Israel wants its spy back

[Daniyel]

Give it a rest. You are so obviously the same anti-Semite as you always have been. If Pollard had been a Hundu or any other religion and I read that others were released and he was still in prison, I would have thought the same. Now complain about Pollard at your next Bund meeting. That could be the main topic at the meeting.

No, you give it a rest . . . a BIG rest please. I've never been anti-Semitic; however on many occasions I have indeed been very anti-Israel. I firmly believe that Israel, primarily through AIPAC, holds far too much sway over Congress which makes for a very unhealthy America. ~ Susan

Yeah, yeah, you are only anti-Israel no matter when you even had a chance to discuss what was going on to people in the other Middle East countries. Give us a break. Those who are familiar with you know what you are all about.

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

 

[montelatici]

No, you give it a rest . . . a BIG rest please. I've never been anti-Semitic; however on many occasions I have indeed been very anti-Israel. I firmly believe that Israel, primarily through AIPAC, holds far too much sway over Congress which makes for a very unhealthy America. ~ Susan

Yeah, yeah, you are only anti-Israel no matter when you even had a chance to discuss what was going on to people in the other Middle East countries. Give us a break. Those who are familiar with you know what you are all about.

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

 

[toastman]

Yeah, yeah, you are only anti-Israel no matter when you even had a chance to discuss what was going on to people in the other Middle East countries. Give us a break. Those who are familiar with you know what you are all about.

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

If you had a proper grasp of the history of the conflict, then your post would be viable. But coming from a liar who relies on propaganda to promote his agenda, your post means squat.

 

[eagle1462010]

The man sold out his own country. He only later became a citizen of Israel as they felt guilty for him getting life in prison.

He sold information to the highest bidder while swearing an oath to his service and to keep Top Secret, Secret, and etc................protected. He sold sensitive information, PERIOD...............I've had some of these clearances...........and even under those clearances you only look at WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. There are SEVERE PENALTIES for releasing this information...................and rightfully show.

Let him rot in Jail. For what he did, he should have been freaking shot.

 

[Daniyel]

Yeah, yeah, you are only anti-Israel no matter when you even had a chance to discuss what was going on to people in the other Middle East countries. Give us a break. Those who are familiar with you know what you are all about.

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

The Hamas and Palestinians is by their vast majority Arab Muslim supporting a Muslim state where Christians condemned to die, while in Israel Christmas flourish (Israelis) which iswhy Christians support Israel(Israelis and Palestinians) so after you will done supporting the Palestinians over Israelis you will find yourself supporting Christian (5% of? )Palestinians to make it a secular state where in the meantime be a Muslim Shari'a state and all of the Christians in Israel would find themselves dead.
Christians can't live with radical Islam, period.

 

[Lipush]

If Pollard truly did this out of a misguided sense of loyalty to Israel, I might feel more lenient but he didn't.

Perhaps. But the moment he asked Israel not to release him because of American pressure, because he doesn't want Israelis suffering because of him (the deal was his release in exchange of Palestinian prisoners' release from Israeli jails), he is automatically enters the Israeli lists as a righteous.

 

[Lipush]

I don't feel sympathetic to any spies. They profited off their greed by selling out their country. Why should he be released early?

How is 30 years considered 'early'?

And how come an "Israeli spy" is punished with 30 years, but Iranian spy gets out before you can blink?

Yeah, tell us more about how friendly is the American government.

Each case is different. Why SHOULD he be released? He didn't just spy for Israel. That's the strawman here. He shopped his services to other countries and information he sold ended up in other countries such as USSR, Pakistan.

If Pollard is being punished because he's Jewish, why was Ben-ami - another Israeli spy caught in the same time frame - released with a fine?

Don't know if he's being punished because he's Jewish, he's being punished because Obama's regime gains benefits from it.

He should be released because it's been 30 years. They could have excecuted him, instead they chose to jail him. He had his punishment, that's why he should be released.

Or is it that only Israel should release prisoners, while we ask the American to release one man, who is sick and no danger to anyone, it's recieved with a scowl? While you demand us to release thousands of bloodthirsty killers for Hamas?

How is THAT fair?

Because he abused his trust......you are just bringing in the Jewish element to cause confusion.....who cares if the Guy is Jewish,Jaine,French or Aussie.....it is all a matter of trust........was he an Israeli plant ????????

I didn't say it matterered. Don't remember putting the Jewish aspect in it. Coyote asked me if I believe it's the reason, why you're barking at me, I mean, WTF?

 

[montelatici]

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

The Hamas and Palestinians is by their vast majority Arab Muslim supporting a Muslim state where Christians condemned to die, while in Israel Christmas flourish (Israelis) which iswhy Christians support Israel(Israelis and Palestinians) so after you will done supporting the Palestinians over Israelis you will find yourself supporting Christian (5% of? )Palestinians to make it a secular state where in the meantime be a Muslim Shari'a state and all of the Christians in Israel would find themselves dead.
Christians can't live with radical Islam, period.

"Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union."

The Palestinian Christian Betrayed Persecuted Sacrificed

 

[montelatici]

You, instead, support Israel at the expense of the United States. You are a traitor.

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

If you had a proper grasp of the history of the conflict, then your post would be viable. But coming from a liar who relies on propaganda to promote his agenda, your post means squat.

Again, repeating a lie does not make it true. Nothing I have stated is propaganda, it is fact, for example:

European Jews went to Palestine with the intent of expelling the local people and creating a Jewish state.

That is a fact.

 

[Phoenall]

I don't feel sympathetic to any spies. They profited off their greed by selling out their country. Why should he be released early?

How is 30 years considered 'early'?

And how come an "Israeli spy" is punished with 30 years, but Iranian spy gets out before you can blink?

Yeah, tell us more about how friendly is the American government.

Each case is different. Why SHOULD he be released? He didn't just spy for Israel. That's the strawman here. He shopped his services to other countries and information he sold ended up in other countries such as USSR, Pakistan.

If Pollard is being punished because he's Jewish, why was Ben-ami - another Israeli spy caught in the same time frame - released with a fine?

Maybe the Judge wasn't as anti-Semitic as the one who sentenced Pollard ?

 

[Phoenall]

Lets say these 2,000 are fighting British troops then they are traitors and should have their British citizenship revoked

I have no clue as to the numbers involved, I suspect very few really know, but I agree, their passports should be revoked if they fight for a foreign army.
The same goes for people going to fight for the IDF.
If they want to join an army, they should either join the one of their home country, or sod off to live in the country they chose to fight for.
Seem fair?

Very fair, but then muslims don't see this as fair at all and see it as racism against islam.

 

[Phoenall]

An assessment by the CIA, found that Pollard's handlers in Israel wanted insight on "nuclear, military and technical information on the Arab states, Pakistan, and the Soviet Union -- not on the United States."
Former U.S. deputy attorney-general Philip Heymann -- who is also director of Harvard Law School's International Center for Criminal Justice -- wrote President Obama in 2011 that he had reviewed Jonathan Pollard's complete record and found that "[t]here is no evidence that Pollard intended to harm the United States or help its enemies.
In 2011, Former U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz penned a letter to President Obama, asking him to pardon Pollard who had "paid a high price for his espionage ... and should be released from prison."
Just this past November, eight former U.S. officials, with extensive knowledge of the Jonathan Pollard case, sent a letter to President Obama protesting the "unjust denial of parole for Mr Pollard. They are:
1 - R. James Woolsey, former director of the CIA.
2 - Dennis DeConcini, former chair of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committe.
3 - David F. Durenburger, also a former chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
4 - Robert C. MacFarlane, former U.S. National Security Advisor.
5 - Lawrence J. Korb, former Assistant U.S. Secretary of Defense.
6 - Angelo Codevilla, a former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer. 7 - Lee Hamilton, former chair of the House Select Committee on Intelligence.
8 - Bernard W. Nussbaum, former White House counsel.

The time is now for Jonathan Pollard to be pardoned and released.

Would you say that the anti-Israel team on this forum would ever had said anything about these spies? I don't think they would have said a word since the spies weren't Jewish.

It works both ways . . . I don't think you would have said a word unless Pollard was Jewish. ~ Susan

Give it a rest. You are so obviously the same anti-Semite as you always have been. If Pollard had been a Hundu or any other religion and I read that others were released and he was still in prison, I would have thought the same. Now complain about Pollard at your next Bund meeting. That could be the main topic at the meeting.

No, you give it a rest . . . a BIG rest please. I've never been anti-Semitic; however on many occasions I have indeed been very anti-Israel. I firmly believe that Israel, primarily through AIPAC, holds far too much sway over Congress which makes for a very unhealthy America. ~ Susan

You do realise that you have just contradicted yourself don't you, and have proven you are anti-Semitic. Even after being shown many times that Islamic groups and the NRA have more power in Congress you still insist on repeating this ANTI SEMITIC LIE

 

[Phoenall]

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

The Hamas and Palestinians is by their vast majority Arab Muslim supporting a Muslim state where Christians condemned to die, while in Israel Christmas flourish (Israelis) which iswhy Christians support Israel(Israelis and Palestinians) so after you will done supporting the Palestinians over Israelis you will find yourself supporting Christian (5% of? )Palestinians to make it a secular state where in the meantime be a Muslim Shari'a state and all of the Christians in Israel would find themselves dead.
Christians can't live with radical Islam, period.

"Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union."

The Palestinian Christian Betrayed Persecuted Sacrificed

So how about corroborative evidence to back up these claims, without it this is no more valid than a blog

 

[Phoenall]

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

If you had a proper grasp of the history of the conflict, then your post would be viable. But coming from a liar who relies on propaganda to promote his agenda, your post means squat.

Again, repeating a lie does not make it true. Nothing I have stated is propaganda, it is fact, for example:

European Jews went to Palestine with the intent of expelling the local people and creating a Jewish state.

That is a fact.

The produce the evidence from an un biased non partisan source that says just this, without out this it is just another of your ISLAMINAZI LIES AND PROPAGANDA

 

[Daniyel]

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

The Hamas and Palestinians is by their vast majority Arab Muslim supporting a Muslim state where Christians condemned to die, while in Israel Christmas flourish (Israelis) which iswhy Christians support Israel(Israelis and Palestinians) so after you will done supporting the Palestinians over Israelis you will find yourself supporting Christian (5% of? )Palestinians to make it a secular state where in the meantime be a Muslim Shari'a state and all of the Christians in Israel would find themselves dead.
Christians can't live with radical Islam, period.

"Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union."

The Palestinian Christian Betrayed Persecuted Sacrificed

You support a genocide for the Christians as well, bringing up some loony link won't change that.

 

[toastman]

No it doesn't make him a traitor, but instead of talking about others lets begin with you filth - you support a designated terrorist organization recognized by the US - you are the traitor.
On the head of the thief burns the hat.

Who supports a terrorist organization? Repeat it and I will go to the Mods. I support the rights of the Palestinian people, I do not support either Hamas or the PLO.

Now that is hilarious!
I Can go on explaining the hypocritical position you suggest while first you say you don't support Hamas(Lie?) and precisely where you actually do post false propaganda/misleading content to claim its facts when its not, I can also post dozens of quotes you made to show how you defend them(Hamas/PLO/Random terrorists) at all cost, I can also explain why supporting the current Palestinian regime or either its violent actions is supporting Hamas/PLO/Violence..

I Will make it simple for you to be able to comprehend;

Red is just a bunch of nonsense.
Green is some rare honesty.

Who says I support Hamas? I don't. I support a democratic secular state for all Palestinians, including those of the Jewish faith. Hamas want an Islamic state. Both Islam and Judaism are crap, in my opinion.

If I were a Palestinian I would call for the annihilation of Israel too. Wouldn't you if your family had been evicted from their homes and land by the Zionists? Or would you be a coward and submit to Jewish rule over you and your people. Just wondering, punk.

You silly little twerp. I am a practicing Roman Catholic. Your worst nightmare.

Hamas are against Christians as much as all Islamic Militants - you support the Pals(Entirely?) - which are against Christians(Israelis and Palestinians) - while the majority of Christians involved directly in the conflict supports Israel.




Hamas Allah kill Christians and Jews to the last one - PMW Bulletins


You are a traito because the Palestinians you fiercely support - crowned the terrorism and pointed it against not only Israel, but Christians and I didn't mention you try to shake down a US ally but for a selfish emotional reason, traito.

Is that any different now?
traito?

As I said, I don't support Hamas. I support the rights of the Palestinians, who happen to be Christians too, to be free of the Jewish yoke. .
Terrorism was crowned in Palestine by the European Jews including Irgun and the Stern Gang.

And I repeat, if your family had been evicted from their homes and their land taken away, would you be enamored with the people who did it? That's the trouble with you Zionists, you just cannot admit to what actually happened.

If you had a proper grasp of the history of the conflict, then your post would be viable. But coming from a liar who relies on propaganda to promote his agenda, your post means squat.

Again, repeating a lie does not make it true. Nothing I have stated is propaganda, it is fact, for example:

European Jews went to Palestine with the intent of expelling the local people and creating a Jewish state.

That is a fact.

Then why do you keep repeating them?

 

[Coyote]

If Pollard truly did this out of a misguided sense of loyalty to Israel, I might feel more lenient but he didn't.

Perhaps. But the moment he asked Israel not to release him because of American pressure, because he doesn't want Israelis suffering because of him (the deal was his release in exchange of Palestinian prisoners' release from Israeli jails), he is automatically enters the Israeli lists as a righteous.

Righteous? Even though his actions cost his country a lot of damage?

No. I can't agree with that at all. It strikes me more as grandstanding.

 

[Coyote]

I don't feel sympathetic to any spies. They profited off their greed by selling out their country. Why should he be released early?

How is 30 years considered 'early'?

And how come an "Israeli spy" is punished with 30 years, but Iranian spy gets out before you can blink?

Yeah, tell us more about how friendly is the American government.

Each case is different. Why SHOULD he be released? He didn't just spy for Israel. That's the strawman here. He shopped his services to other countries and information he sold ended up in other countries such as USSR, Pakistan.

If Pollard is being punished because he's Jewish, why was Ben-ami - another Israeli spy caught in the same time frame - released with a fine?

Maybe the Judge wasn't as anti-Semitic as the one who sentenced Pollard ?

What does anti-semitism have to do with it? Look at what he did. You are a Brit - if he did that to your country would you feel sympathetic to early release? Counter to the recommendations of your security people? What if he were Saudi - they're an ally - would you clamor for his early release?

 

[Hossfly]

I don't feel sympathetic to any spies. They profited off their greed by selling out their country. Why should he be released early?

How is 30 years considered 'early'?

And how come an "Israeli spy" is punished with 30 years, but Iranian spy gets out before you can blink?

Yeah, tell us more about how friendly is the American government.

Each case is different. Why SHOULD he be released? He didn't just spy for Israel. That's the strawman here. He shopped his services to other countries and information he sold ended up in other countries such as USSR, Pakistan.

If Pollard is being punished because he's Jewish, why was Ben-ami - another Israeli spy caught in the same time frame - released with a fine?

Maybe the Judge wasn't as anti-Semitic as the one who sentenced Pollard ?

What does anti-semitism have to do with it? Look at what he did. You are a Brit - if he did that to your country would you feel sympathetic to early release? Counter to the recommendations of your security people? What if he were Saudi - they're an ally - would you clamor for his early release?

Let's be honest here. Do you think that many of the posters here would be interested in this man if he even gave away the whole barn and if he happened to not be Jewish? Pollard is a big issue with the anti-Semitics and other spies are just not important to them. Do you think that it would have bothered some of the posters that this Kim was only given 7 years, released after 6, and the South Koreans were angry that he was even given any sentence? Nobody likes to hear about anyone spying in this country and handing over documents to others. However, it has been obvious throughout the years that only Pollard has any importance to some of the posters.

Korean Spy Case Called More Serious Than Was Thought - New York Times

Bitter South Koreans Rally Behind Spy Convicted in U.S. - Los Angeles Times

Naval Analyst Charged With Spying For S. Korea - Chicago Tribune

 

[Lipush]

If Pollard truly did this out of a misguided sense of loyalty to Israel, I might feel more lenient but he didn't.

Perhaps. But the moment he asked Israel not to release him because of American pressure, because he doesn't want Israelis suffering because of him (the deal was his release in exchange of Palestinian prisoners' release from Israeli jails), he is automatically enters the Israeli lists as a righteous.

Righteous? Even though his actions cost his country a lot of damage?

No. I can't agree with that at all. It strikes me more as grandstanding.

Israelis view Pollard in an Israeli POV, and what we see from Israel is that he refused to be released in exchange of Palestinian killers being released. Most responses on MEDIA were extremely supportive of him, and crowned him a hero, no less, for that.

That's something that might piss you guys off, being Americans, and It's understandable, it is, but I guess we see it differently. You know how many people saw Va'anunu as a hero, after he betrayed us and released information? Many of us think of him as a creep, yet many Americans still idolize him. If that's fair then, fair is fair.

I'm just saying.