Israel: Serial Terror-Bomber

[Humanity]

Some things are not always black and white...

Basing your argument simply on the Hamas Charter does not give a clear and balanced view of why Hamas were elected in the first place!

Why Hamas Won CounterPunch Tells the Facts Names the Names

I didn't mean just the Hamas Charter if that doesn't ring a bell,http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...e-only-way-to-ensure-Israels-security-371321- but the militant aggression which is far from being a political behavior and we all know they lie so does anyone here believe Israel would remove the blockade by assaulting Israeli civilians? Neither the Gazans and as I've said before there are way more than just one Palestinian interest that Hamas surly couldn't manage such as economy, education, welfare, and foreign affairs - Hamas intentions were to use military force (to terrorize) it's needs on others trying to make anything by force, that's not even close to ensure the safety of the Gazans, don't you think?

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

You claim that Daniel is racist and then spout racist remarks yourself. What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so. Why should Israel allow hamas to flood gaza with weapons that will be used to target and murder Israeli children. Why cant hamas/fatahtalk peace terms and mutual borders for the occupation and blockade to be lifted as the Geneva conventions and UN resolutions say.

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

"The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power". UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law." The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation". According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law."

Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Humanity]

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

Let me try and spell this out to you AGAIN Phoney...

I am NOT anti Jew...

However, IF Israel did as I suggest then I would support Israel in carrying out an attack on Gaza with 'reasonable' force in an attempt to topple any terrorist government/organisation!

PROVIDED...

That every civilian in Gaza is protected during the "act of war" under the usual international treaties and conventions!

 

[Phoenall]

...and then spout racist remarks yourself

Show me where Phoney!

I did in my reply, I itemised them as you well know. But you are too much of a coward to put them in your demands because it will make you look like a complete moron.



What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so.

 

[Phoenall]

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

I see you are dragging back old habits, so let's keep it simple.
Yes or No question - Do you believe that the Palestinians would revolt against Hamas,PIJ, and Fatah to create a new Democratic government that would strive for peace and Palestinian interests with Israel when the world would stop all aid to Gaza demanding imprisonment of the terrorist regimes?

The Palestinians are part of the larger Arab people. As we just saw from the Arab Spring, those peoples are not capable of developing a true democracy. This is not racism, just observation. Look at what happened in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, etc.

Yes they are... And?

If I 'observe' that every Jew has a big nose and make that my 'point' then that does not make me 'anti-semetic'?

If I 'observe' that Netanyahu and his cronies have ZERO intention of EVER finding a peaceful solution does that make me 'anti zionist'?

No but it makes you a racist as you are racial characteristics to attack all Jews

Yes as you have no concrete evidence of that being the case

 

[Phoenall]

I didn't mean just the Hamas Charter if that doesn't ring a bell,http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...e-only-way-to-ensure-Israels-security-371321- but the militant aggression which is far from being a political behavior and we all know they lie so does anyone here believe Israel would remove the blockade by assaulting Israeli civilians? Neither the Gazans and as I've said before there are way more than just one Palestinian interest that Hamas surly couldn't manage such as economy, education, welfare, and foreign affairs - Hamas intentions were to use military force (to terrorize) it's needs on others trying to make anything by force, that's not even close to ensure the safety of the Gazans, don't you think?

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

You claim that Daniel is racist and then spout racist remarks yourself. What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so. Why should Israel allow hamas to flood gaza with weapons that will be used to target and murder Israeli children. Why cant hamas/fatahtalk peace terms and mutual borders for the occupation and blockade to be lifted as the Geneva conventions and UN resolutions say.

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

"The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power". UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law." The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation". According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law."

Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The word of a proven anti-Semitic Jew hater is more relevant than the truth now is it.


And we find that the author of thos Wiki entry has been banned for "abusively using multiple accounts" calling into dispute anything he has published on Wiki.

So just another strike and you will be looking at retracting your racist remarks

 

[Phoenall]

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

Let me try and spell this out to you AGAIN Phoney...

I am NOT anti Jew...

However, IF Israel did as I suggest then I would support Israel in carrying out an attack on Gaza with 'reasonable' force in an attempt to topple any terrorist government/organisation!

PROVIDED...

That every civilian in Gaza is protected during the "act of war" under the usual international treaties and conventions!

COWFLOP As Israel is working within international treaties and conventions . As for reasonable force in war their is no such thing and hamas have declared war on Israel and they don't use reasonable force do they

 

[Humanity]

...and then spout racist remarks yourself

Show me where Phoney!

I did in my reply, I itemised them as you well know. But you are too much of a coward to put them in your demands because it will make you look like a complete moron.



What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so.

Phoney, now, go look at your post #296 and would you kindly show me where you "itemised" anything in there you cock!

 

[Humanity]

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

Let me try and spell this out to you AGAIN Phoney...

I am NOT anti Jew...

However, IF Israel did as I suggest then I would support Israel in carrying out an attack on Gaza with 'reasonable' force in an attempt to topple any terrorist government/organisation!

PROVIDED...

That every civilian in Gaza is protected during the "act of war" under the usual international treaties and conventions!

COWFLOP As Israel is working within international treaties and conventions . As for reasonable force in war their is no such thing and hamas have declared war on Israel and they don't use reasonable force do they

Can you post a link to the declaration of war please Phoney!

 

[Humanity]

Yes as you have no concrete evidence of that being the case

Keep up Phoney!

No links required, just go read the new!!

 

[Humanity]

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

You claim that Daniel is racist and then spout racist remarks yourself. What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so. Why should Israel allow hamas to flood gaza with weapons that will be used to target and murder Israeli children. Why cant hamas/fatahtalk peace terms and mutual borders for the occupation and blockade to be lifted as the Geneva conventions and UN resolutions say.

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

"The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power". UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law." The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation". According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law."

Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The word of a proven anti-Semitic Jew hater is more relevant than the truth now is it.


And we find that the author of thos Wiki entry has been banned for "abusively using multiple accounts" calling into dispute anything he has published on Wiki.

So just another strike and you will be looking at retracting your racist remarks

Tell you what Phoney...

Post ONE link, any source will do, I really don't care, that refutes all of the wiki entry...

If you can't then you can **** right off you belligerent, racist cock!

 

[Daniyel]

I didn't mean just the Hamas Charter if that doesn't ring a bell,http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...e-only-way-to-ensure-Israels-security-371321- but the militant aggression which is far from being a political behavior and we all know they lie so does anyone here believe Israel would remove the blockade by assaulting Israeli civilians? Neither the Gazans and as I've said before there are way more than just one Palestinian interest that Hamas surly couldn't manage such as economy, education, welfare, and foreign affairs - Hamas intentions were to use military force (to terrorize) it's needs on others trying to make anything by force, that's not even close to ensure the safety of the Gazans, don't you think?

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

I see you are dragging back old habits, so let's keep it simple.
Yes or No question - Do you believe that the Palestinians would revolt against Hamas,PIJ, and Fatah to create a new Democratic government that would strive for peace and Palestinian interests with Israel when the world would stop all aid to Gaza demanding imprisonment of the terrorist regimes?

A very loaded yes or no question....

However, I will answer and tell you why I give the answer....

No, there will be no revolution against Hamas...

Why? Not because the 'average' Palestinian doesn't want change... It is because of the 'fear factor'...

Gaza Hamas killed and tortured says Amnesty - BBC News

Most revolutions require a military involvement... Hamas does not have a military... It has terrorists... Terrorists will not support the 'will' of the people... They will support the 'will' of their paymaster... Whoever that is!

The ONLY 'revolution' available to the Palestinians is through the ballot box... Through a true and fair election...

If, after a true and fair election, Hamas remains in power then, I am sorry to say, my support, my sympathy, for the Palestinian people would be far less than it is now.

For the rest of your question, well, I will choose to not answer at this point... Why? Because "I see you are dragging back old habits"...

When you imply the classic "no argument " answer that is a pure leftist tactic, when you avoid answering or relate to the part convenient to you that is pure leftist tactic, when you decide to portrait me as a racist/etc. instead of coherently reply to my position that is pure leftist tactic.
So just to get things clear - the 'Arab Spring ' is nothing but a bunch of conspiracy theories or something that would never could've happen in Gaza, despite Hamas is widely outnumbered if you consider the rest of armed groups, and that the outside world would go beyond all measures to support the Palestinians that would revolt against Hamas as probably the only possible option for peace or any sort of treaty with Israel?
So instead of that you are -yes- encouraging the and legitimizing the Palestinians to support (or is it maintain?) the armed struggle against Israeli civilians just because they probably would've fear to face the monster they've created - only because of that - to the day Hamas would get to a point beyond any control?
And of course it's Israel to be blamed foe the atrocities against Hamas and their supporters, Yeah now you got someone to blame so who cares about the Israelis anyway, I hope it does give you some sort of perspective for why Jews still living in shelters.

 

[Phoenall]

...and then spout racist remarks yourself

Show me where Phoney!

I did in my reply, I itemised them as you well know. But you are too much of a coward to put them in your demands because it will make you look like a complete moron.



What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so.

Phoney, now, go look at your post #296 and would you kindly show me where you "itemised" anything in there you cock!

You try looking again and then at my reply to you that both spell out your racist comments

 

[Phoenall]

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

Let me try and spell this out to you AGAIN Phoney...

I am NOT anti Jew...

However, IF Israel did as I suggest then I would support Israel in carrying out an attack on Gaza with 'reasonable' force in an attempt to topple any terrorist government/organisation!

PROVIDED...

That every civilian in Gaza is protected during the "act of war" under the usual international treaties and conventions!

COWFLOP As Israel is working within international treaties and conventions . As for reasonable force in war their is no such thing and hamas have declared war on Israel and they don't use reasonable force do they

Can you post a link to the declaration of war please Phoney!

Background Overview - Israel War of Independence Jewish Virtual Library

The chairman of the Arab Higher Committee said the Arabs would "fight for every inch of their country."3 Two days later, the holy men of Al-Azhar University in Cairo called on the Muslim world to proclaim a jihad (holy war) against the Jews.4

The first large-scale assaults began on January 9, 1948, when approximately 1,000 Arabs attacked Jewish communities in northern Palestine. By February, the British said so many Arabs had infiltrated they lacked the forces to run them back.5 In fact, the British turned over bases and arms to Arab irregulars and the Arab Legion.

 

[Phoenall]

Now how about you produce the evidence of my racism, as you post shows that you are clutching at straws to prove your point

 

[Phoenall]

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

You claim that Daniel is racist and then spout racist remarks yourself. What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so. Why should Israel allow hamas to flood gaza with weapons that will be used to target and murder Israeli children. Why cant hamas/fatahtalk peace terms and mutual borders for the occupation and blockade to be lifted as the Geneva conventions and UN resolutions say.

If Israel did as you want then you would not support them when they flattened gaza in response to the terrorist attacks and acts of war, you would be even more anti Israel/Jew than you are now

"The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power". UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law." The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation". According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law."

Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The word of a proven anti-Semitic Jew hater is more relevant than the truth now is it.


And we find that the author of thos Wiki entry has been banned for "abusively using multiple accounts" calling into dispute anything he has published on Wiki.

So just another strike and you will be looking at retracting your racist remarks

Tell you what Phoney...

Post ONE link, any source will do, I really don't care, that refutes all of the wiki entry...

If you can't then you can **** right off you belligerent, racist cock!

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah, the same way ISIS calls itself an Islamic state with a political force.

Your post proves that you're the violent one. You're the terrorist.

You're the problem.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah, the same way ISIS calls itself an Islamic state with a political force.

Your post proves that you're the violent one. You're the terrorist.

You're the problem.

Off your meds again?

 

[Billo_Really]

Off your meds again?

There are no meds in my system.

Just like there is no humanity in your posts.

 

[Humanity]

Rather than 'clever' words...

How about this...

Hamas are a terrorist organisation... They have no support from me whatsoever...

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas... That does NOT make every Palestinian a terrorist!

Don't you agree?

I do, but here is the problem, while the vast majority of Palestinians supports military actions against Israeli civilians you can't just separate the infected - they bare full responsibility for the consequences and to be considered as HOSTILE ENEMIES of the state of Israel.
When you back to legitimizing such people that supports violence against innocents you are not only preventing any progress but you also push things backward ('inciting' or encouraging for violence), so there are the innocent ("innocent " PIJ/Fatah fans) that did not took part in the raise of Hamas - yes we all heard that tune already - they bare full responsibility as they claim to be the same Palestinians that voted for Hamas and if Hamas was succeed they were also moving to Israel to reap the fruit.
The Crimes the Palestinians committed against them (the non voting population and youth) is the real crime against humanity and with all the pain I see no way out of this without them getting hurt - thanks to people like you that encourage Palestinians of all circles for violence, shame on you.

And there is the problem Daniyel...

You are a belligerent racist... As most Israeli zionists appear to be!

So, there is little to no possibility of sensible discussion with you or anyone who thinks like you...

I encourage no one for violence or terrorism... Quite the opposite... As you will know, I do not support Hamas in anyway and would be very happy for them to be removed from power... Yet you think that by my supporting people who are oppressed that I support violence! And yes, I believe that the Palestinians are oppressed not only by Israel but also by Hamas...

If Israel would stop it's illegal settlement policy, agree to the Palestinian people having their own Palestinian State, remove the blockade from Gaza... The I would support Israel 100% in defending itself from any attack from the Palestinian government...

Until that happens then I will support the Palestinian people, NOT Hamas...

I see you are dragging back old habits, so let's keep it simple.
Yes or No question - Do you believe that the Palestinians would revolt against Hamas,PIJ, and Fatah to create a new Democratic government that would strive for peace and Palestinian interests with Israel when the world would stop all aid to Gaza demanding imprisonment of the terrorist regimes?

A very loaded yes or no question....

However, I will answer and tell you why I give the answer....

No, there will be no revolution against Hamas...

Why? Not because the 'average' Palestinian doesn't want change... It is because of the 'fear factor'...

Gaza Hamas killed and tortured says Amnesty - BBC News

Most revolutions require a military involvement... Hamas does not have a military... It has terrorists... Terrorists will not support the 'will' of the people... They will support the 'will' of their paymaster... Whoever that is!

The ONLY 'revolution' available to the Palestinians is through the ballot box... Through a true and fair election...

If, after a true and fair election, Hamas remains in power then, I am sorry to say, my support, my sympathy, for the Palestinian people would be far less than it is now.

For the rest of your question, well, I will choose to not answer at this point... Why? Because "I see you are dragging back old habits"...

When you imply the classic "no argument " answer that is a pure leftist tactic, when you avoid answering or relate to the part convenient to you that is pure leftist tactic, when you decide to portrait me as a racist/etc. instead of coherently reply to my position that is pure leftist tactic.
So just to get things clear - the 'Arab Spring ' is nothing but a bunch of conspiracy theories or something that would never could've happen in Gaza, despite Hamas is widely outnumbered if you consider the rest of armed groups, and that the outside world would go beyond all measures to support the Palestinians that would revolt against Hamas as probably the only possible option for peace or any sort of treaty with Israel?
So instead of that you are -yes- encouraging the and legitimizing the Palestinians to support (or is it maintain?) the armed struggle against Israeli civilians just because they probably would've fear to face the monster they've created - only because of that - to the day Hamas would get to a point beyond any control?
And of course it's Israel to be blamed foe the atrocities against Hamas and their supporters, Yeah now you got someone to blame so who cares about the Israelis anyway, I hope it does give you some sort of perspective for why Jews still living in shelters.

When you fail to actually read what I posted that is a pure zionist trait!

You see, I answered the question asked...

Go check it out...

 

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...and then spout racist remarks yourself

Show me where Phoney!

I did in my reply, I itemised them as you well know. But you are too much of a coward to put them in your demands because it will make you look like a complete moron.



What illegal settlement policy does Israel have as the last time I looked it is not illegal to build on land you own under International Law. When did Israel ever stop the Palestinians from having their own state, and a link showing this to be so.

Phoney, now, go look at your post #296 and would you kindly show me where you "itemised" anything in there you cock!

You try looking again and then at my reply to you that both spell out your racist comments

I don't need to look again Phoney.... There is NOTHING "Itemised"...

You can hear voices again can't you Phoney!

Off to the doctor for more meds Phoney!