Its an uprising against the system

[beagle9]

i have difficulty believing that evolved and enlightened civilization would ever chimpout over the results of an election like this.

Dear Ozone
given the grief and angst I had going into an election I thought Clinton had clinched,
I totally understand when the shoe is on the other foot.

People cried and grieved over Romney losing to Obama.

People express their distress in different ways.
Very fear based.
But very real and genuine all the same.

Ironic that before this point
people close to me were worried about race wars targeting WHITES
because of the negative media hype
now a dear friend close to me worries
about race issues targeting BLACKS all over again

So both sides are made to be equally afraid
because of race exploited in the media to drive emotions for political gains.

It's like MisterBeale clarified as "identity" politics
that distracts from both the problems and solutions we share responsibility for

It goes both ways.
And I sympathize with both, and feel that angst and distrust.

I just rather see people protest "civilly"
and use media and process in educational ways.
That's better than rioting with no purpose or direction.

These people DO have direction, and just need
to align their compasses
where we all agree to move forward in the right way
and not get distracted by the dangers
that BOTH SIDES want to avoid.

Both sides are afraid, but have different ways
of directing that energy. We need to work together
like horses pulling a cart, not running in opposite directions
and throwing everyone off course!

. I agree, but to pull the filth along on the carts with us should not be the case any longer. People like JZ and other shady characters need to be shunned by the political system now. They need to remain outside the government be it in influence and involvement. Until they clean up their acts, and become positive role models to the young folks in which is their target audience, we should shun them, and keep them to hell out of government.

 

[beagle9]

Hello Odium it's not just race but class.

Notice that Obama and Clinton have corporate backing, and now critics point this out with Trump.

The elitists get to play the game and control the narrative,
UNLESS the people Unite not divide!

The people on both left and right can stop abuses of government more directly and effectively by lobbying together as a collective voice so we do have equal presence and compelling voice as the corporate interests that use their collective influence this way.

We have to do the same, but organizing resources not wasting them fighting where the bigger bullies step in, use one side against the other, and leave us all in the dirt while they profit off the game.

Together we stand, divided we fall.
All for one, and one for all.

I agree with you, it is indeed an uprising against the system.

However, just because the system used to be bigoted and xenophobic, DOES NOT MEAN, that people have not evolved and become more enlightened. There are more people that have more love and empathy for each other, and the world's elites are just using, and have been using hatred and division to keep us down. Odium is part of the problem, not the solution.

Trump is a false flag candidate, and he will bring no real change in the end.

This vote was a revolt against the system, and Trump used race, but it wasn't about race, it was about a revolt against corrupt institutions and a media that lies about them.

Democrats, Trump, and the Ongoing, Dangerous Refusal to Learn the Lesson of Brexit
Democrats, Trump, and the Ongoing, Dangerous Refusal to Learn the Lesson of Brexit

Brexit Is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions
Brexit Is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions

. You said Trump used race, but I say he was countering the race baiters. If you are going to debate, then at least leave your anti-Trump bias at the door. Someone might listen to you if you could do that.

While agree he was countering the race baiters, while running the GE campaing, the media did not cover it as such, they were in the pocket of the Hillary campaign.

During the primaries, that is not what he was doing. He made lame attempts to distance himself from unsavory parts of white supremacist portions of the electorate. This was a calculated strategy. Why do you think posters like Odium were so attracted to him?

Why do you think DU got hacked with this vid.?

What do you think all these protests are about? Are you living in denial?

News aggregator site Democratic Underground still down since Election Day hack by Trump supporter
News aggregator site Democratic Underground still down since Election Day hack by Trump supporter
The hacker exploited that vulnerability in what appeared to be a politically-motivated act of vandalism: A large number of posts were removed and replaced with the words "God Emperor" (a reference to Donald Trump), and a ridiculously over-the-top pro-Trump video was served automatically to all of our visitors. If you're curious you can watch the video on YouTube (WARNING: HATE CONTENT)...

. Just remember one thing, and that thing is that the leftist Demon-crats were the ones who tried to manipulate Trump's speak to suggest he was racist when he tried to say WOE Nelly, let's pull back on these reigns in order to assess the situation where we were being killed by Arab or middle East terrorist. Then the left tried to use that like they always have done, in order to keep white guilt alive, and that was to suggest that Trump was a racist in which was pure bull crap, and (what) was it all because he concerned himself about why we were being killed in our own streets by radicalized or radical Muslim terrorist ??? The American people have had enough of the leftist bull crap, and it's about dam time.

While I agree with your surface analysis, I think they are both full of shit.

I study the deep state, and the whole thing is a con.

Sufism is funded by the west, and the west's allies. Wahhabists are critical to the operation of our allies. There wouldn't be a such thing as Islamic terrorism if we didn't want there to be, if the Saudi Government didn't push it.

Research it, find out what operation Gladio was, and what operation Gladio B are. If you think Gladio B is going to end under Trump, you are deluded, he can't and won't ever get control of the Deep State.

. You went deep, but thanks for agreeing with my surface analysis, but terrorist killing us here had to be discussed, and immigration from high risk areas had to be halted.