"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[aris2chat]

Ho ho ho. Now that was funny. No such thing as Arabs or Islam 2000 years ago. Te Arabs who call themselves Palestinians today are 20th and 21st century Invaders from neighboring Arab lands. That is a fact.

I was right. You are a dumbass.



The first written attestation of the ethnonym "Arab" occurs in an Assyrian inscription of 853 BCE, where Shalmaneser III lists a King Gindibu of mâtu arbâi (Arab land) as among the people he defeated at the Battle of Karkar. Some of the names given in these texts are Aramaic, while others are the first attestations of Ancient North Arabian dialects. In fact several different ethnonyms are found in Assyrian texts that are conventionally translated "Arab": Arabi, Arubu, Aribi and Urbi. Many of the Qedarite queens were also described as queens of the aribi. The Hebrew Bible occasionally refers to Aravi peoples (or variants thereof), translated as "Arab" or "Arabian." The scope of the term at that early stage is unclear, but it seems to have referred to various desert-dwelling Semitic tribes in the Syrian Desert and Arabia.[citation needed] Arab tribes came into conflict with the Assyrians during the reign of the Assyrian king Ashurbanipal, and he records military victories against the powerful Qedar tribe among others.

Medieval Arab genealogists divided Arabs into three groups:
"Ancient Arabs", tribes that had vanished or been destroyed, such as ʿĀd and Thamud, often mentioned in the Qur'an as examples of God's power to vanquish those who fought his prophets.
"Pure Arabs" of South Arabia, descending from Qahtan. The Qahtanites (Qahtanis) are said to have migrated from the land of Yemen following the destruction of the Ma'rib Dam (sadd Ma'rib).
The "Arabized Arabs" (musta`ribah) of central and North Arabia, descending from Ishmael the elder son of Abraham. The Book of Genesis narrates that God promised Hagar to beget from Ishmael twelve princes and turn him to a great nation.(Genesis 17:20) The Book of Jubilees, in the other hand, claims that the sons of Ishmael intermingled with the 6 sons of Keturah, from Abraham, and their descendants were called Arabs and Ishmaelites:


And Ishmael and his sons, and the sons of Keturah and their sons, went together and dwelt from Paran to the entering in of Babylon in all the land which is towards the East facing the desert. And these mingled with each other, and their name was called Arabs, and Ishmaelites.

—Book of Jubilees 20:13

Ibn Khaldun's Muqaddima distinguishes between sedentary Muslims who used to be nomadic Arabs and the Bedouin nomadic Arabs of the desert. He used the term "formerly nomadic" Arabs and refers to sedentary Muslims by the region or city they lived in, as in Egyptians, Spaniards and Yemenis.[97] The Christians of Italy and the Crusaders preferred the term Saracens for all the Arabs and Muslims of that time.[98] The Christians of Iberia used the term Moor to describe all the Arabs and Muslims of that time.

Muslims of Medina referred to the nomadic tribes of the deserts as the A'raab, and considered themselves sedentary, but were aware of their close racial bonds. The term "A'raab' mirrors the term Assyrians used to describe the closely related nomads they defeated in Syria.

Arab people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aramaic speaking people get aid from the bedouin tribes of the deserts against the assyrians and fight a battle in what today is norther syria.

Arab and Islamic genealogies identify Yarrob as the grandson of Hud (biblical Eber) and son of Qahtan (biblical Joktan), and the ancestor of the Himyarite kings of Yemen.

 

[Phoenall]

Not by natural population growth, births. Israel absorbed the jews forced out from the muslim world and those from elsewhere in the world. They have managed to still provide and grow their economy despite the increase of population.

The Arab Israeli population has grown by more than 1,000% for one single reason.

Their births outpace their deaths. That's it.

If their population can grow from 156,000 to 1,600,000 from 1949 to 2013, then their population can grow from 600,000 in 1922 to 1,400,000 in 1949.

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Unless of course you have abandoned logic and reason.

Which means that you cant claim ethnic cleansing any more as that would show a net reduction in the population. Very soon laws will be passed to limit population growth in most civilised nations as the worlds food is running short

 

[Victory67]

Which means that you cant claim ethnic cleansing any more as that would show a net reduction in the population. Very soon laws will be passed to limit population growth in most civilised nations as the worlds food is running short

Keep dreaming. Most western nations will never adopt population controls.

 

[Victory67]

Ho ho ho. Now that was funny. No such thing as Arabs or Islam 2000 years ago in ancient Israel. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians today are 20th and 21st century invaders from neighboring Arab lands. That is a fact.

Sorry buddy but all the best research shows this is a lie.

 

[Phoenall]

Wow, the intelligence just oozes out of you. Some Arabs decided to stay and enjoy being Israeli citizens. They now comprise part of the 1.8 million Arab citizens inside Israel. The ones that decided to join the Arab countries in destroying Israel are now in the West Bank and Gaza, and they've multiplied like rats. So your claim of ethnic cleansing is just like this notion of a "Palestinian nation"...A HOAX.

Just as Neo-Nazis call the Holocaust a "hoax". Interesting how low you are willing to go.

1.2 million down to 150,000 Arabs is ethnic cleansing. Thank God they didn't complete the job but I know that brings tears to your eyes.

But who ran them of their land is the big question, do we go with the unsupported islamonazi blood libels, Or do we go with the historical accounts that show it was the arab army commanders.

Still don't know were you get your figure of 1.2 million from as the 1948 population figures for Israel are no were near that.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you saying Israel has allowed in hundreds of thousands of Arabs, so as to dilute the Jewish majority? You're such a dumbass!

Wow, the intelligence just oozes out of you. Some Arabs decided to stay and enjoy being Israeli citizens. They now comprise part of the 1.8 million Arab citizens inside Israel. The ones that decided to join the Arab countries in destroying Israel are now in the West Bank and Gaza, and they've multiplied like rats. So your claim of ethnic cleansing is just like this notion of a "Palestinian nation"...A HOAX.

Decided to stay?

They had lived there for 2,000 years.. Some families had lived in the same homes and farmed the same patches of land for 500 years.

The operative word being some, as most were penniless wandering workers that came from other nations on the promise of work. It was the Jews that had lived there uninterrupted for 3,000 years, the muslims did not come on the scene until 630 C.E. and proceeded to expel Jews from their land rather than work at making the land fertile.

 

[Victory67]

But who ran them of their land is the big question, do we go with the unsupported islamonazi blood libels, Or do we go with the historical accounts that show it was the arab army commanders.

Still don't know were you get your figure of 1.2 million from as the 1948 population figures for Israel are no were near that.

You sound just like a Holocaust denier, disregarding population numbers that have been put in your face time and time again.

I have given you the numbers but you don't care.

 

[Victory67]

The operative word being some, as most were penniless wandering workers that came from other nations on the promise of work. It was the Jews that had lived there uninterrupted for 3,000 years, the muslims did not come on the scene until 630 C.E. and proceeded to expel Jews from their land rather than work at making the land fertile.

Many of the inhabitatants of Palestine converted to Islam after the Muslim conquest.

 

[Roudy]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
-Arab writer and journalist.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -

 

[Victory67]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

You should stop pulling false and unsubstantiated quotes out of your ass. It only increases anti-Semitism. Lies about Muslims and Arabs fuels anti-Semitism.

 

[toastman]

Victory67 (AKA Hoff) you are seriously obsessed with anti semitism. The only thing that fuels is it hatred for Jews

 

[Roudy]

But who ran them of their land is the big question, do we go with the unsupported islamonazi blood libels, Or do we go with the historical accounts that show it was the arab army commanders.

Still don't know were you get your figure of 1.2 million from as the 1948 population figures for Israel are no were near that.

You sound just like a Holocaust denier, disregarding population numbers that have been put in your face time and time again.

I have given you the numbers but you don't care.

I'd say that's what you are doing. Your futile attempts at denying the history if Israel.

 

[Roudy]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

You should stop pulling false and unsubstantiated quotes out of your ass. It only increases anti-Semitism. Lies about Muslims and Arabs fuels anti-Semitism.

Those are not false quotes. Prove it.

 

[Victory67]

Victory67 (AKA Hoff) you are seriously obsessed with anti semitism. The only thing that fuels is it hatred for Jews

Israeli crimes against non-Jews fuels anti-Semitism.

Israeli racism and racism by Israel-lovers fuels anti-Semitism.

The sooner you realize the safer Jews around the world will be.

 

[Roudy]

Victory67 (AKA Hoff) you are seriously obsessed with anti semitism. The only thing that fuels is it hatred for Jews

According to Defeat67, Jews shouldn't respond to lies and false propaganda...it increases anti semetism. Typical IslamoNazi mentality.

 

[Roudy]

Victory67 (AKA Hoff) you are seriously obsessed with anti semitism. The only thing that fuels is it hatred for Jews

Israeli crimes against non-Jews fuels anti-Semitism.

Israeli racism and racism by Israel-lovers fuels anti-Semitism.

The sooner you realize the safer Jews around the world will be.

Not a thing in those three sentences was true.

 

[Victory67]

Those are not false quotes. Prove it.

You posted the so-called "quotes" without any evidence the are real.

You going to back them up or not?

Until I see evidence they are real I call bullshit.

 

[Phoenall]

British research proves that the idea of a massive migration of Arabs into Mandate Palestine are a myth. Plus the fact that the Arab natural growth rate in Israel was just as high or greater, without any immigration.

Whoa there . Where did you read that ?

I've posted it maybe 5 times already.

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

47.Jump up ^ Paul Blair (April 18, 2002). "Special Report: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict Over Palestine". Capitalism Magazine. Unknown parameter |part= ignored (help)
48.Jump up ^ Anglo-American Commission report, Section 4.4. "Of this Moslem growth by 472,000, only 19,000 was accounted for by immigration."
49.Jump up ^ Hope Simpson report, p. 158. "The natural increase of the Arab population since the census of 1922 has been estimated at 26 per thousand per annum."
50.Jump up ^ Passfield White Paper, para 17. "the Arab population, while lacking the advantages enjoyed by the Jewish settlers, has, by the excess of births over deaths, increased with great rapidity"
51.Jump up ^ , the Peel Commission report, pp. 125,282. "unlike the Jewish, the rise has been due in only a slight degree to immigration."
52.Jump up ^ Survey of Palestine, p140. "the expansion of the Moslem and Christian populations is due mainly to natural increase, while that of the Jews is due mainly to immigration."
53.^ Jump up to: a b c Government of Palestine (1933). E. Mills, ed. Census of Palestine 1931. I. Palestine Part I, Report. Alexandria. pp. 59, 61–65.

Cant find those exact words in either link, would you like to try again only this time find a link that contains the exact words.

 

[Roudy]

This is one of my favorite quotes. From one of the founders of the PLO. he's quite honest about it.

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

 

[Victory67]

Not a thing in those three sentences was true.

So American war crimes don't influence opinions of Americans?

Bullshit. You think Israel is so special that they are immune from criticism and can do nothing wrong.