It doesn’t add up- who benefits from Israel invasion?

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

[Russians = Civilized = A joke]

Thirty days after they arrived, amid a fierce Ukrainian counteroffensive, the Russians left Trostianets in a convoy of tanks, other armour, trucks full of loot and numerous stolen vehicles they had daubed with Z signs, the symbol of their invading force.

The carnage they left behind will be remembered by the residents of this quaint, historical spa town of 20,000 residents for the rest of their lives, and is yet another indictment of the results of Russia’s unwanted “liberation” mission in Ukraine.

‘Barbarians’: Russian troops leave grisly mark on town of Trostianets

On a two-day visit, the Guardian found evidence of summary executions, torture and looting

www.theguardian.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/06/hroza-kharkiv-missile-strike-ukraine/

Every war has its bad players. There’s war criminals from every country. Russia is a civilized country and a supporter of Israel. You can travel between Russia and Israel without a visa. There’s 100,000 Israeli Jews living in Russia. Come on man get informed.

Without the Russians including Soviet Jews, 500,000 of them fighting for the ussr .. Many many more Jews would’ve been exterminated by the German and Ukrainian Nazis.



Your comments continue to be profoundly surprising, considering you claim to support the Jewish people

 

[rampart]

Roseanne Barr, who is Jewish and who has been a target for the far left wing is making some very informed points. She has family in Israel. And she like any God-fearing person is saying what about the children of all of these conflicts.

One of the panelists further brought up that there are multiple videos of his IDF intelligence officials saying “ there is zero chance with our security that nobody knew that this was coming” 15:30 mark of the video

Roseanne brought up how Egypt warned Israel days ahead of this attack by hamas and Iranian agents… and Israel did nothing about that warning.



Because we have after all the fanatics like Lindsey, Graham and Nikki Haley saying let Israel do whatever it wants, let Ukraine do whatever it wants when it comes to those conflicts. So that should be a red flag for any God-fearing Christian, or any good person in general.

Of course, there’s no comparing Russia to Hamas. Of course, Russia is a civilized country and they had a very strong military certainly can’t even be compared to Hamas, which is nothing. Hamas has nothing except small arms. And some low level rockets.

“Let them do whatever they want”

Well, Ok that would put them into the same category as Al-Qaeda.

Hamas cannot exterminate the Jewish people. And nobody except for going back 75 years the “Nazis” including Ukrainian ones, had the ability or even desire to wipe out Jews.

The recent events in Israel could be used by bad players of the world to destroy the agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel. Everyone should think about that. Think about who benefits from this war in Israel, ….the military industrial complex, of course. It also benefits extremists in Israel, who want to wipe off Palestine and take it over perhaps.

sure got trump out of the headlines.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

This, even moreso than 9/11 had to be a failure and mix of a perfect storm. From my viewing of videos and learning thus far, very early in this war obviously; it appears the Hamas fooled Israel into believing they wanted no part in any more.fights. Lulled them to sleep for nearly a decade. Then, probably with help from Russia and Iran, they probably identified the spies in their midst and played them (and might have spies in israel too). Iran and Russia are both experts at this, they ensured Israel.would hear what they want to hear. Then they compartmentalized information not even telling them that their prsctice.run was.real until it was go time. They were training right under Israels noses, right under their drones. It was.a holdiay and Shabbat, most soldiers were stationed North, not expecting Hamas to ever strike. It was the perfect storm. I wll read the book after this war is over to learn how they did it is astonishing. This government failed it's people and they will not fail them again, at least as it concerns Hamas... This is mostly from a couple of well followed Israeli social media channels. Without emotion, they clinically outlined what their sources told them.

There are those in Iran, who hate Israel. But no, it can’t be Russia and here’s why. Russia views hamas as a terrorist organization

There’s 100,000 Israeli Jews living in Russia. Israelis and Russians often travel to each other’s country. Russian is the third most spoken language in Israel. And of course nobody can forget the 500,000 Soviet Jews who fought against the German and Ukrainian Nazis who were attempting to exterminate every Jew of the world….putting Jewish babies and mothers into ovens.

“Famed Soviet physicist killed by Hamas – media​

11 Oct, 2023 00:30 / Updated 14 hours ago

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81-year-old Sergey Gredeskul taught at Ben-Gurion University
Notable theoretical physicist Sergey Gredeskul and his wife Viktoria have been killed by Hamas militants at their home in southern Israel, Russian media outlets reported on Tuesday evening.
“On October 7, during a terrorist attack by Hamas militants, Sergei Andreevich Gredeskul and his wife were killed in their home in the city of Ofakim,” Aleksey Khokhlov, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAN), posted on Telegram.”

Not too long ago even during the Russia Ukraine war, the Prime Minister of Israel, Naftali Bennett had a visit with Vladimir Putin in Russia.

 

[Votto]

Not only do you engage in unprovoked personal attacks but you are extremely easy to persuade. Look further into things buddy.

Don’t believe everything big government tells you. Have more depth to your points.

The Blogs: Franklin Roosevelt Was an Anti-Semite

From the blog of Bob Ryan at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

You want a conspiracy do ya? How about the conspiracy by FDR to keep Jews out of the US during the Holocaust?

Actually, that conspiracy has been proven because FDR knew about the Nazi atrocities and it is well documented he decided to kick them back into the genocide rather than have the dirty Jews take refuge in the US

But yet you insist on keeping him as your avatar.

Why?

Democrats have a long history of racism and antisemitism and it is beyond time to call them out on it.

 

[fncceo]

Roseanne Barr, who is Jewish and who has been a target for the far left wing is making some very informed points. She has family in Israel. And she like any God-fearing person is saying what about the children of all of these conflicts.

One of the panelists further brought up that there are multiple videos of his IDF intelligence officials saying “ there is zero chance with our security that nobody knew that this was coming” 15:30 mark of the video

I don't think I'm going out on a limb by speculating that Ms Barr (despite her ethnicity) is NOT highly placed in the intelligence community and may possibly NOT have access to the minute inner workings of global intelligence agencies.

In other words, I don't believe I'd be wrong in saying that, she's talking out of her tuchas.

 

[Crepitus]

who benefits from Israel invasion?​

Netanyahu

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The Blogs: Franklin Roosevelt Was an Anti-Semite

From the blog of Bob Ryan at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Hang on a second. This is a different topic you bring up. The point was it was a conservative Trump supporter who brought up the point that the Israeli intelligence officials said what they said. So there you go. Now to address your other completely different point happily .

You want a conspiracy do ya? How about the conspiracy by FDR to keep Jews out of the US during the Holocaust?

Actually, that conspiracy has been proven because FDR knew about the Nazi atrocities and it is well documented he decided to kick them back into the genocide rather than have the dirty Jews take refuge in the US

But yet you insist on keeping him as your avatar.

Why?

Democrats have a long history of racism and antisemitism and it is beyond time to call them out on it.

That’s a myth created by anti-Americans attempting to tear us up. There’s also the MS St. Louis myth, the myth that Roosevelt turned back a ship of Jewish refugees back to Germany. Never happened. That ship was sent back safely to allied countries that were only later on taken over by the third Reich.

According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the United States did more for Jewish refugees than any other country of the world. And it’s of course Franklin Roosevelt he’s admired by every World War II veteran so I rest my case

 

[Rocko]

Netanyahu

Not at all. Why would he want the biggest terrorist attack in his country’s history on his watch?

 

[Lemmi]

The reason for the attack was because Hamas's prime directive is to wipe out Jews and Israel. The timing of the attack was because Saudi Arabia was slowly normalizing relations with Israel and the Ayatollahs in Iran saw this as a threat to their hegemony. They turned loose their attack dogs at the time of their choosing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Roseanne Barr, who is Jewish and who has been a target for the far left wing is making some very informed points. She has family in Israel. And she like any God-fearing person is saying what about the children of all of these conflicts.

One of the panelists further brought up that there are multiple videos of his IDF intelligence officials saying “ there is zero chance with our security that nobody knew that this was coming” 15:30 mark of the video

Roseanne brought up how Egypt warned Israel days ahead of this attack by hamas and Iranian agents… and Israel did nothing about that warning.



Because we have after all the fanatics like Lindsey, Graham and Nikki Haley saying let Israel do whatever it wants, let Ukraine do whatever it wants when it comes to those conflicts. So that should be a red flag for any God-fearing Christian, or any good person in general.

Of course, there’s no comparing Russia to Hamas. Of course, Russia is a civilized country and they had a very strong military certainly can’t even be compared to Hamas, which is nothing. Hamas has nothing except small arms. And some low level rockets.

“Let them do whatever they want”

Well, Ok that would put them into the same category as Al-Qaeda.

Hamas cannot exterminate the Jewish people. And nobody except for going back 75 years the “Nazis” including Ukrainian ones, had the ability or even desire to wipe out Jews.

The recent events in Israel could be used by bad players of the world to destroy the agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel. Everyone should think about that. Think about who benefits from this war in Israel, ….the military industrial complex, of course. It also benefits extremists in Israel, who want to wipe off Palestine and take it over perhaps.

When does ANYTHING Muslim terrorists do "add up"?

They need no motivation to kill infidels.

 

[Crepitus]

Not at all. Why would he want the biggest terrorist attack in his country’s history on his watch?

A. the distraction.

B. excuse to become more authoritarian.

This isn't that hard, nor is it a huge leap.

 

[Rocko]

A. the distraction.

B. excuse to become more authoritarian.

This isn't that hard, nor is it a huge leap.

So Netanyahu knew about the terrorist attacks and did nothing to stop them?

 

[whitehall]

If you depend on people like Roseanne Barr for complicated international analysis you might as well stay ignorant. Even a substandard president like FDR would recognize the hatred and genocide inherent in terrorist groups like Hamas. Factor in the probability that Israel was about to reach an historic accord with the Saudis and you have a motive for unleashing monsters to commit unspeakable brutality against Jewish citizens.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Every war has its bad players. There’s war criminals from every country. Russia is a civilized country and a supporter of Israel. You can travel between Russia and Israel without a visa. There’s 100,000 Israeli Jews living in Russia. Come on man get informed.

Without the Russians including Soviet Jews, 500,000 of them fighting for the ussr .. Many many more Jews would’ve been exterminated by the German and Ukrainian Nazis.



Your comments continue to be profoundly surprising, considering you claim to support the Jewish people

Russia does not support Israel. Never has. It wanted Israel to become communist in 1948 and Israel refused.


After that Russia helped Arafat create a new nationality against Israel. The Palestinians.


Russia is not a friend to anyone, especially democracies.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Netanyahu

No way, he is hurt the most. Like any wartime leader he will get a short term boost frm a unified country.but the country is pissed at him and his govt now. As the dark days arrive and the war unwinds, he will forever be stained as the PM in charge when over a thousand (and counting) Israel citizens perished. He has been hurt the most, now he can't even point to the nornalization with S.A as a major win. Look at GWBs legacy, has it aged well?

 

[sparky]

Like any wartime leader he will get a short term boost frm a unified country.but the country is pissed at him and his govt now

Maybe he could do lunch with Zelenskyy.....~S~

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

At all costs, we must avoid World War III. We cannot have a World War III not in the nuclear age.

Roseann was making this brilliant point that the hatred we see between Trump supporters and Biden supporters, the hatred between Israelis in Palestinians is manufactured. And it is the people at the top from all over the world who are the number one problem. They don’t go and fight in wars. But they want the working class people of the world to hate each other, and in the end, they will not win.

There is this growing move all over the world of common sense and reality. People embracing greatness. There’s a lot of wonderful things happening in more to come.

 

[Kilroy2]

Egypt never warned Israel of possible Gaza attack, official says - report

Egypt did not ever warn Israel of a major attack from Gaza in the days leading up to the current war with Hama

www.jpost.com

There are stories that deny that Egypt gave them any warning.

Egypt did not ever warn Israel of a major attack from Gaza in the days leading up to the current war with Hamas, an Egyptian official told the newspaper Al-Shuruk on Wednesday.

It doesn't matter. The real story is how they tested the defense system. Israel may have been over confident in its ability and thus it was tested. They will have to regroup and see if this can be salvaged.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Egypt never warned Israel of possible Gaza attack, official says - report

Egypt did not ever warn Israel of a major attack from Gaza in the days leading up to the current war with Hama

www.jpost.com

There are stories that deny that Egypt gave them any warning.

Egypt did not ever warn Israel of a major attack from Gaza in the days leading up to the current war with Hamas, an Egyptian official told the newspaper Al-Shuruk on Wednesday.

It doesn't matter. The real story is how they tested the defense system. Israel may have been over confident in its ability and thus it was tested. They will have to regroup and see if this can be salvaged.

Still even with what you say it is Israeli intelligence officials on camera saying this Hamas/Iran attack could not have occurred without people in Israel knowing about it.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I love what Tucker Carlson recently said. Talking about “I stand with Israel” people like Lindsey Graham..Tucker was saying these types of fanatical warmongers don’t have a good sex life or none at all. Those types of people have nothing to lose, they don’t have a family dont have children, so they are pushing for war and materialism.


So the problem is not your typical supporter of Israel in America or Israel. The problem is not with your average Palestinian, Israeli or Iranian. They’re all wonderful people.

It’s that we have to look at some of these people in the top positions of power throughout the world and how they perhaps want World War III. They want working class people all over the world to be divided. It ain’t gonna work out for them though in the end.