The boxes under the table happen but it was not fraud. They explained that that is the process that they use. put boxes under the table until they are needed for the next phase of the process.
The guy who made the statement of delivering boxes is the word of one man who didn't bother to take pictures of this evidence. The same guy who claims he sees ghosts and takes videos of his search for ghosts. Yeah you seem to want to believe this guy story. Why because it sound convenient. Still one person word is not proof. where is the evidence. But I can understand if you can relate to him as he sees ghosts.
Saddest thing is that you might actually believe this.
The saddest thing is that you do believe the word of one man that there is fraud with no proof. The only proof you have is it appeared on television. Now that is sad.
Pictures of boxes under the table being record by video and that is proof enough for you. I would say it is sad but it is about par when someone desperately needs to believe something and they take the easy way out. Someone told me it was true.
Carone the star witness Wayne County Circuit Judge Timothy Kenn on November 13 concluded that Carone’s “allegations are simply not credible
There are police reports accusing Mellissa Anne Wright of crimes. Online databases show Carone has used the name Mellissa Carone-Wright
One lawsuit claimed that Carone sent “pornographic videos of herself” and her current boyfriend, the father of the other woman’s child, and then told police the other woman had hacked into her email and stolen the videos.
I can see why she is so believable to the right.
Ask yourself this Anne, why has there been no convictions of all the incidents you have pasted and copied. If it is a crime then take it to court.
Ask yourself why is it run in every right wing outlet. Well I will answer it for you. Because news outlets do not require proof only someone making a statement.
"The saddest thing is that you do believe the word of one man that there is fraud with no proof. The only proof you have is it appeared on television. Now that is sad. "
No proof????
Only imbeciles like you are still claiming 'no proof.'
Actually, your side has admitted it.
The progression that proves the premise:
No evidence of voter fraud!
No evidence of widespread voter fraud!
Not enough evidence of widespread voter fraud!
Not enough evidence of widespread voter fraud has been proven!
Not enough evidence of widespread voter fraud has been proven that would change or alter the election!
It's pretty much their admission that they stole the election from the man who actually won it, and gave it to the bought and paid for servant of Communist China.
But they might have this much in their argument: not widespread......but targeted voter fraud- in the swing states.
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Radical and unhinged. Keep it up and stay focused on Trump lost the election. Admit that Trump lost and the only issues is that he attempted to commit election fraud when he called the AG for more votes. Talked with repub congressman to change the electoral vote so that he would win.
Also he got political chic, Rudy, and that other lawyer to make his case. Proof of election fraud is not the same as saying there is election fraud.
Of course there was fraud, a stolen election.....
.....that's why you are so panicked.
Let's review the details:
Sen. Rand Paul Joins ABC's "This Week" - January 24, 2021 describing what we know of the election
SENATOR RAND PAUL, (R-KY): Well, what I would say is that the debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur,
we never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question.
There were several states in which the law was changed by the secretary of state and not the state legislature. To me, those are clearly unconstitutional…
Were there people who voted twice? Were there dead people who voted? Were there illegal aliens who voted? Yes, and we should get to the bottom of it.
I’ll give you an example. In my state, when we had a Democrat secretary of state, she refused, even under federal order, to purge the roles of illegal voters.
In Wisconsin, tens of thousands of absentee votes had only the name on them and no address. Historically those were thrown out, this time they weren't. They made special accommodations because they said, oh, it’s a pandemic and people forgot what their address was.
So they changed the law after the fact. That is wrong,
that's unconstitutional…. I won’t be cowed by liberals in the media who say, there's no evidence here and you're a liar if you talk about
election fraud.
I believe
in Pennsylvania, they broke the law, and I believe if that ever will get a real hearing in the Supreme Court, it was denied for standing. It wasn’t actually taken up. If it were taken up, I do believe that the Supreme Court would overrule and say that they did break the law illegally.
It was never studied.
Should we investigate the fact that tens of thousands of absentee ballots did not have addresses on them and normally were disqualified, but this time, they were counted? Should we examine that?
I think there was great deal of evidence of fraud and changing of the election laws illegally. And I think a thorough investigation is warranted.”
… I want to look at election fraud and I want to look at secretaries of state who
illegally changed the voter laws without the permission of their state legislatures.
That is incontrovertible, it happened.
And you can't just sweep it under the rug and say, oh, nothing to see here, and
everybody is a liar and you're a fool if you bring this up.”
Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Vivek Murthy were on "This Week" Sunday, January 24. This is a rush transcript and may be updated.
abcnews.go.com
Did that upset you????
Excellent.
That hardly upset me. Rand offers no proof and it just his opinion and like Trump does not understand anything. Guess he will be running in 2024 as the younger version of Trump
Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question.
Most of the cases well that implies some cases were heard. So show me the fraud based on those cases heard
Lack of standing
Standing is the ability of a party to bring a lawsuit in court based upon their stake in the outcome. A party seeking to demonstrate
standing must be able to show the court sufficient connection to and harm from the law or action challenged. Otherwise, the court will rule that you "
lack standing" to bring the suit and dismiss your case.
Lingo for you
Don't waste our time because you will lose your case in the end. So get lost The case you submitted does not show fraud. Your just keeping Trump happy by submitting suits on his behalf.
Legal question about whether states can do what they did. Well one suit was heard and the judge did throw it out. Saying if you were against it why didn't you file a case when it became changed. Why are you waiting years later and bringing the suit because your guy lost.
Legal question about the election process will be determined in a court of law. Not the court of right wing sites and detractors. Show me a case where something was overturned. Do not quote Rand a know Trump wannabe who is speaking to his boys.
Rand said the problem was that in Wisconsin the ballots had the name but no address. That was wrong. It was the witness who signed and had some address errors of the witness. It was not the voter. Republican made this suggestion to have a witness address and if it was in error how it should be cured.
Big mistake if you can't even articulate the reason or understand the reason why ballots should be thrown out.
The law in Wisconsin. Voters have to registered. To request mail in ballots they have to show ID. Exception are for those who are sick and cannot go to locations to show ID. They will also need a witness sign the mail in ballot.
Still it was the repubs in Wisconsin who proposed the remedy of witness address errors. Such as they didn't fill out the municipality. Clerks can rectify simple errors like that instead of throwing ballot out. The STATE required the witness signature and then because of some minor issues with address then the voter ballot gets thrown outt. No way Jose. If the clerk can remedy by looking up the municipality then it is all good. That is the humane thing to do.
That is how Trump got elected
I believe
in Pennsylvania, they broke the law
Well what you believe is not the law.
Laws changed in another state are unconstitutional. Wow that is a big word. Take it to court instead of using big words that have no meaning as they still exist and have not been struck down. He is not a lawyers or judge and it is just his opinion.
Still that does not show voter fraud. It just making excuses for why Trump lost. Instead of the obvious Truth that he was voted out of office by the opposition.
Wisconsin. How can he say vote fraud when he can not even define what the issue is.
The problem was with the address of the witness Yet this policy was used in the 2016 election. I didn't hear Trump or Rand complain then. Did you annie?
well general this procedure was place in 2016 which allow the clerks wait to remedy the situation of witness address problems
Trump did a lawsuit and they heard the case and they ruled against Trump based on the claim of the witness address problems. The court ruled that the procedure that they had in place in 2016 was the same one that was used in 2020. The were not going to throw out votes in 2020. If it was a problem then Trump should have contested it in 2016 when they did the same thing. The trump team could not explain why now it is a problem now when it wasn't a problem before.
If you and rand thing that it is a problem now then now is the time to bring a suit about how they process witness address problem. Explain why it should be done away with or illegal.
Break it down for you
This is not voter fraud, it is just procedural ways they do things.
Don't cry Annie.