Israel police challenge US 'terror' findings

[toastman]

Not everything.

If they bomb Israel proper and it is not a military target, then it is terrorism.

But the King David was a military target so that made it resistance. Thanks for clearing that up.[/QUOTE]

sometimes Hoss your lying is despicable.



King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Explosion and aftermath[edit]





British paratroopers enforce curfew in Tel Aviv after King David Hotel bombing, July 1946. Photographer: Haim Fine, Russian Emmanuel collection, from collections of the National Library of Israel.
The explosion occurred at 12:37. It caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel. Soon after the explosion, rescuers from the Royal Engineers arrived with heavy lifting equipment. Later that night, the sappers were formed into three groups, with each working an eight hour shift. The rescue operation lasted for the next three days and 2,000 lorry loads of rubble was removed. From the wreckage and rubble the rescuers managed to extract six survivors. The last to be found was D. C. Thompson, 24 hours after the building had collapsed. He appeared to be more or less unhurt, but later died due to shock.[25]

91 people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were members of the public. By nationality, there were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Palestinian Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian. 46 people were injured.[5][6] Some of the deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings. No identifiable traces were found of thirteen of those killed.[5] Among the dead were Yulius Jacobs, an Irgun sympathizer,[19] and Edward Sperling, a Zionist writer and government official.

What did Hoss lie about?

 

[pbel]

But the King David was a military target so that made it resistance. Thanks for clearing that up.[/QUOTE]

sometimes Hoss your lying is despicable.



King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Explosion and aftermath[edit]





British paratroopers enforce curfew in Tel Aviv after King David Hotel bombing, July 1946. Photographer: Haim Fine, Russian Emmanuel collection, from collections of the National Library of Israel.
The explosion occurred at 12:37. It caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel. Soon after the explosion, rescuers from the Royal Engineers arrived with heavy lifting equipment. Later that night, the sappers were formed into three groups, with each working an eight hour shift. The rescue operation lasted for the next three days and 2,000 lorry loads of rubble was removed. From the wreckage and rubble the rescuers managed to extract six survivors. The last to be found was D. C. Thompson, 24 hours after the building had collapsed. He appeared to be more or less unhurt, but later died due to shock.[25]

91 people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were members of the public. By nationality, there were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Palestinian Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian. 46 people were injured.[5][6] Some of the deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings. No identifiable traces were found of thirteen of those killed.[5] Among the dead were Yulius Jacobs, an Irgun sympathizer,[19] and Edward Sperling, a Zionist writer and government official.

What did Hoss lie about?

 

[Hossfly]

Not everything.

If they bomb Israel proper and it is not a military target, then it is terrorism.

But the King David was a military target so that made it resistance. Thanks for clearing that up.[/QUOTE]

sometimes Hoss your lying is despicable.



King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Explosion and aftermath[edit]





British paratroopers enforce curfew in Tel Aviv after King David Hotel bombing, July 1946. Photographer: Haim Fine, Russian Emmanuel collection, from collections of the National Library of Israel.
The explosion occurred at 12:37. It caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel. Soon after the explosion, rescuers from the Royal Engineers arrived with heavy lifting equipment. Later that night, the sappers were formed into three groups, with each working an eight hour shift. The rescue operation lasted for the next three days and 2,000 lorry loads of rubble was removed. From the wreckage and rubble the rescuers managed to extract six survivors. The last to be found was D. C. Thompson, 24 hours after the building had collapsed. He appeared to be more or less unhurt, but later died due to shock.[25]

91 people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were members of the public. By nationality, there were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Palestinian Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian. 46 people were injured.[5][6] Some of the deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings. No identifiable traces were found of thirteen of those killed.[5] Among the dead were Yulius Jacobs, an Irgun sympathizer,[19] and Edward Sperling, a Zionist writer and government official.

The hotel was British Command Headquarters and headquarters for the British Army Criminal Investigation Division and it was being used as an office building. That makes it military. As an example the Pentagon has about 28,000 military and civilian employees and 3000 non-defense civilian contractors. And the Pentagon is a military target. It's not a hotel but an office building.

 

[Billo_Really]

The kings just made history last week.

They became only the fourth team in NHL history to win a playoff series after being down 0-3. Ironically enough, they did it against another Cali team, the San Jose Sharks.

Now they're playing their neighbor.

I sure hope the Ducks don't think they can "occupy" the Staple Center?

 

[Billo_Really]

Can I borrow it? I want to find out who will win the Stanley Cup this season.

I'll let you know, it's happening just down the street.

 

[Lipush]

Israel is occupying Gaza? Hee hee hee.

Google "effective control" as it pertains to international occupational law.

Gaza satisfies that definition and therefore, is still under occupation.

Saying bullshit over and over doesn't make your bullshit be something other than bullshit

 

[Lipush]

So they reverted back to being their own usual terrorist bitches. Righto.

Resistance is not terrorism.

terrorizing million civilians is not resistance.

Unless those are Jews which probably makes it ok in your opinion

 

[Lipush]

Star of David hotel?

Dafuq is dat?!

See above.

I looked.

Still have no idea what you've been smoking, or what dafuq is dat.

 

[Roudy]

So they reverted back to being their own usual terrorist bitches. Righto.

Resistance is not terrorism.

Palestinian actions are terrorism as clearly labeled by US dept. of state and many Western govt's. Soweee.

 

[Roudy]

Oh, the nincompoop can google! It was the British military HQ which makes the "terrorism" debatable, they called and warned them several times, which makes it even more debatable. AND IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, ZERO TO DO WITH THE MUNICH MASSACRE.

Now get lost, mental midget.

Nah, I think I'll stay.

And there is no debating the fact that bombing a hotel, is an act of terrorism.

Hotel serving as military HQ? Even after they were called in advance? Ha ha ha.

Sure.

Regardless, still has ZERO to do with the Munich Massacre, ignoramus.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

This is confusing. The answer here is both yes and no.

So they reverted back to being their own usual terrorist bitches. Righto.

Resistance is not terrorism.

(COMMENT)

This has to do with both strategy and intent.

"Most" Resistance Movements have inherent within them the intent of "impressing" an element of fear. To that extent, the answer is yes - there is an element of terrorism.

The purpose of impressing an element of fear is to amplify the cost to counter the terror through IDAD (Internal Defense and Development) Programs. (Related to the Posting #35 Cutting US Aid). The difference between a full blown terrorist effort and a pure Resistance Movement is in the strategy and targeting. Terrorism targeting of purely civilian entities that are not engaged in direct participation to the conflict is distinctly different than targeting activities that are militarily engaged.

Palestinians most often target purely civilian targets that are not engaged. Thus are terrorist actions.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

This is confusing. The answer here is both yes and no.

I agree with that.

This has to do with both strategy and intent.

"Most" Resistance Movements have inherent within them the intent of "impressing" an element of fear. To that extent, the answer is yes - there is an element of terrorism.

I agree with that.

The purpose of impressing an element of fear is to amplify the cost to counter the terror through IDAD (Internal Defense and Development) Programs. (Related to the Posting #35 Cutting US Aid). The difference between a full blown terrorist effort and a pure Resistance Movement is in the strategy and targeting. Terrorism targeting of purely civilian entities that are not engaged in direct participation to the conflict is distinctly different than targeting activities that are militarily engaged.

I agree with that.

Palestinians most often target purely civilian targets that are not engaged. Thus are terrorist actions.

I agree only to the extent that purely civilian targets in Israel proper, are acts of terrorism, everything else, is resistance.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hotel serving as military HQ? Even after they were called in advance? Ha ha ha.

Sure.

Regardless, still has ZERO to do with the Munich Massacre, ignoramus.

There's a military HQ in Boston, Mass.

So according to your logic, the Boston Marathon bombing, was not an act of terrorism.

 

[Billo_Really]

Palestinian actions are terrorism as clearly labeled by US dept. of state and many Western govt's. Soweee.

What does street improvements have to do with terrorism?

When Hamas cleaned the streets, Israeli bulldozers and tanks destroyed them, and when Hamas erected streetlights, Israeli soldiers shot them out.

Those actions are as fucked as you are; which, BTW, can be seen in each (and every one) of your posts.

 

[Billo_Really]

terrorizing million civilians is not resistance.

Unless those are Jews which probably makes it ok in your opinion

You think it's okay to bulldoze down entire neighborhoods of Palestinian's, so what does that make you?

 

[Billo_Really]

Saying bullshit over and over doesn't make your bullshit be something other than bullshit

How would you know, since you've never addressed the issue of "effective control"?

 

[pbel]

But the King David was a military target so that made it resistance. Thanks for clearing that up.[/QUOTE]

sometimes Hoss your lying is despicable.



King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Explosion and aftermath[edit]





British paratroopers enforce curfew in Tel Aviv after King David Hotel bombing, July 1946. Photographer: Haim Fine, Russian Emmanuel collection, from collections of the National Library of Israel.
The explosion occurred at 12:37. It caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel. Soon after the explosion, rescuers from the Royal Engineers arrived with heavy lifting equipment. Later that night, the sappers were formed into three groups, with each working an eight hour shift. The rescue operation lasted for the next three days and 2,000 lorry loads of rubble was removed. From the wreckage and rubble the rescuers managed to extract six survivors. The last to be found was D. C. Thompson, 24 hours after the building had collapsed. He appeared to be more or less unhurt, but later died due to shock.[25]

91 people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 91 dead is just the opposite of your logicThe hotel was British Command Headquarters and headquarters for the British Army Criminal Investigation Division and it was being used as an office building. That makes it military. As an example the Pentagon has about 28,000 military and civilian employees and 3000 non-defense civilian contractors. And the Pentagon is a military target. It's not a hotel but an office building.

I know 'rithmatic was sorely taught in West Virgini but 28,000 to 3,000 military to civilian ratio is 10 to 1, whereas 13 British soldiers vs. 91 dead including Jews, is the opposite of your West Virgini logic that glorifies stupidity...

 

[José]

Originally posted by RoccoR
Palestinians most often target purely civilian targets that are not engaged. Thus are terrorist actions.

For the umpteenth time:

All the jewish supremacist state has to do to end the palestinian armed struggle is stop murdering the palestinian people when they exercise their right to move about their homeland.

A state that routinely engages in this brutal supremacist practice immediately loses any moral authority to demand the end of a people's armed struggle.

 

[toastman]

Hotel serving as military HQ? Even after they were called in advance? Ha ha ha.

Sure.

Regardless, still has ZERO to do with the Munich Massacre, ignoramus.

There's a military HQ in Boston, Mass.

So according to your logic, the Boston Marathon bombing, was not an act of terrorism.

Another ridiculous comparison .

The target of the attack on the King David hotel was the hotel itself.

The bombing at the marathon didn't have a specific target. It was meant to ki and harm as many civilians.

 

[toastman]

Originally posted by RoccoR
Palestinians most often target purely civilian targets that are not engaged. Thus are terrorist actions.

For the umpteenth time:

All the jewish supremacist state has to do to end the palestinian armed struggle is stop murdering the palestinian people when they exercise their right to move about their homeland.

A state that routinely engages in this brutal supremacist practice immediately loses any moral authority to demand the end of a people's armed struggle.

Armed struggle?? Oh please.

You people just don't get it do you. Palestinian hostilities against Israel only make the hole that they are in deeper.
Palestinians need to Stop the attacks, renounce terrorism and good things will happen..