control?

**** that piece of shit.

 

[Mac-7]

"Big Stick Diplomacy" isn't quite about being nice, and leverage really only has value in the real world if you make everyone aware of the fact you will use it.

If it works, it will produce results you are satisfied with, while allowing those you are negotiating with to save face by insisting you failed.

It only works if the Euros play along

Libs are not above cutting off their nose to spite their face

See the German attitude toward the climate change doomsday hoax

 

[Billiejeens]

It makes you wonder if there is a high correlation between entitlement and Trump hate.

I dont belive that one needs to wonder about that.

 

[Delldude]

Trump is, to use Western Pennsylvania parlance, a "jag-off." He says stupid, provocative shit, for reasons that only he fully understands. But ultimately, he usually gets what he wants, and he will do so in Greenland. The Chinese and Russians will be shunned on that God-forsaken island, and we - NATO and the U.S. - will be able to exploit its location in our mutual defense.

Seriously, what else is there to know about it?

Yinz makin' a good point.

 

[ColonelAngus]

What a braindead post.

Nobody said everything was perfect and in no way does that strawman nonsense refutes that Trump is causing serious damage.

Remember everyone.

This guy thinks Emma Navarro should compete with Djokovic if Novak claims he is a chick.

These communists want Globalism, and Trump does not.

 

[SweetTea]

trump's absurd view of things, adopted by trumples, sees the US as having been taken advantage of when it fact it has arguably been the biggest beneficiary of the world order it helped create.

^^^^ Anti-US indoctrination and propaganda at it's finest. ^^^^