Israel does not target civilians?

[Billo_Really]

I think you had better climb down off your high horse.

I don't have a horse, Mr. Ed.

Until I see a professional War Crimes Team

So what if you do, Israel won't let any independent organization into the area to investigate the facts. And why won't Israel let anyone into the area, because they're as guilty as sin and they don't want people to see just how barbaric the IDF really is.

or finding from the ICC Prosecutors Office, your ravings are of very little value.

And yours are even less.

And if it was quite as simple, cut'n'dry, as you make it out to be, THEN the ICC Team, which has been in play for 11 months (Prosecutor's Preliminary Examination opened 16 Jan 15), would have made your point already. So, I suspect they think it is much more complicated then you make it out to be.

I didn't say it was simple, but it is obvious, when you destroy over 18,000 homes, it's not by accident. When you target first responders, you intended to bomb civilian infrastructure. And when only 15% of the casualties had weapons on them, it's more than obvious you're full of shit!

Actually, these are unsubstantiated allegations. There is actually no physical evidence associated with a vast majority of the allegations. These are just apparent victims of making statements.

These are the findings by Physician's for Human Rights. I think they are a little more credible than your partisan blather.

And even if the statements were true, the report does not show in any way that there is a deliberate and established policy of abusing enemy civilians.

Oh **** you! Israel has priors. When you add up this PHR report, testimonials from IDF soldiers who were there, Israel's refusal to cooperate with any investigation and all the inhuman posts from Israeli kiss-asses showing zero empathy for anything Palestinian, yeah, the policy of abusing civilians is established and deliberate. You are sick! You are sick in the head!

Many of these statement are a case of Gaza Civilians that where not removed from the battle space by HAMAS, as require in Customary IHL. Or, it describes a cases in which HAMAS was deliberately conducting hostile operations from densely populated area; in violation of Customary IHL.

Don't change the subject. We're not talking about Hamas, we're talking about Israel and the atrocities it committed.

As to your comments in Posting #166, I draw your attention to these Job Announcement Minimum Criteria:

QUALIFICATIONS
Education
University Degree in Criminology and Criminal Justice or relevant academic qualifications or equivalent training and a diploma in criminal investigations from a recognized public police academy with work experience in criminal investigations. (Note: This was before the IICI was set up)

••• MY ANSWER: The IICI is not a recognized Police or Law Enforcement Academy. It is a college as I explained before.

Work Experience
A minimum of 7 years of progressively responsible experience in criminal investigations at the national or international level. Demonstrated experience of working at a supervisory level and/or substantial participation in complex, long-term criminal investigations, especially of violent crimes is a requirement. Experience in preparing witnesses and evidence for judicial proceedings as well as experience in recruitment, management of sources and in tracking of wanted fugitives is also a requirement.

••• MY ANWSER: 7 Years as a NATION or INTERNATIONAL criminal investigator.

And Your comment that: "So what? the GWCU is a government organ. "That's how the U.S.A. choses to approach investigating war crimes, other countries and the UN have different ideas, like the IICI, for example. Interesting that the GWCU doesn't exist on the FBI current website, wonder what happened to it?"

First please go to the FBI.gov Web Page for:
Genocide War Crimes Unit

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OR

Go to the independent resource, FBIAgentEDU.org serves as an objective source of information for those interested in learning about everything from education and experience requirements, to job duties and salary expectations specific to careers with the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
Careers with the FBI’s Genocide and War Crimes Unit

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Of course the ICC, INTERPOL, IAEA, etc, are different from the US. But the professionalism and career development and entry level criteria are about the same.

The IICI is a private school, just like and of the Colleges and Universities around the world, that offer criminal justice, law enforcement, and law degrees. But graduating from such course does not mean you have been vetted, and meet the agency specific criteria. Even with such a degree, you have to go through the Academy before you enter your probationary period.

I was a Senior Counterintelligence Special Agent and a Team Chief for a Technical Surveillance Countermeasures Team. Even though I have both a technical degree law enforcement (from CTI) and science degree (from OSU), I still have to go to the Federal Interagency Training Center (ITC) to become a TSCM Special Agent.

Places like IICI are great for meeting the continuing education requirements annually, but they are not a qualification course.

Most Respectfully,
R

Spare me your incessant data dumps.

 

[Humanity]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

Yeah, because a 2000lb bomb is so targeted isn't it!

Doesn't cause ANY 'collateral damage' does it....

Israel NEVER uses "human shields" does it!

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt... But they are not ISIS!

You need to move away from comparing apples and oranges... When you can then you will start to see some reality in the situation rather than believing and spreading your zionut propaganda!!

Yeah because shooting a rocket from behind a school or hospital is showing concern for innocent civilian life, isn't it? Bottom line, the Palestinians themselves are responsible for the loss of civilian life, since they engage in war crimes against their own people.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that isn't ISIS but with the same exact goals that ISIS, which is, establishing an Islamic Caliphate. You've seen one Islamic terrorist organization you've seen them all.

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

The fact that Hamas doesn't have the "firepower" that Israel has, doesn't absolve it from using locations such as school, hospitals, apartment buildings and mosques. And, since Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza-hole, and that this ruling authority chooses to shoot rockets at Israeli civilians from such locations, absolves Israel of the consequences of taking out those rocket launching sites. Therefore the blame rests only and only on the shoulders of Hamas for using it's own population as human shields.

You don't seem to be as concerned for the civilians that the Hamas animals target with their rockets and other terror activities, and only concerned that Hamas continue to be able to commit war crimes and violations without any reciprocity or proper response from the Israelis. That, will never happen with the Israelis. Rest assured, Israel understands the language that these animals speak.

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

 

[Billo_Really]

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

Hamas was a terrorist organization, not so much anymore. They're still on the terrorist list, but that's more political than factual at this point.

 

[Indeependent]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

Yeah, because a 2000lb bomb is so targeted isn't it!

Doesn't cause ANY 'collateral damage' does it....

Israel NEVER uses "human shields" does it!

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt... But they are not ISIS!

You need to move away from comparing apples and oranges... When you can then you will start to see some reality in the situation rather than believing and spreading your zionut propaganda!!

Yeah because shooting a rocket from behind a school or hospital is showing concern for innocent civilian life, isn't it? Bottom line, the Palestinians themselves are responsible for the loss of civilian life, since they engage in war crimes against their own people.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that isn't ISIS but with the same exact goals that ISIS, which is, establishing an Islamic Caliphate. You've seen one Islamic terrorist organization you've seen them all.

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

The fact that Hamas doesn't have the "firepower" that Israel has, doesn't absolve it from using locations such as school, hospitals, apartment buildings and mosques. And, since Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza-hole, and that this ruling authority chooses to shoot rockets at Israeli civilians from such locations, absolves Israel of the consequences of taking out those rocket launching sites. Therefore the blame rests only and only on the shoulders of Hamas for using it's own population as human shields.

You don't seem to be as concerned for the civilians that the Hamas animals target with their rockets and other terror activities, and only concerned that Hamas continue to be able to commit war crimes and violations without any reciprocity or proper response from the Israelis. That, will never happen with the Israelis. Rest assured, Israel understands the language that these animals speak.

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
Early 20s? Late 20s?
It's just that you occasionally post stuff that makes me realize you probably weren't paying attention to what was going on in Israel circa 1998-2000.

 

[Humanity]

Humanity, et al,

Yes, but the time is rapidly approaching when technology gaps will begin to close. A Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) with rockets and missiles

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

(COMMENT)

I'm not quite sure were they acquired the technology [(I'm betting Iran (Quds Force)], but, there will be a time when the Israeli will have to place low level sensors to detect and neutralize this threat.

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Most Respectfully,
R

So Hamas have acquired a drone?

I bet those Israeli pilots in their F-15's and F-16's are really scared now!

 

[Billo_Really]

Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
Early 20s? Late 20s?
It's just that you occasionally post stuff that makes me realize you probably weren't paying attention to what was going on in Israel circa 1998-2000.

Yeah, no rockets were fired until a year later.

 

[Indeependent]

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

Hamas was a terrorist organization, not so much anymore. They're still on the terrorist list, but that's more political than factual at this point.

You know, I really want to make you happy.
After all, it's Chanukah.
Israel targets civilians...all the time.
That's why everybody in Israel is dead...everybody...really.
There's NO ONE left.
So the IDF got bored and renamed themselves ISIS and are STILL targeting civilians.

 

[Indeependent]

Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
Early 20s? Late 20s?
It's just that you occasionally post stuff that makes me realize you probably weren't paying attention to what was going on in Israel circa 1998-2000.

Yeah, no rockets were fired until a year later.

Just 360 Jews murdered on buses by Suicide/Homicide bombers.
What the heck...just Jews.

 

[Billo_Really]

So Hamas have acquired a drone?

I bet those Israeli pilots in their F-15's and F-16's are really scared now!

You see all the whining they do over Qassam rockets, imagine if we sold them Tomahawks?

 

[Billo_Really]

You know, I really want to make you happy.
After all, it's Chanukah.
Israel targets civilians...all the time.
That's why everybody in Israel is dead...everybody...really.
There's NO ONE left.
So the IDF got bored and renamed themselves ISIS and are STILL targeting civilians.

Civilians are the only ones they can target. Due to the mandatory military service in Israel, they don't have any civilians. They just have assholes on the right and cool Jews on the left.

 

[Billo_Really]

Just 360 Jews murdered on buses by Suicide/Homicide bombers.
What the heck...just Jews.

Got anything more recent?

 

[Indeependent]

You know, I really want to make you happy.
After all, it's Chanukah.
Israel targets civilians...all the time.
That's why everybody in Israel is dead...everybody...really.
There's NO ONE left.
So the IDF got bored and renamed themselves ISIS and are STILL targeting civilians.

Civilians are the only ones they can target. Due to the mandatory military service in Israel, they don't have any civilians. They just have assholes on the right and cool Jews on the left.

You know who turned the cool Jews on the Left into assholes?
Hamas.
Who do you think told Netanyahu to bombard Gaza after Tel Aviv was threatened.
Netanyahu sure didn't give a shit about the Jews in S'Derot.

 

[Indeependent]

Just 360 Jews murdered on buses by Suicide/Homicide bombers.
What the heck...just Jews.

Got anything more recent?

I don't need to provide a detailed list of the current stabbings.

 

[Roudy]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

First off, why would they lie? And second, do you have any proof that they did?

I've posted proof of it a thousand times, there UN reports condemning the usage of UN schools for shooting and storing rockets, there's the Indian and Danish TV reporters that filmed Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and a hospital. Nothing new with these savages.

 

[montelatici]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

First off, why would they lie? And second, do you have any proof that they did?

I've posted proof of it a thousand times, there UN reports condemning the usage of UN schools for shooting and storing rockets, there's the Indian and Danish TV reporters that filmed Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and a hospital. Nothing new with these savages.

Closed, empty schools were for the storage of ordnance.

Women and children were not used as human shields, by the resistance.

"Jeremy Bowen, BBC Middle East editor: "I saw no evidence during my week in Gaza of Israel's accusation that Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields." The Guardian: "In the past week, the Guardian has seen large numbers of people fleeing different neighbourhoods.. and no evidence that Hamas had compelled them to stay." The Independent: "Some Gazans have admitted that they were afraid of criticizing Hamas, but none have said they had been forced by the organisation to stay in places of danger and become unwilling human-shields." Reuters, 2013: "A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields."


Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes

 

[Roudy]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

Yeah, because a 2000lb bomb is so targeted isn't it!

Doesn't cause ANY 'collateral damage' does it....

Israel NEVER uses "human shields" does it!

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt... But they are not ISIS!

You need to move away from comparing apples and oranges... When you can then you will start to see some reality in the situation rather than believing and spreading your zionut propaganda!!

Yeah because shooting a rocket from behind a school or hospital is showing concern for innocent civilian life, isn't it? Bottom line, the Palestinians themselves are responsible for the loss of civilian life, since they engage in war crimes against their own people.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that isn't ISIS but with the same exact goals that ISIS, which is, establishing an Islamic Caliphate. You've seen one Islamic terrorist organization you've seen them all.

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

The fact that Hamas doesn't have the "firepower" that Israel has, doesn't absolve it from using locations such as school, hospitals, apartment buildings and mosques. And, since Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza-hole, and that this ruling authority chooses to shoot rockets at Israeli civilians from such locations, absolves Israel of the consequences of taking out those rocket launching sites. Therefore the blame rests only and only on the shoulders of Hamas for using it's own population as human shields.

You don't seem to be as concerned for the civilians that the Hamas animals target with their rockets and other terror activities, and only concerned that Hamas continue to be able to commit war crimes and violations without any reciprocity or proper response from the Israelis. That, will never happen with the Israelis. Rest assured, Israel understands the language that these animals speak.

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

Despite your lame false propaganda, Israel doesn't attack civilians intentionally with the intention to kill civilians but rather to go after Hamas terrorists. Hamas on the other hand, goes after Israeli civilians exclusively. Palestinian freedom fighting.

 

[montelatici]

Yeah, because a 2000lb bomb is so targeted isn't it!

Doesn't cause ANY 'collateral damage' does it....

Israel NEVER uses "human shields" does it!

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt... But they are not ISIS!

You need to move away from comparing apples and oranges... When you can then you will start to see some reality in the situation rather than believing and spreading your zionut propaganda!!

Yeah because shooting a rocket from behind a school or hospital is showing concern for innocent civilian life, isn't it? Bottom line, the Palestinians themselves are responsible for the loss of civilian life, since they engage in war crimes against their own people.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that isn't ISIS but with the same exact goals that ISIS, which is, establishing an Islamic Caliphate. You've seen one Islamic terrorist organization you've seen them all.

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

The fact that Hamas doesn't have the "firepower" that Israel has, doesn't absolve it from using locations such as school, hospitals, apartment buildings and mosques. And, since Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza-hole, and that this ruling authority chooses to shoot rockets at Israeli civilians from such locations, absolves Israel of the consequences of taking out those rocket launching sites. Therefore the blame rests only and only on the shoulders of Hamas for using it's own population as human shields.

You don't seem to be as concerned for the civilians that the Hamas animals target with their rockets and other terror activities, and only concerned that Hamas continue to be able to commit war crimes and violations without any reciprocity or proper response from the Israelis. That, will never happen with the Israelis. Rest assured, Israel understands the language that these animals speak.

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

despite your lame false propaganda, Israel doesn't attack civilians intentionally with the intention to

The Israelis intentionally attack civilians as part of the Dahiya doctrine.

The Guardian: "It was there that the second [Israeli] shell hit the beach, those firing apparently adjusting their fire to target the fleeing survivors. As it exploded, journalists standing by the terrace wall shouted: 'They are only children.'" UN high commissioner for human rights Navi Pillay: "A number of incidents, along with the high number of civilian deaths, belies the [Israeli] claim that all necessary precautions are being taken to protect civilian lives." United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict, 2009: "The tactics used by the Israeli armed forces in the Gaza offensive are consistent with previous practices, most recently during the Lebanon war in 2006. A concept known as the Dahiya doctrine emerged then, involving the application of disproportionate force and the causing of great damage and destruction to civilian property and infrastructure, and suffering to civilian populations. The Mission concludes from a review of the facts on the ground that it.. appears to have been precisely what was put into practice."

 

[Roudy]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

First off, why would they lie? And second, do you have any proof that they did?

I've posted proof of it a thousand times, there UN reports condemning the usage of UN schools for shooting and storing rockets, there's the Indian and Danish TV reporters that filmed Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and a hospital. Nothing new with these savages.

Closed, empty schools were for the storage of ordnance.

Women and children were not used as human shields, by the resistance.

"Jeremy Bowen, BBC Middle East editor: "I saw no evidence during my week in Gaza of Israel's accusation that Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields." The Guardian: "In the past week, the Guardian has seen large numbers of people fleeing different neighbourhoods.. and no evidence that Hamas had compelled them to stay." The Independent: "Some Gazans have admitted that they were afraid of criticizing Hamas, but none have said they had been forced by the organisation to stay in places of danger and become unwilling human-shields." Reuters, 2013: "A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields."


Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes

Oh! The schools were CLOSED! Gee, what else would you do with closed schools, but store and shoot rockets from? Dual purpose schools. Ha ha ha. OK so what about the Indian and Danish reporter video taping Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and hospital, myth too? Sure sure.

 

[montelatici]

All lies and bullshit as it's been well established that Hamas shoots rockets from homes, hospitals, and schools, while using Palestinian women and children as human shields. They are evil Islamic terrorist scum like ISIS, and the last thing on their minds is the lives of the civilians.

First off, why would they lie? And second, do you have any proof that they did?

I've posted proof of it a thousand times, there UN reports condemning the usage of UN schools for shooting and storing rockets, there's the Indian and Danish TV reporters that filmed Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and a hospital. Nothing new with these savages.

Closed, empty schools were for the storage of ordnance.

Women and children were not used as human shields, by the resistance.

"Jeremy Bowen, BBC Middle East editor: "I saw no evidence during my week in Gaza of Israel's accusation that Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields." The Guardian: "In the past week, the Guardian has seen large numbers of people fleeing different neighbourhoods.. and no evidence that Hamas had compelled them to stay." The Independent: "Some Gazans have admitted that they were afraid of criticizing Hamas, but none have said they had been forced by the organisation to stay in places of danger and become unwilling human-shields." Reuters, 2013: "A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields."


Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes

Oh! The schools were CLOSED! Gee, what else would you do with closed schools, but store and shoot rockets from? Dual purpose schools. Ha ha ha. OK so what about the Indian and Danish reporter video taping Hamas shooting rockets from behind a hotel and hospital, myth too? Sure sure.

You mean the Telawood videos.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah because shooting a rocket from behind a school or hospital is showing concern for innocent civilian life, isn't it? Bottom line, the Palestinians themselves are responsible for the loss of civilian life, since they engage in war crimes against their own people.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that isn't ISIS but with the same exact goals that ISIS, which is, establishing an Islamic Caliphate. You've seen one Islamic terrorist organization you've seen them all.

Roodboy, your comments are naive at best....

Thank god Hamas don't have the same firepower that Israel has! It's always difficult to hide an F-16 or Cobra helicopters behind a hospital or school isn't it!

I think you might find that Hamas has slightly different goals to ISIS, if you could be bothered to engage brain and understand the differences!

Israel targets civilians, pure and simple... If Israel were in anyway concerned about civilian casualties they would surely use more targeted options than simple blow the shit out of everything indiscriminately. They have the technology, thanks to the US, so why resort to 2000lb bombs that obliterate city blocks of property AND civilians when they can target individuals!

The fact that Hamas doesn't have the "firepower" that Israel has, doesn't absolve it from using locations such as school, hospitals, apartment buildings and mosques. And, since Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza-hole, and that this ruling authority chooses to shoot rockets at Israeli civilians from such locations, absolves Israel of the consequences of taking out those rocket launching sites. Therefore the blame rests only and only on the shoulders of Hamas for using it's own population as human shields.

You don't seem to be as concerned for the civilians that the Hamas animals target with their rockets and other terror activities, and only concerned that Hamas continue to be able to commit war crimes and violations without any reciprocity or proper response from the Israelis. That, will never happen with the Israelis. Rest assured, Israel understands the language that these animals speak.

It's a shame that you cannot see that Israeli is WRONG and does attack civilians...

Yes, Hamas are a terrorist organisation...

Yes, Israel has broken customary international law...

Israel has committed war crimes and should be made to face those crimes...

I don't expect you to take off your Israel tinted glasses and agree... You will just have to learn from what happens in the future! When that time comes you can come back and have a proper debate... Until then you will simply spout your zionut propaganda and hope that everyone is a moron like your good self and believe every word of the 'Untouchable Israel'

despite your lame false propaganda, Israel doesn't attack civilians intentionally with the intention to

The Israelis intentionally attack civilians as part of the Dahiya doctrine.

The Guardian: "It was there that the second [Israeli] shell hit the beach, those firing apparently adjusting their fire to target the fleeing survivors. As it exploded, journalists standing by the terrace wall shouted: 'They are only children.'" UN high commissioner for human rights Navi Pillay: "A number of incidents, along with the high number of civilian deaths, belies the [Israeli] claim that all necessary precautions are being taken to protect civilian lives." United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict, 2009: "The tactics used by the Israeli armed forces in the Gaza offensive are consistent with previous practices, most recently during the Lebanon war in 2006. A concept known as the Dahiya doctrine emerged then, involving the application of disproportionate force and the causing of great damage and destruction to civilian property and infrastructure, and suffering to civilian populations. The Mission concludes from a review of the facts on the ground that it.. appears to have been precisely what was put into practice."

zzzzz what a load of gibberish. The Gaza offensive was to stop the 5,000 rockets being shot at Israel and Hamas terror tunnels.

Meanwhile there is no doubt that Hamas cowards ONLY target civilians. Such brave fighters.

Hamas = ISIS of Gaza.