Isn't this sickening....How far we have fallen.

[1srelluc]

Blah, you can't get pasty-faced skinny jeans clad "men" to flip burgers, much less work in a steel mill. We should be fuckin' well ashamed of ourselves.

 

[Moonglow]

You need to talk to all the steelworkers in the US and apologize to them for doing a hard job you have never done.

 

[1srelluc]

You need to talk to all the steelworkers in the US and apologize to them for doing a hard job you have never done.

I worked in a industrial environment for 20 years Sport.....And guess what, it was sold off.

 

[Dekster]

Blah, you can't get pasty-faced skinny jeans clad "men" to flip burgers, much less work in a steel mill. We should be fuckin' well ashamed of ourselves.

What the graphic suggests to me is the US (and most of the world) have not been growing their production capacity for a very long time and China has invested heavily in it. That problem isn't cause by pasty-faced skinny jeans clad people. It is caused by pasty-faced over-sized suit clad board rooms.

 

[initforme]

Pay a bunch more to steelworkers and problem solved. Easy.

 

[Moonglow]

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I worked in a industrial environment for 20 years Sport.....And guess what, it was sold off.

Sounds like a personal problem, should have started your own business as I did.

 

[1srelluc]

What the graphic suggests to me is the US (and most of the world) have not been growing their production capacity for a very long time and China has invested heavily in it. That problem isn't cause by pasty-faced skinny jeans clad people. It is caused by pasty-faced over-sized suit clad board rooms.

I did not say it was caused by them but you are correct American Steel got sold down the river.

That said I'm not seeing the type of workforce available today with the fortitude to even do the job unless it's Hispanics.

 

[1srelluc]

Sounds like a personal problem, should have started your own business as I did.

I did well for me and mine....Two pensions, land holdings, and a very good investment portfolio. I'll admit, I had some breaks go my way too.

 

[Paleman]

Pay a bunch more to steelworkers and problem solved. Easy.

Don't know your political leaning but that answer is pure liberal. Throw money at everything and anything, that will fix it they say.

 

[initforme]

If you want people to work then pay them.

 

[candycorn]

Its cheaper to make the steel somewhere else and import it. The same for oil, timber, etc...

Unless you want to get into *hiss* socialism and restrain businesses from maximizing profits....this is the way it is.

 

[eagle1462010]

Outokumpu confirms deal to buy ThyssenKrupp stainless division

MOBILE, Alabama -- Executives with Finland's Outokumpu Oyj announced this morning that they have reached an agreement to buy ThyssenKrupp AG's stainless steel unit.

www.al.com

 

[initforme]

American workers are wisening up. Want me to work in a steel mill? $25 per hour isn't going to get it done.

 

[eagle1462010]

American workers are wisening up. Want me to work in a steel mill? $25 per hour isn't going to get it done.

Helper wages there..............they pay more than that.......i know people who work there.........and helped build it..........

Only thing stopping it is our corrupt politicians pandering to CHINA.

 

[initforme]

$50 per hour will get some workers.

 

[miketx]

Pay a bunch more to steelworkers and problem solved. Easy.

Where they gonna work?

 

[miketx]

However, the experience of the US steel industry in the economic doldrums of the 1970s and 1980s shows what a painful path that can be.

Lessons from the steel crisis of the 1980s

The US has already tried to save a steel industry, and its undercooked response holds some valuable lessons.

theconversation.com

 

[Dekster]

I did not say it was caused by them but you are correct American Steel got sold down the river.

That said I'm not seeing the type of workforce available today with the fortitude to even do the job unless it's Hispanics.

Lots of industries have been sold down the river, especially manufacturing pretty much anything and much of what remains that we call manufacturing is "assembling out of foreign parts". There has never been in my lifetime at least a thoughtful cohesive national plan to balance interests as the economy has grown. I mean a teenager with a checking account and a cellphone can robinhood their way to millionaire status which is exciting, but that comes at the cost of cannibalizing capital and avoid major expansions of physical assets that will be obsolete before your first shipment rolls off the line. Both sides of the political spectrum get this wrong. I am not sure how he get to the point where we hurt some people some to help all people over a longer time frame. With my cellphone and banking account, however, I have started robinhooding more consistent dividend producing small and medium cap stocks and holding them. Sure I missed out on the gamestop nonsense (which sucked because that was the free share robinhood gave me when I started with them and I sold it when it was up like a quarter LOL). Maybe COVID/shutdowns/inflation/supplychain vulnerabilities that have been exposed in the last couple years will cause more of these companies to get back to brick and mortar investment over multi-billion dollar acquisitions. IDK. Hope in one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled first.

 

[Darkwind]

If you want people to work then pay them.

You pay what the business can sustain. NOT what the whiney bastards demand.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

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I worked in a industrial environment for 20 years Sport.....And guess what, it was sold off.

Pay him no mind.

Unless you want to know what it would be like to speak directly to CNN...it's best to ignore him.