I love it though, dig this folks
Faun is arguing AGAINST SAME SEX MARRIAGE
Folks, you simply can't make this shit up.
Actually, you just made that shit up. And folks here know it.
I support same-sex marriage, you you're so brain deficient, you think I'm against it.
I'm against any close-family members from marrying each other regardless of gender. Same-sex marriage has nothing to do with my position on that. Taking your idiocy to it's logicsl conclusion, you must think I'm against all marriages since since I'm also against opposite-sex close-family marriages.
Look at what you have:
A logical fallacy
An instruction pamphlet from a print shop in Spensor, Iowa, which actually does not disagree with my argument that same sex family members can Marry.
And a proposed piece of legislation making same sex family marriage illegal (because it's obviously legal now)
Then there are my sources, which include:
The law itself:
The opinion of 5 Attorneys:
And 2 independent sources that deal with a.) the law and b.) Marriage.
Let's get started, shall we with my supportive evidence, since you have none?
List of prohibited marriages
Iowa Annulment and Prohibited Marriage Laws - FindLaw
From an attorney with 31 years experience
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2014/06/24/14-35420Robinson.pdf
Another attorneys opinion
CPA at Law: Pass Wealth Tax Free by Marrying a Descendant?
Another independent source:
Annulment Of Marriage In Iowa - Marriage | Laws.com
This ones interesting, from a family law attorney in West Des Moines, Iowa
Pretty much nails the idea that "the list" in 595.19" actually IS THE LIST OF PROHIBITED MARRIAGES
Can a woman and her great-uncle marry? - Avvo.com
Roger J. Hudson II
Family Law Attorney
Posted
on Jun 11
Iowa Code Sec. 595.19 lists "void" marriages. This section doesn't prohibit marriages between a woman and her grandmother's brother.
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Iowa Code 595.19
595.19 VOID MARRIAGES.
1. Marriages between the following persons who are related by
blood are void:
a. Between a man and his father's sister, mother's sister,
daughter, sister, son's daughter, daughter's daughter, brother's
daughter, or sister's daughter.
b. Between a woman and her father's brother, mother's
brother, son, brother, son's son, daughter's son, brother's son, or
sister's son.
c. Between first cousins.
2. Marriages between persons either of whom has a husband or wife
living are void, but, if the parties live and cohabit together after
the death or divorce of the former husband or wife, such marriage
shall be valid.
Here's even more fun facts regarding Iowa's marriage law.
Iowa allows same sex family members to Marry.
Iowa had no residency requirement, so same sex family members from anywhere in the United States can Marry in Iowa.
And since the USSC ruled that all marriage licenses, regardless of where they were issued, must be recognized in all 50 states.......
BINGO:
Same sex family members can Marry IN Iowa AND YOUR STATE MUST RECOGNIZE THEM!
You perverted dork, you're making my point. I've already pointed out any eligible couple in the U.S. can marry in Iowa. That's 250 million Americans.
And in 6 years, not one gas entered into such a marriage.
You described Iowa's situation a,
"mess."
Looks like the only mess is the one betwixt your ears.
Nope: there's more dumbfuck:
List of prohibited marriages
Iowa Annulment and Prohibited Marriage Laws - FindLaw
From an attorney with 31 years experience
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2014/06/24/14-35420Robinson.pdf
Another attorneys opinion
CPA at Law: Pass Wealth Tax Free by Marrying a Descendant?
Another independent source:
Annulment Of Marriage In Iowa - Marriage | Laws.com
This ones interesting, from a family law attorney in West Des Moines, Iowa
Pretty much nails the idea that "the list" in 595.19" actually IS THE LIST OF PROHIBITED MARRIAGES
Can a woman and her great-uncle marry? - Avvo.com
Roger J. Hudson II
Family Law Attorney
Posted
on Jun 11
Iowa Code Sec. 595.19 lists "void" marriages. This section doesn't prohibit marriages between a woman and her grandmother's brother.
Answers on Avvo are not to be considered a response to a specific legal issue in a specific jurisdiction - they are to be considered only general responses to hypothetical scenarios posed by the questioner. For specific legal advice, please consult with a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction. No information contained herein should be construed as a solicitation for business, an offer to perform legal services in any jurisdiction in which the attorneys of R.J. Law Firm, P.C. are not licensed, or the dissemination of legal advice. No creation of an attorney-client relationship should be assumed or implied.
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Iowa Code 595.19
595.19 VOID MARRIAGES.
1. Marriages between the following persons who are related by
blood are void:
a. Between a man and his father's sister, mother's sister,
daughter, sister, son's daughter, daughter's daughter, brother's
daughter, or sister's daughter.
b. Between a woman and her father's brother, mother's
brother, son, brother, son's son, daughter's son, brother's son, or
sister's son.
c. Between first cousins.
2. Marriages between persons either of whom has a husband or wife
living are void, but, if the parties live and cohabit together after
the death or divorce of the former husband or wife, such marriage
shall be valid.
All referencing the same statute, which again, is meaningless since as you're well aware by now, Iowa still doesn't allow close-family members to marry each other regardless of gender...
IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF APPLICANTS TO READ THIS CAREFULLY BEFORE MAKING APPLICATION!
Iowa law provides that marriage is a civil contract between two persons who are (1) 18 years of age or older; (2) not already married to each other or still legally married to someone else; (3) not closely related by blood or first cousins; and (4) legally competent to enter into a civil contract.
As far as proving a negative, no, but you can't even prove a positive since you can't find a couple who has.
Your using a logical falicy again.
The legality is real, the participation is irrelevant
Look at what you have:
A logical fallacy
An instruction pamphlet from a print shop in Spensor, Iowa, which actually does not disagree with my argument that same sex family members can Marry.
And a proposed piece of legislation making same sex family marriage illegal (because it's obviously legal now)
Then there are my sources, which include:
The law itself:
The opinion of 5 Attorneys:
And 2 independent sources that deal with a.) the law and b.) Marriage.
Let's get started, shall we with my supportive evidence, since you have none?
List of prohibited marriages
Iowa Annulment and Prohibited Marriage Laws - FindLaw
From an attorney with 31 years experience
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2014/06/24/14-35420Robinson.pdf
Another attorneys opinion
CPA at Law: Pass Wealth Tax Free by Marrying a Descendant?
Another independent source:
Annulment Of Marriage In Iowa - Marriage | Laws.com
This ones interesting, from a family law attorney in West Des Moines, Iowa
Pretty much nails the idea that "the list" in 595.19" actually IS THE LIST OF PROHIBITED MARRIAGES
Can a woman and her great-uncle marry? - Avvo.com
Roger J. Hudson II
Family Law Attorney
Posted
on Jun 11
Iowa Code Sec. 595.19 lists "void" marriages. This section doesn't prohibit marriages between a woman and her grandmother's brother.
Answers on Avvo are not to be considered a response to a specific legal issue in a specific jurisdiction - they are to be considered only general responses to hypothetical scenarios posed by the questioner. For specific legal advice, please consult with a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction. No information contained herein should be construed as a solicitation for business, an offer to perform legal services in any jurisdiction in which the attorneys of R.J. Law Firm, P.C. are not licensed, or the dissemination of legal advice. No creation of an attorney-client relationship should be assumed or implied.
Mark as helpful
2 lawyers agree
Iowa Code 595.19
595.19 VOID MARRIAGES.
1. Marriages between the following persons who are related by
blood are void:
a. Between a man and his father's sister, mother's sister,
daughter, sister, son's daughter, daughter's daughter, brother's
daughter, or sister's daughter.
b. Between a woman and her father's brother, mother's
brother, son, brother, son's son, daughter's son, brother's son, or
sister's son.
c. Between first cousins.
2. Marriages between persons either of whom has a husband or wife
living are void, but, if the parties live and cohabit together after
the death or divorce of the former husband or wife, such marriage
shall be valid.