It's Politics - Send Venezuelans back - Not about Immigration Policies

[Dante]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

 

[ColonelAngus]

It is not a lie, if YOU think it’s true,

Sure, Trump hates Venezuelans, but loves all the other criminal aliens.

YOUR DAILY DOSE OF TDS!

 

[lennypartiv]

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

Well he thought wrong. Build the wall, deport them all.

 

[MisterBeale]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

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Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

This is really the dumbest, it really is.

You're just grasping at this point.


Most folks realize now, that the establishment papers, WaPo, NYT, and the WS journal, have received funds from USAID. They are naught more than deep state propaganda.




This is a patently silly narrative. Most folks that voted for Trump, KNEW he was going to deport anyone who did not come through, and be vetted by the system.


Most folks? Just don't give a rats ass about those too dumb to vote their interests.

. . I imagine that is why most folks here don't really give a shit about anything you post at this point.

 

[Dante]

It is not a lie, if YOU think it’s true,

Sure, Trump hates Venezuelans, but loves all the other criminal aliens.

YOUR DAILY DOSE OF TDS!

Huh? What? I'm not sure your brain registers just what the OP is all about. But anyway...


When Luzardo received TPS in 2021, he felt some relief, he said. Now he is worried about whether his family will be able to stay.

Going back to Venezuela, he said, is not an option. And he is alarmed by Trump’s initial gestures toward the Maduro regime. The president sent his special missions envoy, Richard Grenell, to meet with Maduro in Caracas in late January. The two reached an agreement for Venezuela to accept deportees and release hostages. The Trump administration did not address last year’s presidential election in Venezuela — widely considered fraudulent — or Maduro’s arrests of more than 1,700 political prisoners in recent months in its communications about the meeting.

“A photo of a Trump envoy shaking hands with Maduro in the middle of the Miraflores presidential palace? All smiling? It gives legitimacy to an illegitimate government” Luzardo said, shaking his head.

The journalist said that most Venezuelans, if not all, “want to go home” but “under the right circumstances.”

Luzardo once served on Venezuela’s equivalent of the Federal Communications Commission. But he said his efforts to fight government censorship made him a target. He said he decided to flee with his family in 2016 after regime officials began threatening his son. He has been waiting nine years for his asylum case to be heard.


When Luzardo received TPS in 2021, he felt some relief, he said. Now he is worried about whether his family will be able to stay.

Going back to Venezuela, he said, is not an option. And he is alarmed by Trump’s initial gestures toward the Maduro regime. The president sent his special missions envoy, Richard Grenell, to meet with Maduro in Caracas in late January. The two reached an agreement for Venezuela to accept deportees and release hostages. The Trump administration did not address last year’s presidential election in Venezuela — widely considered fraudulent — or Maduro’s arrests of more than 1,700 political prisoners in recent months in its communications about the meeting.

“A photo of a Trump envoy shaking hands with Maduro in the middle of the Miraflores presidential palace? All smiling? It gives legitimacy to an illegitimate government” Luzardo said, shaking his head.

The journalist said that most Venezuelans, if not all, “want to go home” but “under the right circumstances.”

 

[Dante]

Well he thought wrong. Build the wall, deport them all.

I can't believe you people are totally missing the point here.

 

[Dante]

This is really the dumbest, it really is.

You're just grasping at this point.


Most folks realize now, that the establishment papers, WaPo, NYT, and the WS journal, have received funds from USAID. They are naught more than deep state propaganda.




This is a patently silly narrative. Most folks that voted for Trump, KNEW he was going to deport anyone who did not come through, and be vetted by the system.


Most folks? Just don't give a rats ass about those too dumb to vote their interests.

. . I imagine that is why most folks here don't really give a shit about anything you post at this point.

Another one who isn't following

Wow!

You people have really gone bonkers


You do know Dante was not defending the family profiled in photo?

It's about Trump. Remember the Kurds?!

 

[theHawk]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

Are you claiming illegals voted for President Trump?

 

[lennypartiv]

Another one who isn't following

Wow!

You people have really gone bonkers

Trump is right, let's get the vermin out of our country.

 

[Dante]

Are you claiming illegals voted for President Trump?

Nope. And you failed to comprehend the plain English

“Trump knows exactly what’s going on in Venezuela, and these actions and these reports that they’re filing are completely inconsistent with the reality,” he said. “Was ‘America First’ policy then for us to send innocent people back to a regime? Is that what we do?”

De La Vega warned that Trump and Republicans will suffer at the ballot box. Many TPS holders have U.S. citizen relatives who can vote. He said the decision will influence how he votes in the midterms and the next presidential election.

“There’s a lot of people here saying, ‘Hey, we gave you this. This is our gift to you, our vote,’” he said. “And then you do all this stuff?”

 

[IM2]

This is really the dumbest, it really is.

You're just grasping at this point.


Most folks realize now, that the establishment papers, WaPo, NYT, and the WS journal, have received funds from USAID. They are naught more than deep state propaganda.




This is a patently silly narrative. Most folks that voted for Trump, KNEW he was going to deport anyone who did not come through, and be vetted by the system.


Most folks? Just don't give a rats ass about those too dumb to vote their interests.

. . I imagine that is why most folks here don't really give a shit about anything you post at this point.

Your "logic" doesn't include the disinformation pushed over the past 4 years. A whole lot of people are regretting their vote and that most of the people didn't vote for what trump is doing. Just because a person won doesn't mean the right choice was made/

 

[Nostra]

So, it's about politics because he is deporting illegals who support him, and illegals who don't support him.

OP is a blithering nincompoop.

 

[Nostra]

Nope. And you failed to comprehend the plain English

“Trump knows exactly what’s going on in Venezuela, and these actions and these reports that they’re filing are completely inconsistent with the reality,” he said. “Was ‘America First’ policy then for us to send innocent people back to a regime? Is that what we do?”

De La Vega warned that Trump and Republicans will suffer at the ballot box. Many TPS holders have U.S. citizen relatives who can vote. He said the decision will influence how he votes in the midterms and the next presidential election.

“There’s a lot of people here saying, ‘Hey, we gave you this. This is our gift to you, our vote,’” he said. “And then you do all this stuff?”

Hey stupid, Trump can't run again.

Holy cow!

 

[IM2]

Are you claiming illegals voted for President Trump?

No, he's saying that legal Venezuelans voted for trump thinking undocumented family members weren't going to get deported as well as legal Venezuelans are being deported.

 

[Meister]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

There is a legal way to enter this country, and there is an illegal way to enter this country.
It's quite a simple concept if you really think about it.

If there is blame to be placed, place it on Biden and his administration for allowing the illegals to enter this country.

 

[Dante]

Hey stupid, Trump can't run again.

Holy cow!

Trump has trouble walking these days. Run?

 

[Dante]

There is a legal way to enter this country, and there is an illegal way to enter this country.
It's quite a simple concept if you really think about it.

If there is blame to be placed, place it on Biden and his administration for allowing the illegals to enter this country.

Actually...

You're wrong.

Many US citizens came through and got protected status or some other administrative pass that helped them stay in the USA until citizenship came through

I remember all the Irish here during the so-called Troubles. But they were white folks who spoke passable English

 

[IM2]

Actually...

You're wrong.

Many US citizens came through and got protected status or some other administrative pass that helped them stay in the USA until citizenship came through

I remember all the Irish here during the so-called Troubles. But they were white folks who spoke passable English

There are still millions of undocumented Irish here. I bet none get rounded up and deported. Then we have trump telling Afrikaners that they can immigrate here and get sanctuary.

 

[Meister]

Actually...

You're wrong.

Many US citizens came through and got protected status or some other administrative pass that helped them stay in the USA until citizenship came through

I remember all the Irish here during the so-called Troubles. But they were white folks who spoke passable English

I think you have missed the point, slugger.

 

[MisterBeale]

It's about Trump.

. . . as are all your threads.