It’s McDonald v. Chicago, not D.C. v. Heller, that was the true landmark ruling.

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

Clay. Be polite sum the MF up in 3 sentences of your own before pouring an abortion no one will ever read......Thanks Clay

 

[frigidweirdo]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

Heller doesn't say much. Just a lot of people make out it says way more than it does.

Mostly because the right wing justices know that "bear arms" means "render military service" or "militia duty". So they wrote it in a way that right wing gun addicts would read it to support their views, without it actually supporting their views.

 

[daveman]

You know why leftists oppose the innate human right of owning firearms?

Because armed people don't get on the cattle cars.

 

[2aguy]

No...it doesn't mean that.......Wear, Bear or Carry...you idiot.

 

[whitehall]

How a 1833 case of a municipality dumping gravel into a harbor impacts the 2nd Amendment is anybody's guess. The Court is not infallible especially when it strays away from the Constitution. The Court upheld FDR's executive order that authorized the arrest of American citizens without due process. The Court found a "right to privacy" that did not exist in the Constitution to authorize the murder of the unborn. On the other hand the Court sustained the 2nd Amendment against numerous challenges through the decades.

 

[daveman]

How a 1833 case of a municipality dumping gravel into a harbor impacts the 2nd Amendment is anybody's guess. The Court is not infallible especially when it strays away from the Constitution. The Court upheld FDR's executive order that authorized the arrest of American citizens without due process. The Court found a "right to privacy" that did not exist in the Constitution to authorize the murder of the unborn. On the other hand the Court sustained the 2nd Amendment against numerous challenges through the decades.

Jonesy is desperate to find a veneer of justification for his desire to make everyone defenseless against leftist tyranny.

 

[2aguy]

How a 1833 case of a municipality dumping gravel into a harbor impacts the 2nd Amendment is anybody's guess. The Court is not infallible especially when it strays away from the Constitution. The Court upheld FDR's executive order that authorized the arrest of American citizens without due process. The Court found a "right to privacy" that did not exist in the Constitution to authorize the murder of the unborn. On the other hand the Court sustained the 2nd Amendment against numerous challenges through the decades.

The Court upheld Separate but equal and returning slaves to their democrat party slave owners.....the court is not infallible...and is incredibly fallible when democrats are the majority on the court.

 

[whitehall]

What's the point anyway? Are lefties trying to make a case that certain administrations are empowered to apply the Bill of Rights any way they want? It might seem like good news to the left but it is a fantasy fueled by ignorance and anger.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

Heller doesn't say much. Just a lot of people make out it says way more than it does.

Mostly because the right wing justices know that "bear arms" means "render military service" or "militia duty". So they wrote it in a way that right wing gun addicts would read it to support their views, without it actually supporting their views.

Did you forget the "keep" part again? I think so.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

That clumsy-ass 14th Amendment just keeps on fucking it up for everybody, doesn't it? Prior to McDonald, the 2nd Amendment made sense, despite years of trying to ignore it. No federal authority, period. Easy. Concise. Indisputable.


Now, firearm/2nd Amendment jurisprudence is a bucket hodge podge SHIT.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

The fact Heller held the right to keep and bear arms is held by the individual absent and relationship to the militia, is far more significant; after this ruling, incorporation against the actions of the states was just a matter of time.

 

[marvin martian]

In Barron v. Baltimore (1833) the Supreme Court held that the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal government, not the states and local jurisdictions.

After the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the Court began to apply (incorporate) portions of the Bill of Rights to the states and local jurisdictions pursuant to the doctrine of substantive due process (see, for example, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company v. City of Chicago (1897), incorporating the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause to the states and local jurisdictions).

By the middle of the 20th Century, much of the Bill of Rights had been incorporated to the states: the First Amendment right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech, the Fourth Amendment prohibition of warrantless searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and the Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment – save for the Second Amendment.

It wasn’t until 2010 that the Second Amendment was incorporated to the states and local jurisdictions in McDonald v. Chicago.

Prior to McDonald, the states were at complete liberty to regulate firearms as they saw fit, not subject to the authority of Federal courts; Heller applied only to the Federal government (the District of Columbia is a Federal entity).

Absent McDonald, therefore, residents of the states would have no standing to challenge state firearm regulatory measures on Second Amendment grounds, bringing an end to the evolution of Second Amendment jurisprudence.

You don't have to try to torture an old SC ruling to fit your anti-civil rights agenda. Everyone knows if you fascists eventually take over, you're just going to kill everyone you disagree with. Because that's what fascists do.