It's official: Majority of Amercian's voted Barack Obama, Best President Ever!

[Toddsterpatriot]

You just provided a link which shows gerrymandering benefited the House. You did not provide one which shows gerrymandering increased Trump's electoral votes.

I don't think you understand how the electoral college process works.

The number of a States districts = the number of a State's electoral votes. If you win the districts' popular vote, you win that districts' electoral vote. In some States, if you win the majority of districts, you get all the States' electoral votes. In other States, they divvy it up to both candidates.

Now this is where it gets messy. Due to hyper-partisan, right-wing gerrymandering, you have a situation where a sparsely populated, mostly republican, rural district, has the same electoral vote as a densely populated, mostly democrat, urban district.

So Trump wins these electoral votes in States, with a minority of the popular vote. Whereas is a non-partisan, gerrymandered State, more electoral votes would be allocated to the more densely populated urban areas. Thus giving more electoral votes to the democratic candidate. And that would've made Hillary the President.

Que pasa, mutha?

The number of a States districts = the number of a State's electoral votes.

You left out the EC votes for each state's 2 senate seats.

If you win the districts' popular vote, you win that districts' electoral vote.

The only 2 states that decide any EC votes by district are Maine(2) and Nebraska(3).

In some States, if you win the majority of districts, you get all the States' electoral votes.

No, no, no. Wrong. No state adds up the "won districts" to see who won the state.
They add up all the votes statewide to see who gets the EC votes.
It's possible to win 52 of California's 53 districts and still lose the state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

So Trump wins these electoral votes in States, with a minority of the popular vote.

Nope. In every state Trump won he had more votes than Hillary.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Look, JACKASS, the facts have been presented here OVER and OVER just in the time I've been here. So what is the point in presenting all the cases of certified election fraud, tampering and illegal voting AGAIN? Once presented, you simply claim it proves nothing, you never saw it, it was fake news, blah blah blah blah blah, but I'll ask the question again: EASY WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER-- -- -- -- CLOSE THE FRICKING VOTING LOOPHOLES. Institute strict Voter ID laws NOW.

If the DNC has no illegal voting going on, you've got nothing to lose.

But you Leftie Cowards run with piss down your legs in fear knowing the truth: YOU DON'T EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE you're so proud of! Without the lies, without the obfuscation like Podesta's emails attempted hidden from the voters, democrats couldn't win the office of country dog catcher.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. It occurs 0.006% of the time. It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens. It's just a bullshit excuse you make to justify voter suppression.

It doesn't matter how many times you present this nonsense, you can't provide the evidence to back up your claim.

It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens.

Waste of time? How much time does it take to pull your ID out of your wallet while waiting in line?

 

[keepitreal]

The survey polled 2,002 adults between June 5 and 12

Notes: Don't know responses not shown
Numbers add to more than 100% because of multiple responses

44% of 2,000 adults, represents over 200 million people

Do you enjoy living in your own little world?

44% of 2,000 adults, represents over 200 million people

less then half of 2200 equals over 200 million people.

(must be the new math my grandkids are talking about)

less then half of 2200 equals over 200 million people.

What?

Isn't that what you said?

'

44% of 2,000 adults, represents over 200 million people

I was being sarcastic, thats why I added....

Do you enjoy living in your own little world?

If my world were little, I'd believe your post.


but....

44% of 2200 doesn't represent over 200 million people, if the participants don't represent an equal cross section of the country.

it only represents 44% of those 2200 people.

If my world were little, I'd believe your post.


but....

44% of 2200 doesn't represent over 200 million people, if the participants don't represent an equal cross section of the country.

it only represents 44% of those 2200 people.

Omg girl..maybe your grandkids
could help you out with reading comprehension!

I replied to the crap cowboyted posted

He's creaming over a pew research poll.

2,002 people were polled
If anyone bothered to read the fine print,
they would have learned, don't know answers, weren't included
and that the numbers add to more than 100%
because of multiple responses

I listed these facts and added....

44% of 2,000 people, represent over 200 million people

Do you enjoy living in your own little world?

Which, he must...because that's the only place,
where 44% of 2,002 respondents, can make him cream....
His own little world

There are over 200 million people,
2,002 people do not speak for the majority

Don't worry about my math skills,
my math skills are fine....
Worry about your comprehension skills...
they suck!

 

[keepitreal]

Look, JACKASS, the facts have been presented here OVER and OVER just in the time I've been here. So what is the point in presenting all the cases of certified election fraud, tampering and illegal voting AGAIN? Once presented, you simply claim it proves nothing, you never saw it, it was fake news, blah blah blah blah blah, but I'll ask the question again: EASY WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER-- -- -- -- CLOSE THE FRICKING VOTING LOOPHOLES. Institute strict Voter ID laws NOW.

If the DNC has no illegal voting going on, you've got nothing to lose.

But you Leftie Cowards run with piss down your legs in fear knowing the truth: YOU DON'T EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE you're so proud of! Without the lies, without the obfuscation like Podesta's emails attempted hidden from the voters, democrats couldn't win the office of country dog catcher.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. It occurs 0.006% of the time. It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens. It's just a bullshit excuse you make to justify voter suppression.

It doesn't matter how many times you present this nonsense, you can't provide the evidence to back up your claim.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. It occurs 0.006% of the time. It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens. It's just a bullshit excuse you make to justify voter suppression.

Voter fraud doesn't exist but, yous blame Russia
for Hillary losing...she blames them, plus
everyone and everything else

It doesn't matter how many times you present this nonsense, you can't provide the evidence to back up your claim.

Exactly, no matter how many times you blame Russia,
there is no evidence to back that up

 

[Billo_Really]

Gerrymandering only impacts House seats, it doesn't do shit to the other 533 EC votes.

It affects 435 seats.

 

[Billo_Really]

You just provided a link which shows gerrymandering benefited the House. You did not provide one which shows gerrymandering increased Trump's electoral votes.

I don't think you understand how the electoral college process works.

The number of a States districts = the number of a State's electoral votes.

You left out the EC votes for each state's 2 senate seats.

If you win the districts' popular vote, you win that districts' electoral vote.

The only 2 states that decide any EC votes by district are Maine(2) and Nebraska(3).

In some States, if you win the majority of districts, you get all the States' electoral votes.

No, no, no. Wrong. No state adds up the "won districts" to see who won the state.
They add up all the votes statewide to see who gets the EC votes.
It's possible to win 52 of California's 53 districts and still lose the state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

So Trump wins these electoral votes in States, with a minority of the popular vote.

Nope. In every state Trump won he had more votes than Hillary.

I already admitted I was mistaken on this issue, yet you carry on like I didn't. Get ADD much?

 

[Billo_Really]

It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens.

Waste of time? How much time does it take to pull your ID out of your wallet while waiting in line?

Too much time.

Should we make it a law that you must carry toilet paper while jogging, in the event you have to take a shit while running at full speed?

 

[Billo_Really]

Voter fraud doesn't exist but, yous blame Russia
for Hillary losing...she blames them, plus
everyone and everything else

Exactly, no matter how many times you blame Russia,
there is no evidence to back that up

Are you on crack? After 20 indictments, 4 convictions and we're not even finished with this investigation, you say there is no evidence? You are WHACK!

As far as Hillary goes, her poll numbers went down immediately following Comey going public (regarding the FBI's investigation of her). And at that time, he conveniently did not mention the ongoing FBI investigation of Trump campaign officials.

The one thing we can take from all of this, is you and that republican banana court yesterday, are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office.

 

[NightFox]

Now ask a Democrat to name one thing Obama accomplished in 8 years.

Iran deal and the ACA.

Yeah, but can you name two good things he did?

Leaving office and endorsing Hillary Clinton as his successor.

 

[toobfreak]

Look, JACKASS, the facts have been presented here OVER and OVER just in the time I've been here. So what is the point in presenting all the cases of certified election fraud, tampering and illegal voting AGAIN? Once presented, you simply claim it proves nothing, you never saw it, it was fake news, blah blah blah blah blah, but I'll ask the question again: EASY WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER-- -- -- -- CLOSE THE FRICKING VOTING LOOPHOLES. Institute strict Voter ID laws NOW.

If the DNC has no illegal voting going on, you've got nothing to lose.

But you Leftie Cowards run with piss down your legs in fear knowing the truth: YOU DON'T EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE you're so proud of! Without the lies, without the obfuscation like Podesta's emails attempted hidden from the voters, democrats couldn't win the office of country dog catcher.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. It occurs 0.006% of the time. It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens. It's just a bullshit excuse you make to justify voter suppression.

It doesn't matter how many times you present this nonsense, you can't provide the evidence to back up your claim.

GREAT! No voter fraud, you claim. Not that you ever prove it. Then nothing lost by instituting voter ID! Institute the law NOW! Show me where there are SO MANY PEOPLE who absolutely cannot get any kind of legitimate ID in this country to vote, that they would actually CHANGE the outcome of any election? Then tell me how they live. Then tell me, if you have a RIGHT TO VOTE and absolutely need ID to do it, then why aren't you campaigning for the government to provide a free way of everyone getting it! Where is your concern for the people?????????

 

[toobfreak]

Not only is that total BULLSHIT, but if anyone DIDN'T have acceptable ID, THAT IS THEIR FAULT! Obviously they choose not to have it. Only eligible legal citizens and preferably landowners and taxpayers should have any say in our elections. I wouldn't be against a test as well. We don't want the vote of idiots who have no idea what they're voting for!

What about the handicapped, or the poor, who don't have the resources to go get your bullshit ID?

Again, show me where there are no many absolutely destitute, sick, elderly impoverished people that can't get ANY KIND of valid ID whatsoever, that:
A). Their number is so great as to CHANGE an election.
B). Voting for someone is even in the top 100 of their concerns and problems they are dealing with.
C). That they even have the means to own a TV, internet, newspaper, anything for them to even know who the candidates are, when the election is, the issues, or these people's positions upon which to base a vote in the first place?

STOP THE DAMNED LYING
INSTITUTE VOTER ID LAWS NOW

 

[toobfreak]

Look, JACKASS, the facts have been presented here OVER and OVER just in the time I've been here. So what is the point in presenting all the cases of certified election fraud, tampering and illegal voting AGAIN? Once presented, you simply claim it proves nothing, you never saw it, it was fake news, blah blah blah blah blah, but I'll ask the question again: EASY WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER-- -- -- -- CLOSE THE FRICKING VOTING LOOPHOLES. Institute strict Voter ID laws NOW.

If the DNC has no illegal voting going on, you've got nothing to lose.

But you Leftie Cowards run with piss down your legs in fear knowing the truth: YOU DON'T EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE you're so proud of! Without the lies, without the obfuscation like Podesta's emails attempted hidden from the voters, democrats couldn't win the office of country dog catcher.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. It occurs 0.006% of the time. It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens. It's just a bullshit excuse you make to justify voter suppression.

It doesn't matter how many times you present this nonsense, you can't provide the evidence to back up your claim.

It is a total waste of time expending any energy to prevent something that hardly ever happens.

Waste of time? How much time does it take to pull your ID out of your wallet while waiting in line?

I bet that ID flies right out when it comes to signing up for welfare.

 

[rightwinger]

Presidents in my lifetime

1. Ike
2. The Great Obama
3. Reagan
4. JFK
5. LBJ
6. Clinton
7. Bush 41
8. Carter
9. Ford
10. Nixon
11 Trump
12 Bush 43

If Nixon hadn’t been paranoid, and criminal, he would have gone down as the greatest president in my lifetime. Today he couldn’t get through a republican primary

Nixon was highly qualified to be president and did a great job in foreign policy and even performed as good as could be expected on Vietnam

But his internal demons were his undoing
Much like Trump

 

[rightwinger]

Not only is that total BULLSHIT, but if anyone DIDN'T have acceptable ID, THAT IS THEIR FAULT! Obviously they choose not to have it. Only eligible legal citizens and preferably landowners and taxpayers should have any say in our elections. I wouldn't be against a test as well. We don't want the vote of idiots who have no idea what they're voting for!

What about the handicapped, or the poor, who don't have the resources to go get your bullshit ID?

Again, show me where there are no many absolutely destitute, sick, elderly impoverished people that can't get ANY KIND of valid ID whatsoever, that:
A). Their number is so great as to CHANGE an election.
B). Voting for someone is even in the top 100 of their concerns and problems they are dealing with.
C). That they even have the means to own a TV, internet, newspaper, anything for them to even know who the candidates are, when the election is, the issues, or these people's positions upon which to base a vote in the first place?

STOP THE DAMNED LYING
INSTITUTE VOTER ID LAWS NOW

You have yet to show where 99 percent of the population has an acceptable ID

Your opinion has no weight.......Where is your study?

 

[toobfreak]

Not only is that total BULLSHIT, but if anyone DIDN'T have acceptable ID, THAT IS THEIR FAULT! Obviously they choose not to have it. Only eligible legal citizens and preferably landowners and taxpayers should have any say in our elections. I wouldn't be against a test as well. We don't want the vote of idiots who have no idea what they're voting for!

What about the handicapped, or the poor, who don't have the resources to go get your bullshit ID?

Again, show me where there are no many absolutely destitute, sick, elderly impoverished people that can't get ANY KIND of valid ID whatsoever, that:
A). Their number is so great as to CHANGE an election.
B). Voting for someone is even in the top 100 of their concerns and problems they are dealing with.
C). That they even have the means to own a TV, internet, newspaper, anything for them to even know who the candidates are, when the election is, the issues, or these people's positions upon which to base a vote in the first place?

STOP THE DAMNED LYING
INSTITUTE VOTER ID LAWS NOW

You have yet to show where 99 percent of the population has an acceptable ID

Your opinion has no weight.......Where is your study?

You have yet to EVER respond to showing where even 1% DON'T have ID. THAT IS THE TOPIC, stick to it.
You never have any opinion, you have no weight, you have no credibility, you have no study.
All you ever do is post stupid shit to get your post count up and waste people's time.

Where are all the no-ID people whom would CHANGE ANY ELECTION if missed?
Where are the droves of people who have TRIED to vote but were BLOCKED because they COULD NOT GET any form of legal ID?

How can we consider an election so sacred we spend millions worrying that some country on the other side of the planet might have slightly influenced one with Facebook ads to 0.00001% yet we care nothing to even ensure that those here voting are actually legally valid voters?

 

[keepitreal]

Voter fraud doesn't exist but, yous blame Russia
for Hillary losing...she blames them, plus
everyone and everything else

Exactly, no matter how many times you blame Russia,
there is no evidence to back that up

Are you on crack? After 20 indictments, 4 convictions and we're not even finished with this investigation, you say there is no evidence? You are WHACK!

As far as Hillary goes, her poll numbers went down immediately following Comey going public (regarding the FBI's investigation of her). And at that time, he conveniently did not mention the ongoing FBI investigation of Trump campaign officials.

The one thing we can take from all of this, is you and that republican banana court yesterday, are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office.

Are you on crack? After 20 indictments, 4 convictions and we're not even finished with this investigation, you say there is no evidence? You are WHACK!

*****, please

Indicting Russian nationals
and an Internet Research Agency, for meddling....

attempting to sow political discord
making derogatory statements online
favoring Trump but, not poor Hillary
buying political advertisement on social media
attempting to influence public opinion

There was already discord moron
All candidates make derogatory statements,
about the other candidates
Who wasn't using social media to sway voters
All candidates attempt to influence public opinion

Why was the 'meddling' not brought to light, early on?

As far as Hillary goes, her poll numbers went down immediately following Comey going public (regarding the FBI's investigation of her).

As far as Hillary goes,
the 'polls' still showed Trump, eating her dust

Just like the bullshit claims, that the majority of Americans
chose Obama as the best president, in a recent poll.

44%, of 2,002 people, who were allowed multiple responses,
and didn't include the % of those who answered 'don't know',
and the % totals, are greater than 100%....

Are inaccurate, misleading and hogwash!

 

[Billo_Really]

GREAT! No voter fraud, you claim. Not that you ever prove it. Then nothing lost by instituting voter ID! Institute the law NOW! Show me where there are SO MANY PEOPLE who absolutely cannot get any kind of legitimate ID in this country to vote, that they would actually CHANGE the outcome of any election? Then tell me how they live. Then tell me, if you have a RIGHT TO VOTE and absolutely need ID to do it, then why aren't you campaigning for the government to provide a free way of everyone getting it! Where is your concern for the people?????????

Why waste any time on a non-issue?

Would you spend the time and energy to build an A-frame roof in the middle of the desert, because you were worried about snow loads?

 

[Billo_Really]

Again, show me where there are no many absolutely destitute, sick, elderly impoverished people that can't get ANY KIND of valid ID whatsoever, that:
A). Their number is so great as to CHANGE an election.
B). Voting for someone is even in the top 100 of their concerns and problems they are dealing with.
C). That they even have the means to own a TV, internet, newspaper, anything for them to even know who the candidates are, when the election is, the issues, or these people's positions upon which to base a vote in the first place?

STOP THE DAMNED LYING
INSTITUTE VOTER ID LAWS NOW

You mean institute voter suppression? Let's call it for what it is.

 

[rightwinger]

Not only is that total BULLSHIT, but if anyone DIDN'T have acceptable ID, THAT IS THEIR FAULT! Obviously they choose not to have it. Only eligible legal citizens and preferably landowners and taxpayers should have any say in our elections. I wouldn't be against a test as well. We don't want the vote of idiots who have no idea what they're voting for!

What about the handicapped, or the poor, who don't have the resources to go get your bullshit ID?

Again, show me where there are no many absolutely destitute, sick, elderly impoverished people that can't get ANY KIND of valid ID whatsoever, that:
A). Their number is so great as to CHANGE an election.
B). Voting for someone is even in the top 100 of their concerns and problems they are dealing with.
C). That they even have the means to own a TV, internet, newspaper, anything for them to even know who the candidates are, when the election is, the issues, or these people's positions upon which to base a vote in the first place?

STOP THE DAMNED LYING
INSTITUTE VOTER ID LAWS NOW

You have yet to show where 99 percent of the population has an acceptable ID

Your opinion has no weight.......Where is your study?

You have yet to EVER respond to showing where even 1% DON'T have ID. THAT IS THE TOPIC, stick to it.
You never have any opinion, you have no weight, you have no credibility, you have no study.
All you ever do is post stupid shit to get your post count up and waste people's time.

Where are all the no-ID people whom would CHANGE ANY ELECTION if missed?
Where are the droves of people who have TRIED to vote but were BLOCKED because they COULD NOT GET any form of legal ID?

How can we consider an election so sacred we spend millions worrying that some country on the other side of the planet might have slightly influenced one with Facebook ads to 0.00001% yet we care nothing to even ensure that those here voting are actually legally valid voters?

Read post 182

Now you provide credible proof that 99 percent HAVE ID

 

[Billo_Really]

*****, please

Indicting Russian nationals
and an Internet Research Agency, for meddling....

attempting to sow political discord
making derogatory statements online
favoring Trump but, not poor Hillary
buying political advertisement on social media
attempting to influence public opinion

There was already discord moron
All candidates make derogatory statements,
about the other candidates
Who wasn't using social media to sway voters
All candidates attempt to influence public opinion

Why was the 'meddling' not brought to light, early on?

As far as Hillary goes, her poll numbers went down immediately following Comey going public (regarding the FBI's investigation of her).

As far as Hillary goes,
the 'polls' still showed Trump, eating her dust

Just like the bullshit claims, that the majority of Americans
chose Obama as the best president, in a recent poll.

44%, of 2,002 people, who were allowed multiple responses,
and didn't include the % of those who answered 'don't know',
and the % totals, are greater than 100%....

Are inaccurate, misleading and hogwash!

The 4 people convicted and 1 to be indicted, were all part of Trump's campaign and inner circle.