It takes 3/4 of the States to ratify an Amendment to the Constitution: The Electoral College is safe

[bodecea]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

In addition, a national popular vote situation would make it possible for a hostile foreign power to actually rig the nationwide election.

All they would have to do is to get into a single city or state and stuff the ballot box significantly at that single point and the election would be in the bag.

As B. Hussein O so eloquently pointed out before the 2016 election, US Presidential Elections are literally impossible to rig because of their multifocal nature. They really aren't a single election, but multiple elections with different rules everywhere.

Er......no.

 

[bodecea]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Define "smaller states".

 

[iceberg]

My presidential vote has never counted because of the EC. Half of America gets their vote thrown in the trash because of this thing that was only ever meant to keep the slaves enslaved.

so you've always voted for the losing side? while you may not like the system, lets' not get 2 year old WAH over it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?

Are you ok with millions being indoctrinated with free stuff?

 

[Wyatt earp]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?

Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Smaller states EC votes carry more weight. Larger states are indeed disenfranchised by the electoral college.

We would never have the 50 states in the Union as today with out it.


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[iceberg]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?

before we play verbal ping pong here, why don't you go back and look at why the founding fathers did it this way and come back and explain it to us.

you seem to be on a I WANT IT MY WAY WAH kick and i'm pretty sure anything you could come up with to bitch about they already reviewed in depth when they created this system.

 

[Moonglow]

My presidential vote has never counted because of the EC. Half of America gets their vote thrown in the trash because of this thing that was only ever meant to keep the slaves enslaved.

so you've always voted for the losing side? while you may not like the system, lets' not get 2 year old WAH over it.

There was more than one election in US history.

 

[Wyatt earp]

My presidential vote has never counted because of the EC. Half of America gets their vote thrown in the trash because of this thing that was only ever meant to keep the slaves enslaved.

Move

 

[iceberg]

My presidential vote has never counted because of the EC. Half of America gets their vote thrown in the trash because of this thing that was only ever meant to keep the slaves enslaved.

so you've always voted for the losing side? while you may not like the system, lets' not get 2 year old WAH over it.

There was more than one election in US history.

which is what i was saying. in order to be screwed over by the EC you'd have had to have voted in the losing side in every election.

people tend to dramatize shit and wonder why people laugh at 'em.

 

[Wyatt earp]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

If the majority is representative why is gay marriage legal in California when the people voted No?


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[LordBrownTrout]

I'll trust the founders over todays libs 9 out of 7 days in a week.

 

[Cecilie1200]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

In addition, a national popular vote situation would make it possible for a hostile foreign power to actually rig the nationwide election.

All they would have to do is to get into a single city or state and stuff the ballot box significantly at that single point and the election would be in the bag.

As B. Hussein O so eloquently pointed out before the 2016 election, US Presidential Elections are literally impossible to rig because of their multifocal nature. They really aren't a single election, but multiple elections with different rules everywhere.

It's a sad reality that our system of government, such as the Electoral College, has done such a good job of protecting us that many of us are now completely ignorant as to the need for protection, let alone how it's accomplished.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You are 100% correct. Every election would be decided by the States with the most people. All the smile states votes would count for nothing.

No, every election would be decided by the people of America. Each vote having equal value rather than the current system of a vote in Wyoming being worth 3 times the vote of a Californian. One person, one vote.

Not planning to remake the country on the basis of your faulty math equations.

 

[Cecilie1200]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

In other words, they're just going to do an end-run around it to nullify it, rather than abolishing it through the proper channels, because leftists can't advance their agenda honestly.

 

[Cecilie1200]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

You say that as though you think leftists give a shit about people and what they want.

 

[Polishprince]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

In other words, they're just going to do an end-run around it to nullify it, rather than abolishing it through the proper channels, because leftists can't advance their agenda honestly.

The liberal scheme could easily fail. Remember that Hillary Clinton in 2016 did virtually no campaign appearances in California or New York. As a result, they didn't see Mrs.Clinton in those states, and voted for her in massive numbers.

Abolishing the electoral college would have moved Mrs. Clinton out of Flyover Country and into California where those folks would get a chance to see her. Clinton's popularity would sink like a rock, and she wouldn't get nearly the 4 million vote margin she did in the Golden Shower State.

 

[Cecilie1200]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?

There's some 1984 Newspeak bullshit for you. "Propose something that will disenfranchise people, and then pretend that it's going to SAVE them from disenfranchisement." And black is white, up is down . . .

 

[Cecilie1200]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?

Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?

Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.

 

[Polishprince]

This "interstate Pact" situation is also a scheme to give the libs two bites at the apple.

If the D's were to lose a majority of the popular vote, yet would have won in the electoral college, I can't see liberal electors in California voting for Jared Kushner or whomever else the Republicans might put up in 2024 and beyond. They will indicate their "doubts" about the Republican margins in Texas or Tulsa or rural Kentucky, and vote "their consciences" regardless of the national popular vote

 

[LA RAM FAN]

...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

as i say over and over,WHY even bother having a PV when it does not even count that he EC is the only thing that matters in the end?