CDZ Islamification of The West

[Coyote]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

There appears to be no indication of that in reality. Those countries and their culture are well grounded in a constitutional system of rights and a seperation of religion from state and the assumption you have that all muslims are intolerant is faulty.

 

[Coyote]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

We already have that to some degree, with the misogynistic sharia courts stripping women of their human rights.

How are they "stripped of their human rights" and what "human rights" are you talking about?

 

[Coyote]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

then what are the islamic folks fighting against?

Which ones?

 

[jc456]

......Which places your continuous defense of any and all things Islamic in their proper context.

You do so knowing that it will lead to a destruction of freedom of religion and tolerance.

So, tolerating Islam in western nations will lead to the destruction of freedom of religion?

How?

Tolerating the ultimate intolerance is not actually furthering tolerance.

It is simple abetting intolerance.


As Islam grows and spreads, tolerance diminishes. Islam is all ABOUT intolerance, since it was created as a quasi-religious totalitarian political system that wages continual war on all other ways of life.

Are you arguing against freedom of religion?

Since you admitted that wherever Islam prevails such freedom disappears, I will leave that to you.

Answer the question - are you arguing against freedom of religion? In other words, is "tolerance" in western countries reserved for only approved religions (assuming all are acting lawfully)?

As far as freedoms - that is less dependent on religion than it is on many other factors such as governance, stability, education, culture etc. Business Insider posted a list of "Least Free" countries, and it includes non-Islamic as well as Islamic majority countries: The 15 least free countries in the world I think anytime religion begins to interfere with government freedoms begin to diminish for minorities - I'm an advocate of strict seperation between religion and governance.

If Islam is "all ABOUT" intolerance that is not universally shared among it's adherents who's views vary depending on where in the world they live.

Like it or not, the US was created as a christian country, people came here to enjoy life under that umbrella. Not to change it. So was Great Britain. Why does the country need to adopt another religious sector? What does that accomplish?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

......Which places your continuous defense of any and all things Islamic in their proper context.

You do so knowing that it will lead to a destruction of freedom of religion and tolerance.

So, tolerating Islam in western nations will lead to the destruction of freedom of religion?

How?

Tolerating the ultimate intolerance is not actually furthering tolerance.

It is simple abetting intolerance.


As Islam grows and spreads, tolerance diminishes. Islam is all ABOUT intolerance, since it was created as a quasi-religious totalitarian political system that wages continual war on all other ways of life.

Are you arguing against freedom of religion?

Since you admitted that wherever Islam prevails such freedom disappears, I will leave that to you.

Answer the question - are you arguing against freedom of religion? In other words, is "tolerance" in western countries reserved for only approved religions (assuming all are acting lawfully)?

As far as freedoms - that is less dependent on religion than it is on many other factors such as governance, stability, education, culture etc. Business Insider posted a list of "Least Free" countries, and it includes non-Islamic as well as Islamic majority countries: The 15 least free countries in the world I think anytime religion begins to interfere with government freedoms begin to diminish for minorities - I'm an advocate of strict seperation between religion and governance.

If Islam is "all ABOUT" intolerance that is not universally shared among it's adherents who's views vary depending on where in the world they live.

If you were actually an advocate for the strict separation of religion and politics, the defense of the most insidious ideology seeking to destroy such separation forever would not be your top priority in life.

 

[jc456]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

then what are the islamic folks fighting against?

Which ones?

ISIS

 

[Mac1958]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

And they're telling us it's what they're gonna do.

Evidently some folks think they're "kidding".


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[jc456]

again, I see in here the leftest still defending the religion of women haters. I don't get it. Truly it blows my mind.

 

[Arianrhod]

well two shot up a bunch of Californians.

As compared to how many other Californians shot up other Californians that day, and how many of them were Islamic terrorists?

why does that matter are you saying that justifies it?

Absolutely not.

 

[Tilly]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

We already have that to some degree, with the misogynistic sharia courts stripping women of their human rights.

How are they "stripped of their human rights" and what "human rights" are you talking about?

I've already posted on this earlier and provided links. Not doing it again.

 

[jc456]

well two shot up a bunch of Californians.

As compared to how many other Californians shot up other Californians that day, and how many of them were Islamic terrorists?

why does that matter are you saying that justifies it?

Absolutely not.

then what's your problem?

 

[Coyote]

So, tolerating Islam in western nations will lead to the destruction of freedom of religion?

How?

Tolerating the ultimate intolerance is not actually furthering tolerance.

It is simple abetting intolerance.


As Islam grows and spreads, tolerance diminishes. Islam is all ABOUT intolerance, since it was created as a quasi-religious totalitarian political system that wages continual war on all other ways of life.

Are you arguing against freedom of religion?

Since you admitted that wherever Islam prevails such freedom disappears, I will leave that to you.

Answer the question - are you arguing against freedom of religion? In other words, is "tolerance" in western countries reserved for only approved religions (assuming all are acting lawfully)?

As far as freedoms - that is less dependent on religion than it is on many other factors such as governance, stability, education, culture etc. Business Insider posted a list of "Least Free" countries, and it includes non-Islamic as well as Islamic majority countries: The 15 least free countries in the world I think anytime religion begins to interfere with government freedoms begin to diminish for minorities - I'm an advocate of strict seperation between religion and governance.

If Islam is "all ABOUT" intolerance that is not universally shared among it's adherents who's views vary depending on where in the world they live.

If you were actually an advocate for the strict separation of religion and politics, the defense of the most insidious ideology seeking to destroy such separation forever would not be your top priority in life.

It's not my top priority in life. I also disagree with your claim it is "the most insidious ideology". You seem to think that our Constitution is so fragile it will fall with one Muslim puff. It has withstood over two centuries and the best efforts of the Christian majority in this country to amend religiously-based changes to it and you think Muslims will be able to innact wide-sweeping changes that will destroy our rights, culture and laws? Muslims who are immigrants to this country by and large fled oppressive regimes both political and religious, and I hardly think they will want to give up their rights and freedoms to return to that. Native Muslims have long supported our Constitution and see no conflict between our way of life and their faith, much like native Christians, Jews etc.

 

[Carla_Danger]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

We already have that to some degree, with the misogynistic sharia courts stripping women of their human rights.

How are they "stripped of their human rights" and what "human rights" are you talking about?

I've already posted on this earlier and provided links. Not doing it again.

On what page?

 

[Coyote]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

.......and as Islam continues to grow in Europe , then European countries will be governed by religious intolerance eventually.

We already have that to some degree, with the misogynistic sharia courts stripping women of their human rights.

How are they "stripped of their human rights" and what "human rights" are you talking about?

I've already posted on this earlier and provided links. Not doing it again.

Which post? This thread is very long.

 

[Coyote]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

then what are the islamic folks fighting against?

Which ones?

ISIS

ISIS is a specific group - they're fighting for a their totalitarian vision of supremacy and apocolyptic vision.

 

[jc456]

Tolerating the ultimate intolerance is not actually furthering tolerance.

It is simple abetting intolerance.


As Islam grows and spreads, tolerance diminishes. Islam is all ABOUT intolerance, since it was created as a quasi-religious totalitarian political system that wages continual war on all other ways of life.

Are you arguing against freedom of religion?

Since you admitted that wherever Islam prevails such freedom disappears, I will leave that to you.

Answer the question - are you arguing against freedom of religion? In other words, is "tolerance" in western countries reserved for only approved religions (assuming all are acting lawfully)?

As far as freedoms - that is less dependent on religion than it is on many other factors such as governance, stability, education, culture etc. Business Insider posted a list of "Least Free" countries, and it includes non-Islamic as well as Islamic majority countries: The 15 least free countries in the world I think anytime religion begins to interfere with government freedoms begin to diminish for minorities - I'm an advocate of strict seperation between religion and governance.

If Islam is "all ABOUT" intolerance that is not universally shared among it's adherents who's views vary depending on where in the world they live.

If you were actually an advocate for the strict separation of religion and politics, the defense of the most insidious ideology seeking to destroy such separation forever would not be your top priority in life.

It's not my top priority in life. I also disagree with your claim it is "the most insidious ideology". You seem to think that our Constitution is so fragile it will fall with one Muslim puff. It has withstood over two centuries and the best efforts of the Christian majority in this country to amend religiously-based changes to it and you think Muslims will be able to innact wide-sweeping changes that will destroy our rights, culture and laws? Muslims who are immigrants to this country by and large fled oppressive regimes both political and religious, and I hardly think they will want to give up their rights and freedoms to return to that. Native Muslims have long supported our Constitution and see no conflict between our way of life and their faith, much like native Christians, Jews etc.

they got a muslim in as president and look at the things that came of that? holy crap are you kidding me? wow. that infers that you can't see he has no clothes on.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Tolerating the ultimate intolerance is not actually furthering tolerance.

It is simple abetting intolerance.


As Islam grows and spreads, tolerance diminishes. Islam is all ABOUT intolerance, since it was created as a quasi-religious totalitarian political system that wages continual war on all other ways of life.

Are you arguing against freedom of religion?

Since you admitted that wherever Islam prevails such freedom disappears, I will leave that to you.

Answer the question - are you arguing against freedom of religion? In other words, is "tolerance" in western countries reserved for only approved religions (assuming all are acting lawfully)?

As far as freedoms - that is less dependent on religion than it is on many other factors such as governance, stability, education, culture etc. Business Insider posted a list of "Least Free" countries, and it includes non-Islamic as well as Islamic majority countries: The 15 least free countries in the world I think anytime religion begins to interfere with government freedoms begin to diminish for minorities - I'm an advocate of strict seperation between religion and governance.

If Islam is "all ABOUT" intolerance that is not universally shared among it's adherents who's views vary depending on where in the world they live.

If you were actually an advocate for the strict separation of religion and politics, the defense of the most insidious ideology seeking to destroy such separation forever would not be your top priority in life.

It's not my top priority in life. I also disagree with your claim it is "the most insidious ideology". You seem to think that our Constitution is so fragile it will fall with one Muslim puff. It has withstood over two centuries and the best efforts of the Christian majority in this country to amend religiously-based changes to it and you think Muslims will be able to innact wide-sweeping changes that will destroy our rights, culture and laws? Muslims who are immigrants to this country by and large fled oppressive regimes both political and religious, and I hardly think they will want to give up their rights and freedoms to return to that. Native Muslims have long supported our Constitution and see no conflict between our way of life and their faith, much like native Christians, Jews etc.

I think the first mosque was built in the United States back in 1929. We've been living peacefully with them for years. And since 9-11 we've had more Christian terror attacks here in the states.

 

[jc456]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

then what are the islamic folks fighting against?

Which ones?

ISIS

ISIS is a specific group - they're fighting for a their totalitarian vision of supremacy and apocolyptic vision.

and islamic. I would bet 50% of muslims defend their actions.

 

[Arianrhod]

well two shot up a bunch of Californians.

As compared to how many other Californians shot up other Californians that day, and how many of them were Islamic terrorists?

why does that matter are you saying that justifies it?

Absolutely not.

then what's your problem?

With anyone who twists my words? A big one.

 

[Carla_Danger]

All religiously governed societies are built upon intolerance - I can't think of one that is truly egalitarian in nature or where all are truly equally tolerated, because there is one group that is the "right group".

then what are the islamic folks fighting against?

Which ones?

ISIS

This thread isn't about ISIS.