It takes 3/4 of the States to ratify an Amendment to the Constitution: The Electoral College is safe

Incorrect. If enough states (the magic 270) agree to the popular vote compact, it's done.
Wrong.

That is an unconstitutional interstate compact that becomes federal law if congress consents, thereby bypassing the amendment process and working contrary tot the 12th.

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They are almost there...we’ll maybe get to see...

See what? Whether or not Congress and the Courts let you get away with undermining and destroying our system of government to suit yourselves? Whether or not your incessant tantrums about not being able to get your way on every single thing you demand, every single time you demand it, pushes the nation to the point of an irreconcilable divide?
 
I wouldn't say it's a done deal, even if the Compact reaches 270 it'll get challenged in court. No telling how that goes. Other thing is, what happens if legislatures and governorships in Compact states flip to RED in 2020, they could change their laws and get out of the Compact. It could be that voters in some of those Compact states might vote out the fucking democrats who disenfranchised their vote in 2020. It's going to be an election issue in those states next year, do you want your state's electoral votes to go for the candidate that your state picked or the candidate that the fucking Californians picked? Many of whom probably aren't legal.
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.
even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?


Are you ok with millions being indoctrinated with free stuff?
Who would that be?
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
  1. There is no interstate compact.
  2. What you are calling an interstate compact would not abolish the electoral college.
  3. There is no disenfranchisement either way.
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.
even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?


Are you ok with millions being indoctrinated with free stuff?
Who would that be?


The ones fighting the citizen question



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...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

In other words, they're just going to do an end-run around it to nullify it, rather than abolishing it through the proper channels, because leftists can't advance their agenda honestly.
In other words, they're just going to do an end-run around it to nullify it, rather than abolishing it through the proper channels, because leftists can't advance their agenda honestly.

There is nothing more fair than one person one vote. Every other election works just fine that way. As it stands right now, it's your agenda that is advancing dishonesty.
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.

In other words, they're just going to do an end-run around it to nullify it, rather than abolishing it through the proper channels, because leftists can't advance their agenda honestly.


The liberal scheme could easily fail. Remember that Hillary Clinton in 2016 did virtually no campaign appearances in California or New York. As a result, they didn't see Mrs.Clinton in those states, and voted for her in massive numbers.

Abolishing the electoral college would have moved Mrs. Clinton out of Flyover Country and into California where those folks would get a chance to see her. Clinton's popularity would sink like a rock, and she wouldn't get nearly the 4 million vote margin she did in the Golden Shower State.
I think you place too much importance on campaigning. Why campaign where you already have support?
Why do they need to campaign there at all?
Why do you see that as important?

All of it is televised nearly 24/7 for over a year. The stump speeches are the same with minor additions for regional issues.Then there's all of theonline content that is available.
I don't see how you would learn any more about a candidate by seeing them in person.

As for losing popularity. Well, you just answered your own question. Obviously they would need to maintain their supporters by campaigning.
 
You are 100% correct. Every election would be decided by the States with the most people. All the smile states votes would count for nothing.
No, every election would be decided by the people of America. Each vote having equal value rather than the current system of a vote in Wyoming being worth 3 times the vote of a Californian. One person, one vote.

The average person in Wyoming is likely worth more than three assholes from California likely even more.
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.
even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?
Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
It is. Every other election functions just fine by popular vote.
 
Nobody is abolishing the electoral college. They are working within it to see that the majority is actually represented.
even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?
Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
It is. Every other election functions just fine by popular vote.
Lol
Pure popular vote ~ mob rule
 
The math does not add up for Democrats to win the Senate or the Presidency without rural America.
The Senate is a state vote and a popular vote.
I don't understand your point about rural America. Wouldn't that mean the candidates would have to go there more to gain support?
 
even if it's at the expense of the smaller states?

this really how we push a UNION of American citizens?
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?
Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
It is. Every other election functions just fine by popular vote.
Lol
Pure popular vote ~ mob rule
Sure. By your logic, every elected official in your state from dog catcher to governor was elected by mob rule then.:cuckoo:
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Abolishing the Electoral College would be to disenfranchise the smaller states...

How so?
It’s obvious, Rural America does not have the numbers to matter in a pure popular vote... End of story
Nonsense.
Of course they matter. Each and every vote is counted.
Lol
Rural America would lose every single presidential election with a pure popular vote... That is all there is to it. Thank God for the electoral college
 
My presidential vote has never counted because of the EC. Half of America gets their vote thrown in the trash because of this thing that was only ever meant to keep the slaves enslaved.


Move

Good idea. Live where the people are.


Never the the ghetto? And why are you liberals so needy?



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Needy?
LOL...
It's you dopes that need the electoral welfare. Or maybe it's more like affirmative action. :laugh2:
 
Are you OK with it being used to disenfranchise millions of voters in the larger states?
Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
It is. Every other election functions just fine by popular vote.
Lol
Pure popular vote ~ mob rule
Sure. By your logic, every elected official in your state from dog catcher to governor was elected by mob rule then.:cuckoo:
Lol
This is supposed to be a republic not a shit eating democracy... Pay attention boy
 
...and it takes a Constitutional amendment, not an interstate compact, to abolish the Electoral College.

Abolishing the Electoral College would be to disenfranchise the smaller states...

How so?
It’s obvious, Rural America does not have the numbers to matter in a pure popular vote... End of story
Nonsense.
Of course they matter. Each and every vote is counted.
Lol
Rural America would lose every single presidential election with a pure popular vote... That is all there is to it. Thank God for the electoral college

So, you're saying that the system as it is now is artificially propping up their lack of power.

Sounds like affirmative action.
 
Larger state have more EC votes, they're not at all "disenfranchised"

Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
Their math is built on the faulty premise of acting as though the popular vote is already in effect and meaningful.
It is. Every other election functions just fine by popular vote.
Lol
Pure popular vote ~ mob rule
Sure. By your logic, every elected official in your state from dog catcher to governor was elected by mob rule then.:cuckoo:
Lol
This is supposed to be a republic not a shit eating democracy... Pay attention boy

You still have your two Senators, fool.
Right now they're the only thing keeping Trump out of prison.
 

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