Israel police challenge US 'terror' findings

[Lipush]

Originally posted by RoccoR
Palestinians most often target purely civilian targets that are not engaged. Thus are terrorist actions.

For the umpteenth time:

All the jewish supremacist state has to do to end the palestinian armed struggle is stop murdering the palestinian people when they exercise their right to move about their homeland.

A state that routinely engages in this brutal supremacist practice immediately loses any moral authority to demand the end of a people's armed struggle.

This armed struggle started in the early 1900 and never stopped ever since.

The Jews are trying to protest the land grab of the Arab fanatics.

True story.

 

[Hossfly]

Originally posted by roudy
read all about it, this conflict is all about Muslim intolerance and inability to coexist. Period, end of story.

Your definition of coexistance is seriously fucked up, Roudy.

If you want to see real coexistence look no further than America herself.

Whites, blacks and hispanics are allowed to REALLY coexist in America because there are no walls, electric fences, minefields, machine gun nests preventing any of these three ethnic groups from moving freely in their american homeland, from let's say, Miami to NYC.

Palestinians are not allowed to "coexist" with the jewish people in what is now their shared homeland in any meaningful way.

How can you "coexist" with the citizens of a racial dictatorship that doesn't even allow you to get near the border of the racial enclaves assigned to you?

Originally posted by roudy
The difference is you support Islamic supremacism.

Tinmore is often called "Hamas' spokesman, Hamas' representative in the US but I seriously doubt he (or pbel, monte, billo) wants to see Palestine being ruled by a theocratic government after the peaceful dismanting of Israel.

What's the point in replacing a murderous jewish racial dictatorship that herds and kills the native arab people of the land with an equally abhorrent, totalitarian islamic dictatorship imposing religious laws on a multicultural society.

We all want to see the jewish racial dictatorship being replaced by a democratic, secular state not a religious dictatorship.

Now you are quite right that the PARTIAL islamization of the palestinian cause (the creation of Hamas, IJ, etc) in the 80's was indeed a catastrophic trend.

It represented a tremendous setback to the peaceful dismantlement of Israel... I'd go further and say that as long as Hamas or any other islamic movement reamains a force in Palestine, the dismantlement of Israel will have to be indefinitely postponed.

But after making a fantastic argument, roudy, you simply cannot resist the temptation of taking it too far and reduce it to a childish caricature in the process.

Palestinians (or arabs for that matter) cannot be reduced to theocrats, roudy. You have millions upon millions of secular arabs (and muslims) who want nothing to do with totalitarian ideologies like theocracies of any kind.

Answer me this simple question:

If palestinians and other arabs are all islamic theocrats, as you say, how do you explain Egypt's massive protests against Mursi?

Millions of Egypts went to the streets to say outloud they didn't want to be governed by Islam.

Stop blowing the REAL, SERIOUS PROBLEM of islamic fundamentalism in the Middle East totally out of proportion in order to "justify" a racist, murderous state that assassinate the very people it should be taking care of.

You remind me of Sally, roudy...

You take a perfectly good, legitimate argument (the big problem of the rise in popularity of islamic theocracies from the 70's on) but then you throw your argument out the window by making too much of it, by turning it into a grotesque caricature of reality.

Let's do our best to neutralize the influence of islamic fundamentalism in Palestine so that we can then proceed with the peaceful dismantlement of the equally nasty jewish racial dictatorship.

Briefly, Jose, the whites, blacks and Hispanics don't go into a berserker blood frenzy when dealing with one another. Unlike the Resistance warriors.

 

[Lipush]

That Jewish terrorists bombed the Star of David hotel and took innocent lives.

Star of David hotel?

Dafuq is dat?!

Right next to the Mezuzah Hotel. Great view.

 

[pbel]

Armed struggle?? Oh please.

You people just don't get it do you. Palestinian hostilities against Israel only make the hole that they are in deeper.
Palestinians need to Stop the attacks, renounce terrorism and good things will happen..

I agree! Israel should go back to the 67 Armistice Lines and have the UN finally create a Jewish and Arab States and the healing and good things will happen.

Yes the 67 armistice lines that they are at currently which include all of Jerusalem

You just love that natural DOUBLE-TALK.

 

[member]

"But what's the fundamental difference between José and you and Rocco, toastman?"

what ? ...is this a name mistake or are you really referring to yourself here ??

"I agree with you, toastman."


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. . .I HAVE THE MORAL AUTHORITY to give this friendly advice to the palestinian people while you and Rocco have absolutely no moral right to even open your mouths to verbalize the slightest criticism of their armed struggle."


"I have this moral authority to ask them to end their armed struggle because I do not dehumanize the palestinian people. I recognize and support their right to live in their homeland."


"You and Rocco are dehumanizers who support the "right" of the jewish racial dictatorship to keep the palestinian people corraled in Gaza and the West Bank in order to provide a safe haven for the jewish people murdering them when they try to leave."

you're sickening. 'armed struggle.' blech. go ahead. continue to stick up for "terrorists.'

 

[member]

"All historians are in perfect agreement that the "corraling" and murder of unarmed palestinians civilians clearly preceded the beginning of the palestinian armed struggle by at least 3 years."

if you're so sure, then I'm SURE -- all of them "historians" -- "AIN'T" in agreement with calling:

- blowing your eyebrows and eyeballs off your face and a little jewish kids face too... an "ARMED STRUGGLE"

yeah - an "armed struggle" - with a twist of evil !!!

 

[Billo_Really]

This armed struggle started in the early 1900...

...at the time Zionists were illegally migrating into the area.

 

[aris2chat]

Hotel serving as military HQ? Even after they were called in advance? Ha ha ha.

Sure.

Regardless, still has ZERO to do with the Munich Massacre, ignoramus.

There's a military HQ in Boston, Mass.

So according to your logic, the Boston Marathon bombing, was not an act of terrorism.

Not on the finish line of the marathon.

There is a military processing station on the 4th floor of a building on Summer, not on the marathon path. Nor is the air force base or army national guard on the marathon path.

So what kind of logic are you using that equates the boston marathon finish line with the king david hotel that was the British military HQ?

 

[Billo_Really]

Armed struggle?? Oh please.

You people just don't get it do you. Palestinian hostilities against Israel only make the hole that they are in deeper.
Palestinians need to Stop the attacks, renounce terrorism and good things will happen..

They did that in 2008 and Israel still would not reciprocate.

 

[Billo_Really]

Not on the finish line of the marathon.

There is a military processing station on the 4th floor of a building on Summer, not on the marathon path. Nor is the air force base or army national guard on the marathon path.

So what kind of logic are you using that equates the boston marathon finish line with the king david hotel that was the British military HQ?

It's called "Roudy Logic", where evil has to work overtime, in order to reach that level of hate.

 

[Billo_Really]

There is no one single Israeli soldier or one Israeli civilian inside the Gaza strip.

Case closed.

All the rest is mumbo-jumbo-nonsense

That's not addressing "effective control", that's avoiding it.

But what's really fucked, is you and I both know, you're doing that deliberately!

 

[Billo_Really]

The dehumanizer cannot demand humane behavior from the very same people he dehumanizes.

True story.

 

[Billo_Really]

And we are not in the middle of a civil war.

Started by Zionist insurgents.

 

[aris2chat]

I agree with you, toastman.

If you ask PF Tinmore, Billo, pbel, montelatici and I, I'm sure we will all unanimously agree that the best course of action for the palestinian people to follow is end their armed struggle UNILATERALLY without any recognition by Israel of their right to live in western palestine and start a civil right struggle for equal rights in their homeland taking the american civil rights movement as a guide.

But what's the fundamental difference between José and you and Rocco, toastman?

The difference is that I HAVE THE MORAL AUTHORITY to give this friendly advice to the palestinian people while you and Rocco have absolutely no moral right to even open your mouths to verbalise the slightest criticism of their armed struggle.

I have this moral authority to ask them to end their armed struggle because I do not dehumanize the palestinian people. I recognize and support their right to live in their homeland.

You and Rocco are dehumanizers who support the "right" of the jewish racial dictatorship to keep the palestinian people corraled in Gaza and the West Bank in order to provide a safe haven for the jewish people murdering them when they try to leave.

The moment you support this kind of moral depravation you immediately lose any right to criticise even the most horrendous suicide bombing, toastman.

Stop using the palestinian armed struggle as an excuse for jewish supremacism in Palestine and only then you'll have the right to join my advice to the palestinian people.

The dehumanizer cannot demand humane behavior from the very same people he dehumanizes.

The difference is you support Islamic supremacism. Palestinians are Arab offshoots of the Nazis, hence the term IslamoNazis...read all about it, this conflict is all about Muslim intolerance and inability to coexist. Period, end of story.

Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

And there was no talk of Palestine for the muslims before the muslim NAZI husseini stuck his stick in the hornets nest and twirled it around. The British should have taken him for a walk in the desert and then lost him to the snakes and scorpions. If they had we would not have had the problems we have today.

He would probably be toxic to the snakes and scorpions

 

[pbel]

Even the trees must be uprooted, they are reading their violent Torah as in the destruction of Jerico!

http://news.yahoo.com/jewish-extremists-uproot-west-bank-olive-trees-173456717.htmlJewish extremists uproot West Bank olive trees

Suspected Jewish extremists have uprooted dozens of olive trees in a Palestinian-owned field in the West Bank, Israeli police said Saturday. "Twenty-five olive trees were uprooted and sawn up in a field belonging to Palestinians near Bat Ayin" in the Gush Etzion settlement bloc south of Jerusalem,…

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[member]

"Suspected Jewish extremists have uprooted dozens of olive trees in a Palestinian-owned field in the West Bank, Israeli police said Saturday. "Twenty-five olive trees were uprooted and sawn up in a field belonging to Palestinians near Bat Ayin" in the Gush Etzion settlement bloc south of Jerusalem"

...what do you want to hear ? of course it's a terrible, MEAN, disgraceful thing to do. what else ? should they
be tossed in jail and fined, and prosecuted -- um, NO - they should let them go.

wouldn't you think the average [israeli] citizen hates to hear stuff like this ?

ripping up [someone else's] olive trees - pathetic & .....totally mean. keep that in mind, the people who actually uprooted the trees...
they got PROBLEMS !! (1) to hurt people that way (2) to hurt Trees that way (3) they're mental....

 

[toastman]

And we are not in the middle of a civil war.

Started by Zionist insurgents.

Bullshit. Arabs started the hostilities.

 

[Phoenall]

Origally posted by Phoenall
they have corralled themselves by their acts of violence, aggression and terrorism towards Israeli children.

From 48 to 51 there wasn't a single palestinian attack on israeli forces preventing their return to their homes in western palestine but the jewish racial dictatorship killed more than 1000 unarmed palestinian civilians entering western Palestine in the same period.

All historians are in perfect agreement that the "corraling" and murder of unarmed palestinians civilians clearly preceded the beginning of the palestinian armed struggle by at least 3 years.

WOW 2 years after the invasion by arab muslims that included Palestinians they licked their wounds before attacking Israel again. The first two years of your claim the Palestinians were attacking the Jews with the hopes of stealing the land of Israel and wiping out the Jews. But since that time the terrorist entity has made up for lost time and murdered many Jews, mainly children, in the years since.

You forget that it was the arab invaders that corralled the Palestinians from 1949 till they were released by Israel in 1967, as the many reports and pictures show

 

[Phoenall]

I agree! Israel should go back to the 67 Armistice Lines and have the UN finally create a Jewish and Arab States and the healing and good things will happen.

Yes the 67 armistice lines that they are at currently which include all of Jerusalem

You just love that natural DOUBLE-TALK.

Whats wrong cant get your head round the fact that there are two sets of armistice lines from 1967. The ones the terrorist entity want Israel to return to and the ones that Israel are currently at.

Even if the arabs get all they demand they will not rest until they have taken control of Israel and ethnically cleansed all the Jews from Palestine. That is why the fighting will never end until the UN step in and forcibly restrain the terrorist entity within iron walls.

 

[Phoenall]

This armed struggle started in the early 1900...

...at the time Zionists were illegally migrating into the area.

Not according to the Ottomans who had invited them to migrate there. You remember the Ottomans don't you the legal owners of the whole of greater Palestine until their defeat during WW1 by the allies. They invited the whole of the worlds Jews to migrate to Palestine because the arabs were too lazy to work the land.