Its all a failure...

[Votto]

This is how I always will remember Joe Biden

 

[Osiris-ODS]

What other viable model is there? It's called survival of the fittest for a reason. There are finite resources on this planet and an ever-increasing global population vying for those resources. Like it or not, humans will always be competing with one another for access to those resources. As a whole, we are not an altruistic species. We can at times put others first (our children), but overall, we're the same species that walked out of the caves and when push comes to shove, we will put the interests of ourselves and our families above everyone else competing for a better quality of life. In that way, we're no different than most other species in the animal kingdom (save for ants and bees and other drone-type species).

To that end, economic models predicated on treating human populations like ants or bees are antithetical to human nature, which is why they never work. And hell, even ants and bees require all members of the colony to work, they don't have a "freeloader" class that reaps the benefits of the resources and infrastructure provided by the workers while contributing nothing.

We are the only species on earth that entertains the notion of a nanny state, where members of the population can simply opt out of competing for their own resources or working for the betterment of the colony, and instead, expect to be provided for, from cradle to grave, by allocating resources generated by the work of other members of the colony. And of course, this system has always been a miserable failure, prone to abuse and perpetuation of class disparities, among other causally-connected burdens on societal advancement as a whole.

Unfortunately competition has lead to the fascist rapacious oligarchy we see today. When government is in bed with wealthy transnational capitalists and big corporations, making sure the playing field is tilted to their benefit, we’ve become a failed state.

By any objective analysis, failure is evident. When a handful of greedy psychopaths can attain enormous wealth and political power while millions languish in poverty or near poverty, it’s a failure.

That's because competition is being abated in favor of croneyism. What you're describing is the opposite of competition, and I agree it's a despicable practice that harms the general population and rewards only elites who are fortunate enough to be involved.

 

[Votto]

What other viable model is there? It's called survival of the fittest for a reason. There are finite resources on this planet and an ever-increasing global population vying for those resources. Like it or not, humans will always be competing with one another for access to those resources. As a whole, we are not an altruistic species. We can at times put others first (our children), but overall, we're the same species that walked out of the caves and when push comes to shove, we will put the interests of ourselves and our families above everyone else competing for a better quality of life. In that way, we're no different than most other species in the animal kingdom (save for ants and bees and other drone-type species).

To that end, economic models predicated on treating human populations like ants or bees are antithetical to human nature, which is why they never work. And hell, even ants and bees require all members of the colony to work, they don't have a "freeloader" class that reaps the benefits of the resources and infrastructure provided by the workers while contributing nothing.

We are the only species on earth that entertains the notion of a nanny state, where members of the population can simply opt out of competing for their own resources or working for the betterment of the colony, and instead, expect to be provided for, from cradle to grave, by allocating resources generated by the work of other members of the colony. And of course, this system has always been a miserable failure, prone to abuse and perpetuation of class disparities, among other causally-connected burdens on societal advancement as a whole.

Unfortunately competition has lead to the fascist rapacious oligarchy we see today. When government is in bed with wealthy transnational capitalists and big corporations, making sure the playing field is tilted to their benefit, we’ve become a failed state.

By any objective analysis, failure is evident. When a handful of greedy psychopaths can attain enormous wealth and political power while millions languish in poverty or near poverty, it’s a failure.

That's because competition is being abated in favor of croneyism. What you're describing is the opposite of competition, and I agree it's a despicable practice that harms the general population and rewards only elites who are fortunate enough to be involved.

No, I would say there is an element of competition in croneyism.

 

[linux07]

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Caitlin Johnstone is known to be a bit on the left, and influenced heavily by socialist thought.

On the one hand, the cooperative model has it's place, OTH, competition is natural. We see it throughout the natural world. To claim that nature is dysfuntional is pretty short sighted. I have a feeling she is an atheist who believes that humans can rise above their nature and solve all of their problems.


A balance must be struck. Going to either extreme generally leads to dysfunction.

To claim that competition is, "not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet," does not take a realistic view of history or biology. Certainly, the predictions of Malthus would have come to pass long ago without competition.

I agree. Competition has its benefits, when done correctly and fairly. Unfortunately our current economic situation is far from correct and fair.

It’s evident our government is all about satisfying the demands of the ultra wealthy and the corporations they own. The people’s demands are mostly ignored.

1. Nothing is fair

2. All human endeavors ultimately fail.

3. Everyone competes.

Stop trying to achieve the unachievable.

Why torture yourself?

That’s absurd. We lived in a failed state that harms millions of poor people and you say hunky dory. Fuck that.

Name a state that is not failed.

Again you’re trying to minimize the problem by claiming oh well, everybody does it.
It doesn’t have to be this way. Acceptance of failure and suffering is dumb.

It's like I always say, everyone has a devil, that is, there is one thing that f#cks up the world

For example, Marx said it was class warfare and capitalism, Christians say it is our sin nature, Nazis insist it is the Jews, etc.

So what is your devil? What is wrong with the human race?

Government

 

[Osiris-ODS]

What other viable model is there? It's called survival of the fittest for a reason. There are finite resources on this planet and an ever-increasing global population vying for those resources. Like it or not, humans will always be competing with one another for access to those resources. As a whole, we are not an altruistic species. We can at times put others first (our children), but overall, we're the same species that walked out of the caves and when push comes to shove, we will put the interests of ourselves and our families above everyone else competing for a better quality of life. In that way, we're no different than most other species in the animal kingdom (save for ants and bees and other drone-type species).

To that end, economic models predicated on treating human populations like ants or bees are antithetical to human nature, which is why they never work. And hell, even ants and bees require all members of the colony to work, they don't have a "freeloader" class that reaps the benefits of the resources and infrastructure provided by the workers while contributing nothing.

We are the only species on earth that entertains the notion of a nanny state, where members of the population can simply opt out of competing for their own resources or working for the betterment of the colony, and instead, expect to be provided for, from cradle to grave, by allocating resources generated by the work of other members of the colony. And of course, this system has always been a miserable failure, prone to abuse and perpetuation of class disparities, among other causally-connected burdens on societal advancement as a whole.

Unfortunately competition has lead to the fascist rapacious oligarchy we see today. When government is in bed with wealthy transnational capitalists and big corporations, making sure the playing field is tilted to their benefit, we’ve become a failed state.

By any objective analysis, failure is evident. When a handful of greedy psychopaths can attain enormous wealth and political power while millions languish in poverty or near poverty, it’s a failure.

That's because competition is being abated in favor of croneyism. What you're describing is the opposite of competition, and I agree it's a despicable practice that harms the general population and rewards only elites who are fortunate enough to be involved.

No, I would say there is an element of competition in croneyism.

Only to the smallest degree. Croneyism often manifests itself in things like government contracts where competition among the various bidders takes a backseat to things like nepotism and self-dealing.

 

[evenflow1969]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

There is on other, fair way to do it. Resources are scarce because Chinse, Indian, and Mexican men have been doing way too much unprotected fucking.

War is the only solution.

Ya, having nukes fly is the solution. Lol You do realize China is nuclear armed right? I guess if ya want cockroaches to be the winner of the dominant species game it makes sense.

 

[Oddball]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

There is on other, fair way to do it. Resources are scarce because Chinse, Indian, and Mexican men have been doing way too much unprotected fucking.

War is the only solution.

Ya, having nukes fly is the solution. Lol You do realize China is nuclear armed right? I guess if ya want cockroaches to be the winner of the dominant species game it makes sense.

Who said anything about nukes, dumbfuck? Nobody will use them. It makes no sense to destroy territory with nukes and make it uninhabitable when territory is the resource most coveted.

See how stupid you?

 

[gipper]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

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Who said they wanted communism?

 

[evenflow1969]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

There is on other, fair way to do it. Resources are scarce because Chinse, Indian, and Mexican men have been doing way too much unprotected fucking.

War is the only solution.

Ya, having nukes fly is the solution. Lol You do realize China is nuclear armed right? I guess if ya want cockroaches to be the winner of the dominant species game it makes sense.

Who said anything about nukes, dumbfuck? Nobody will use them. It makes no sense to destroy territory with nukes and make it uninhabitable when territory is the resource most coveted.

See how stupid you?

You are the dumb fuck if ya think they would not be used in war with China. Get bent bitch.

 

[Oddball]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

View attachment 468152

Who said they wanted communism?

That's where talk like this has always ended up....What would make anyone believe this time is different?

 

[gipper]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

View attachment 468152

Who said they wanted communism?

That's where talk like this has always ended up....What would make anyone believe this time is different?

Only in the small minds of right wingers.

 

[Oddball]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

View attachment 468152

Who said they wanted communism?

That's where talk like this has always ended up....What would make anyone believe this time is different?

Only in the small minds of right wingers.

Not the answer to the question.....What should make me believe it's different this time?

 

[gipper]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

View attachment 468152

Who said they wanted communism?

That's where talk like this has always ended up....What would make anyone believe this time is different?

Only in the small minds of right wingers.

Not the answer to the question.....What should make me believe it's different this time?

Because I said so.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

There is on other, fair way to do it. Resources are scarce because Chinse, Indian, and Mexican men have been doing way too much unprotected fucking.

War is the only solution.

Ya, having nukes fly is the solution. Lol You do realize China is nuclear armed right? I guess if ya want cockroaches to be the winner of the dominant species game it makes sense.

Who said anything about nukes, dumbfuck? Nobody will use them. It makes no sense to destroy territory with nukes and make it uninhabitable when territory is the resource most coveted.

See how stupid you?

You are the dumb fuck if ya think they would not be used in war with China. Get bent bitch.

Nukes have been used in war exactly ONE FUCKING TIME.

I'm just gonna sit over here laughing at how stupid you are.

 

[Oddball]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

View attachment 468152

Who said they wanted communism?

That's where talk like this has always ended up....What would make anyone believe this time is different?

Only in the small minds of right wingers.

Not the answer to the question.....What should make me believe it's different this time?

Because I said so.

"I got nothing" uses one word less.

 

[evenflow1969]

So true...no?

The competition model does not work. People competing with each other for jobs and money, nations competing with each other for dominance and resources. It simply is not conducive to the thriving of our species or our planet, as evidenced by our current predicament. - Caitlin Johnstone

There is on other, fair way to do it. Resources are scarce because Chinse, Indian, and Mexican men have been doing way too much unprotected fucking.

War is the only solution.

Ya, having nukes fly is the solution. Lol You do realize China is nuclear armed right? I guess if ya want cockroaches to be the winner of the dominant species game it makes sense.

Who said anything about nukes, dumbfuck? Nobody will use them. It makes no sense to destroy territory with nukes and make it uninhabitable when territory is the resource most coveted.

See how stupid you?

You are the dumb fuck if ya think they would not be used in war with China. Get bent bitch.

Nukes have been used in war exactly ONE FUCKING TIME.

I'm just gonna sit over here laughing at how stupid you are.

Well you have exactly no business carrying a gun. You are gunnavrun your dumb fuckung mouth and wind up dead. You and I get in an argument both are armed I am going to blow your bitch head off while you are thinking about using yours. Two nuclear armed nations have not gone to war you fucking slobbering idiot. You are so fucking stupid I have no business waiting time with your stupid bitch ass iggy