ISRAEL is our ONLY ALLY in the Mid East.

[gautama]

...and with a stunning command of the English language...

IMO, I use the English language to convey my thoughts as clearly as it is possible to do.

Thank you for the compliment.

Bless his heart, guatama is doing the very best he can within his limited little abilities. Ya'll pat him on the head and encourage him all you can.

The pathetic and hopeless LIEberhoid stooge JWB is chagrined by the fact that some clear thinking liberals recognize the obvious TRUTH.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

Palestine's were nothing more then a stateless nomadic tribe which is one of the reasons none of the other nations want anything to do with them.

And what would you call the Jews who inhabit Israel? Indigenous native? Is there a more nomadic people in the world than the eternally wandering Jews?

In an earlier message I talked about a Palestinian I met who told me her family was dispossessed from the land they'd lived on for generations by an Ashkenazi Hasid who came to Israel from America just two years earlier. His only claim to their land was it was a gift to him from god.

How would you like that?


Excerpted from PBS Frontline (John Miller) 1998 interview with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
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[. . .]We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ...
Who Is Bin Laden? - Interview With Osama Bin Laden (in May 1998) | Hunting Bin Laden | FRONTLINE | PBS

If you read the whole interview you'll find it very enlightening.

 

[Toro]

ohshitetc,

You are a naive fool.

Read my OP-ED.

The CENTRAL problem between America and the MuslimArsed Countries is NOT Israel.

It is the fact that America is an irrevocable and avowed SUCCESSFUL SECULAR COUNTRY which IRREFUTABLY, by its very being, to the fanatical Imams of Islam NEGATES the raison d'etre of Islam, a THEOLOGICALLY based foundation for a DISASTER......in addition to being a WHACKJOB POLITICAL FORCE intent on conquering the world to satisfy the FIRST DICTUM of Islam as clearly underlined by its author, the HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED MASS MURDERER, THIEF, RAPIST & PEDOPHILIC RAPIST, THE ULTIMATE WHACKJOB MOHAMMED: "Make the World the Caliphate of Islam, preferably by word, by SWORD (caps mine) if necessary."

you seem very rational and not at all like a radical.

I am happy to see that you recognize REALITY.

Reality looks a little different from your padded cell, eh gaytardma?

 

[Brutus]

What LIEberrhoid Anti-American arseholes don't and can't understand is that Israel is our ONLY ally in the Mid East.

And it is IMPOSSIBLE to beg, or pay oneself, into the ******* MuslimArsed countries acceptance EVEN IF WE BETRAY AND TOTALLY ABANDON ISRAEL because the MuslimArsed countries are governed by RELIGIOUS MUSLIM FANATICS who consider America the GREAT SATAN because of our avowed and irrevocable position as a sponsor of a SECULAR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.........i.e., an IPSO FACTO REJECTION of the FOUNDATION of ISLAM !!!!

No matter what we say or do.......ISLAM and the followers of ISLAM are our foes unto death !!!

lets face it, if we were not over there they would not be over here. They don't have a beef with China or India or Brazil, just us because we have supported Israeli aggression .

 

[MikeK]

I think you'll find the total Death's In Iraq are nearer 73,846 as they changed the way of reporting deaths, don't count if died of injuries later on, as they were no longer "in" Iraq
Surprise! Iraq War Deaths Exceed Vietnam War

I've always thought the death statistics were higher than we've been told but I had no idea they were this high.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Sallow]

As long as the Arsehole Obambi and his Obamarrhoids prevent America from drilling onshore, offshore, and a judicious building of nuclear plants we will depend on the enemies of America for our oil.

That is an obvious fact that libtards like you choose to ignore.

I see, Obama was the reason we were forced to go to war with Iraq, good point.

I've never voted for a single democrat in my life, so the partisan talking points (aka the only thing you have) you should keep in the holster for another poster to rant at.

Iraq war was instigated by the Clinton Adm and the leaders of the Dem Congress. Bush, considered the incessant yowling of these hypocrites and acquiesced used the identical verbiage of the Dems....including the WMD verbiage. And, twas a correct decision since it prevented TWO PSYCHOS (the Iraqi & Iranian) to eventually have nukes. And, the prevention of ADDITIONAL millions of people slaughtered by the Baghdad Psycho and his Murderous progeny.

Obambo's continuation of Iraqi involvement merely underlines the importance Iraq poses in the protection of our Strategic Oil Interests in the Mid East.

You LIEberrhoid arseholes probably know this if you are not a gaggle of complete idiots.

What nonsense.

The war was part of a greater strategy of the PNAC. Which urged Clinton to attack Iraq..but he balked. They found a friend in GW.

 

[MikeK]

Israel can't put boots on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan because of the way it would look, Muslims are pissed that Israel even exists, if it looks like the Israelis are invading other Muslim countries the situation would be 100 times worse.

Which is to say our "ally," Israel, can't function as an ally because it would piss off too many Moslems. How about Vietnam? No Moslems. What was the problem there?

Israel doesn't have to put Military on the ground to help the US.

Are you going to tell us what it is they do or is it classified?

 

[jillian]

Which is to say our "ally," Israel, can't function as an ally because it would piss off too many Moslems. How about Vietnam? No Moslems. What was the problem there?

you know, mike. i know there are a lot of terrorist apologists out there, but israel is pretty busy defending itself from missile strikes from terrorists who use civilians as shields and then cry when they get hit back. but israel has been specifically asked, at least three times not to retaliate for strikes against THEM at OUR behest.

Perhaps Israel should just defend itself like we would, despite our wishes.

nothing is as black and white as the terrorist supporters, who confuse terrorists with freedom fighters, like to pretend.

and before you answer, let me know what other country we've asked not to defend itself so we wouldn't be inconvenienced.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Without Isreal in that region where would 100,000 of the Palestinians work?

They would work their land like they did before Israel stole it.

Palestine was a peaceful and prosperous country before Israel.

I don't remember that. Who was the President, Premier, or King of the great state of Palestine prior to 1948?

Is there a law saying you have yo have one?

Please provide link.

 

[jillian]

They would work their land like they did before Israel stole it.

Palestine was a peaceful and prosperous country before Israel.

I don't remember that. Who was the President, Premier, or King of the great state of Palestine prior to 1948?

Is there a law saying you have yo have one?

Please provide link.

well, pf ucktard, generally when a country actually exists, they have leaders... elected, appointed or born.

there isn't any such thing as a palestinian. there are transjordanians, but jordan doesn't want them either.

 

[Samson]

If Israel is our ally, why are there no Israeli boots on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? So this notion that Israel is our "ally" is utter nonsense and anyone who believes it is simply ignorant, or harbors a religious or cultural bias, or has been brainwashed by generations of repetitious deception by Israel supporters and American politicians corrupted by AIPAC money and fear of being accused of anti-Semitism.

Israel is a protectorate. And according to Osama bin Laden's own admonition to us in 1998, our support of that aggressive, troublesome little nation is the main reason we were attacked on 9/11.

I think 9/11 was a result of American Troops being stationed in Saudi Arabia prior to the First Gulf War, a result of Saddam Husein's invasion of Kuwait.

Had nothing to do with Israel.

However US support (Billion$ given to Israel) to build their defense forces, has made the US the enemy of many Arabs in the middle east who were allied with the Soviets. Now that there is no USSR, and hasn't been for 20 years, the need to aid Israel is certainly questionable.

 

[jillian]

If Israel is our ally, why are there no Israeli boots on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? So this notion that Israel is our "ally" is utter nonsense and anyone who believes it is simply ignorant, or harbors a religious or cultural bias, or has been brainwashed by generations of repetitious deception by Israel supporters and American politicians corrupted by AIPAC money and fear of being accused of anti-Semitism.

Israel is a protectorate. And according to Osama bin Laden's own admonition to us in 1998, our support of that aggressive, troublesome little nation is the main reason we were attacked on 9/11.

troublesome? yah...how problematic that terrorists keep attacking the only jewish country in the world and people like you keep defending those attacks while thinking the dozen muslim countries are a-ok.

how silly is that?

answer: very.

the attack on us had NOTHING to do with Israel. 9/11 happened because bin laden wanted us out of bin sultan AFB. (which we got out of after 9/11); he wanted a training ground for his jihadis (which he got) and he wanted the US to do something stupid and overreact so he could use us as his poster children.

are you naive enough to think under any set of circumstances they'd not attack us. if your comments were in the least bit true, they wouldn't target spain (clearly no buddy to israel) or england.

history is really important.

 

[William Joyce]

Osama bin Laden was crystal clear:

The U.S. was attacked on 9/11 because of its support for Israel. Specifically, the stationing of troops in lands holy to Islam (which was done for Israel's sake).

Israel is not our friend.

Already cited in this thread, but... in 1967, Israel attacked the United States in the Mediterranean. Killed our sailors. I met and spoke with one of the survivors. Amazing story, totally censored by the Jewish U.S. press, but it's out there.

Israel is not our friend.

Read The Israel Lobby by Walt and Mearsheimer. The tightest indictment of the Jewish lobby ever put together. Strategically, Israel is worth zero -- actually, less than zero. They are a pure liability for the United States. We fork over BILLIONS and all we get in return is ATTACKED by Muslims. This is a terrible deal for the American people.

Israel is not our friend.

Israel our only ally in the mideast... yes, and before that, we had no enemies there.

Israel is not our friend.

We support Israel for two basic reasons: one, the Jews in America have a lot of power and influence, both in media and government. They seek the support for their own ethnocentric reasons. See jillian above. Two, some misguided fundies think Jesus will return there and we have to support it for that reason (even though upon this return, the Jews all go to hell... whatev.)

Israel is not our friend.

Arabs/Muslims are no great shakes, and I wouldn't import them here. Also, I don't begrudge Israel the desire to be a Jewish nation. I get that. I am just sick of the LIES told about that situation, and the fact that I as a white gentile am forced to support them, when GOD KNOWS the ******* Jews won't only NOT SUPPORT a white nation, but actively campaign against it all the while! ******* outrageous. That's Jews for you: demand that I support THEIR country, and simultaneously try to destroy mine. **** YOU, Jews. **** YOU. Did that big bad Hitler want to take you out? Heh, mebbe... but the more you deal with Jews, the more you see why someone would want to just stuff the lot of them in an oven, light the match and walk away.

 

[gautama]

you seem very rational and not at all like a radical.

I am happy to see that you recognize REALITY.

Reality looks a little different from your padded cell, eh gaytardma?

Toroshit,

It is not necessary to prove that you are an insignificant fart without anything useful to contribute.

You have already accomplished that on numerous occasions.

 

[Toro]

If Israel is our ally, why are there no Israeli boots on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? So this notion that Israel is our "ally" is utter nonsense and anyone who believes it is simply ignorant, or harbors a religious or cultural bias, or has been brainwashed by generations of repetitious deception by Israel supporters and American politicians corrupted by AIPAC money and fear of being accused of anti-Semitism.

Israel is a protectorate. And according to Osama bin Laden's own admonition to us in 1998, our support of that aggressive, troublesome little nation is the main reason we were attacked on 9/11.

troublesome? yah...how problematic that terrorists keep attacking the only jewish country in the world and people like you keep defending those attacks while thinking the dozen muslim countries are a-ok.

how silly is that?

answer: very.

the attack on us had NOTHING to do with Israel. 9/11 happened because bin laden wanted us out of bin sultan AFB. (which we got out of after 9/11); he wanted a training ground for his jihadis (which he got) and he wanted the US to do something stupid and overreact so he could use us as his poster children.

are you naive enough to think under any set of circumstances they'd not attack us. if your comments were in the least bit true, they wouldn't target spain (clearly no buddy to israel) or england.

history is really important.

Israel isn't our ally?

lol

 

[Rodack]

Democrats despise Jews

 

[gautama]

Osama bin Laden was crystal clear:

The U.S. was attacked on 9/11 because of its support for Israel. Specifically, the stationing of troops in lands holy to Islam (which was done for Israel's sake).

Israel is not our friend.

Already cited in this thread, but... in 1967, Israel attacked the United States in the Mediterranean. Killed our sailors. I met and spoke with one of the survivors. Amazing story, totally censored by the Jewish U.S. press, but it's out there.

Israel is not our friend.

Read The Israel Lobby by Walt and Mearsheimer. The tightest indictment of the Jewish lobby ever put together. Strategically, Israel is worth zero -- actually, less than zero. They are a pure liability for the United States. We fork over BILLIONS and all we get in return is ATTACKED by Muslims. This is a terrible deal for the American people.

Israel is not our friend.

Israel our only ally in the mideast... yes, and before that, we had no enemies there.

Israel is not our friend.

We support Israel for two basic reasons: one, the Jews in America have a lot of power and influence, both in media and government. They seek the support for their own ethnocentric reasons. See jillian above. Two, some misguided fundies think Jesus will return there and we have to support it for that reason (even though upon this return, the Jews all go to hell... whatev.)

Israel is not our friend.

Arabs/Muslims are no great shakes, and I wouldn't import them here. Also, I don't begrudge Israel the desire to be a Jewish nation. I get that. I am just sick of the LIES told about that situation, and the fact that I as a white gentile am forced to support them, when GOD KNOWS the ******* Jews won't only NOT SUPPORT a white nation, but actively campaign against it all the while! ******* outrageous. That's Jews for you: demand that I support THEIR country, and simultaneously try to destroy mine. **** YOU, Jews. **** YOU. Did that big bad Hitler want to take you out? Heh, mebbe... but the more you deal with Jews, the more you see why someone would want to just stuff the lot of them in an oven, light the match and walk away.

William Joyce the ******* ignorant idiot:

Israel, OUR ONLY TRUE ALLY IN THE MID EAST, is a tiny country with the population of a single American city. And, proportionally, occupying an area of a postage stamp compared to a football field of MuslimArsed countries....NOW, more so than ever before, because of the bought technological advancement of the Whackjob islamofascists, and Arabian Turmoil (which, partially, will be blamed on Israel as a scapegoat)......is most vulnerable to be overrun and annihilated by the avowed enemies of America, the Muslim Arseholes, who call us the GREAT SATAN, reserving the title LITTLE SATAN for Israel, our only ally in the area.

If you can't comprehend that, then there isn't anything of importance that can be explained to an idiot like you.

 

[Rodack]

Do Radical Islamics hate Israel more than US Democrats?


It really is hard to tell.

 

[Sallow]

Democrats despise Jews

Well a good many democrats are jewish...but heck..why even consider that..

 

[Sallow]

If Israel is our ally, why are there no Israeli boots on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? So this notion that Israel is our "ally" is utter nonsense and anyone who believes it is simply ignorant, or harbors a religious or cultural bias, or has been brainwashed by generations of repetitious deception by Israel supporters and American politicians corrupted by AIPAC money and fear of being accused of anti-Semitism.

Israel is a protectorate. And according to Osama bin Laden's own admonition to us in 1998, our support of that aggressive, troublesome little nation is the main reason we were attacked on 9/11.

troublesome? yah...how problematic that terrorists keep attacking the only jewish country in the world and people like you keep defending those attacks while thinking the dozen muslim countries are a-ok.

how silly is that?

answer: very.

the attack on us had NOTHING to do with Israel. 9/11 happened because bin laden wanted us out of bin sultan AFB. (which we got out of after 9/11); he wanted a training ground for his jihadis (which he got) and he wanted the US to do something stupid and overreact so he could use us as his poster children.

are you naive enough to think under any set of circumstances they'd not attack us. if your comments were in the least bit true, they wouldn't target spain (clearly no buddy to israel) or england.

history is really important.

That's not exactly true. Osama bin Laden had made reference to the US support for Israel on many occasions.