Islam and the 1st Amendment

New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..

It is in a majority of places where it's practiced. The majority of Muslims get State protection of their religion. But for a 2nd or 4th generation Amer. or British Muslim family -- that's not an issue. They KNOW they are one of many different beliefs.. Not saying that a 3rd gen Amer. Muslim can't be radicalized. But it would be an anomaly.

In a sense, (if we survive it) -- all this immigration to the West might "de-radicalize" Islam quite a bit in the long run..

This deal about a "peaceful" Islam is a construct of Westerners. Because it's POSSIBLE to exist in those places. Not likely that the BULK of Islam worldwide has a prayer of being "peaceful" and having goals to co-exist with other religions and beliefs..
 
I have a unique legal argument: the Bill of Right applies to humans, and since muslims are the product of several dozens of consecutive generations of 1st-cousin fucking (per Mo's example) I don't consider anything as genetically fucked up as a muslim to be truly human at the biological level. So certain "human" rights don't apply to these ass-lifting testaments to everything the primate family has ever done wrong.
 
Yet another example of the freedom/constitution loving Conservatards !!

Lol! You could not write a more unconstitional law if you tried !
 
David Deming proposes a Constitutional Amendment and taxation to exclude Islam from the protections of the 1st Amendment in order to preserve America and Western Civilization....

Donald Trump created a media firestorm when he called for a moratorium on Muslim immigration to the US. Trump was denounced as a xenophobic racist -- as if Islam was not a religion, but a race (go figure). Trump's announcement was apparently prompted by a terrorist attack in San Bernardino, California, where two Islamic terrorists killed fourteen people. The San Bernardino incident followed in the wake of a coordinated strike by ISIS in November that slaughtered 130 people in Paris, France.

It's an absurd but deadly circus. Time after time, Islamic terrorists murder innocent people, and leftists immediately fall all over themselves to embrace Muslims and declare Islam to be a "religion of peace." In my home state, the director of the Oklahoma chapter of CAIR denounced anti-Muslim rhetoric and warned, "hateful words too often lead to violence." Listening to this sort of propaganda one might obtain the impression that Christian Crusaders were massacring innocent Muslims. The reality is that Islamic terrorists worldwide are intent not just on the genocide of Christians but the replacement of Western Civilization by a universal caliphate. If any people doubt this, I would invite them to watch the Frontline documentary, The Rise of Isis.

A group called the Islamic Circle of North America has been putting up billboards in major cities in the US. The billboards read "Muhammad believed in peace, social justice, and women's rights." Of course he did. Muhammad's idea of peace and social justice was killing anyone who refused to accept his religion. And it is true that women have certain rights in Islam. So did African slaves in the antebellum South. Southern States enacted Slave Codes that detailed and protected these rights. It's easy to completely deceive people with half-truths.

Michael Moore scaled the heights of stupidity by standing outside the Trump Tower in New York City holding up a sign that read, "we are all Muslim." Moore knows we're not literally all Muslims, so presumably his message was that we're all capable of being victims of religious discrimination. President Obama has steadfastly refused to even acknowledge the existence of Islamic terrorism. The message we're supposed to take from this is that Islam is just another religion, like Buddhism, Hinduism, or Presbyterianism.

In 1997, a left-wing think tank in the UK, the Runnymede Trust, coined the neologism "Islamophobia." "Islamophobia" is now defined in a lengthy Wikipedia article as "prejudice against, hatred towards, or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims." A phobia is an irrational fear. Thus the term by its very existence presumes what necessarily must be demonstrated: that dislike of Islam is irrational.

We're repeatedly assured that Islamic terrorists are not Islamic, that Islam is a religion of peace, and we should wholeheartedly embrace our peaceful Muslim brothers and open our borders to them. We're supposed to accept all of this while we're being slaughtered like sheep. What makes the promulgation of this nonsense possible and acceptable to a large segment of our society is simple ignorance. According to a recent Pew Poll, most Americans "know little or nothing about Islam."

I know something about Islam, and I'm writing to tell you that it's worse than you think. When Donald Trump suggested a cessation to Muslim immigration he didn't go far enough. We need a Constitutional Amendment to exclude Islam from the protections of the First Amendment. I hesitate to suggest such a radical idea, but will explain myself at length.

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Islam is nothing like Christianity. For that matter, it's unlike every other religion on earth. Islam is not just a religion -- it's a vicious totalitarian system that governs every aspect of human behavior. Islam is not based on concepts of love or mercy. It's based on tyranny, killing, and suppression. Islam is utterly antithetical to the Western ideal of individual freedom. The very word "Islam" means "submission." William Muir (1819-1905) was perhaps the most perspicacious and knowledgeable Western scholar who ever studied Islam. The first one-hundred and five pages of his monumental Life of Mahomet is devoted to a discussion and evaluation of primary and original sources. Muir concluded "the sword of Mahomet, and the Koran, are the most fatal enemies of civilization, liberty, and truth, which the world has yet known."


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The cult of Islam has zero tolerance for any sort of freedom, the first amendment means nothing to them...
 
Yet another example of the freedom/constitution loving Conservatards !!

Lol! You could not write a more unconstitional law if you tried !
Timmy did you...

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Again?
 
Ummm, you freaks know we've had Muslims in this country since forever ? And they've done nothing like you've described.

Unlike other religions . Mormons I'm looking at you!!!
 
"David Deming proposes a Constitutional Amendment and taxation to exclude Islam from the protections of the 1st Amendment in order to preserve America and Western Civilization...."

This is as ignorant as it is moronic, bigoted, and wrong.

The only way for Deming to achieve his hateful goal is to 'amend' the Constitution to repeal the First Amendment altogether; the stupidity of this is further illustrated by the fact that seeking to persecute a religion not only fails to extinguish that religion, but actually increases the resolve of its adherents to continue to practice their faith – Deming clearly knows nothing of history.

Moreover, Islam in no way poses a 'threat' to the United States or Western Civilization – the notion is unfounded demagoguery and fear-mongering, the delusional belief of xenophobes, nativists, and other reactionary bigots.

Millions of Muslim Americans – and Muslims living in the West – lead perfectly normal, law-abiding lives as loyal Americans and citizens of the United States, dedicated to the principles of our Nation to respect the religion of others, respect the rule of law, and respect the Framers' mandate to keep separate religion and the state.
 
Islam is nothing like Christianity. For that matter, it's unlike every other religion on earth. Islam is not just a religion -- it's a vicious totalitarian system that governs every aspect of human behavior.
I agree. Any religion which doesn't allow women to vote, enslaves other races, oppresses homosexuals, and compels people to worship their God is a serious threat to the future of America.

Oh, wait...
 
I think muslims should have the first amendment right just like anyone else. But is the "anyone else" that gets trampled on that I don't like(don't take that to mean that I support muslims getting trampled).
Like that principal deciding to eliminate valentines day, Christmas and thanksgiving. THEY are to assimilate. NOT the other way around. If they don't like America, then why fuckin come here?
they come here to conquer not to assimilate....that is the very essence of Islam....
I wont argue that lol. I just don't think we should relinquish their rights because they want to serve totalitarianism..
so you're OK with them establishing totalitarian enclaves within America....?
A ridiculous lie, Muslims are doing no such thing.
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..

Yet we have millions of American Muslims who participate in American society, pay their taxes, obey our laws and vote.

According to the RWNJ's no Muslims ever do that- and they are all just waiting to murder us all....but where are the 2 million Muslim Americans out there murdering Americans?
 
I just don't understand this daily need for people to shit their pants in public. I really don't.

EEK! A MUSLIM! EEK! (*squirrrrrrrt*)
 
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David Deming proposes a Constitutional Amendment and taxation to exclude Islam from the protections of the 1st Amendment in order to preserve America and Western Civilization....
The Gnu Right just loves them some of that US Constitution, when it suits them. But, boy, it sure is pesky sometimes! We gots to change it!
 
We need that manly man Putin to come here and show us how to fix these bomb-laden Muslims under my bed. (*squirrrrrrrrrrt*)
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..

Yet we have millions of American Muslims who participate in American society, pay their taxes, obey our laws and vote.

According to the RWNJ's no Muslims ever do that- and they are all just waiting to murder us all....but where are the 2 million Muslim Americans out there murdering Americans?
If someone says that they are fuckin retarded. Just like left wing limp wrists and their denial. Both sides are fuckin pathetic
 
David Deming proposes a Constitutional Amendment and taxation to exclude Islam from the protections of the 1st Amendment in order to preserve America and Western Civilization....
The Gnu Right just loves them some of that US Constitution, when it suits them. But, boy, it sure is pesky sometimes! We gots to change it!
Says the Reagan conservative..
Can't make this shit up :lol:
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..

Yet we have millions of American Muslims who participate in American society, pay their taxes, obey our laws and vote.

According to the RWNJ's no Muslims ever do that- and they are all just waiting to murder us all....but where are the 2 million Muslim Americans out there murdering Americans?
If someone says that they are fuckin retarded. Just like left wing limp wrists and their denial. Both sides are fuckin pathetic

Anyone suggesting denying Americans their First Amendment rights is a fucking pathetic limp dick nut job.
 
New Amer. Muslims just don't understand the separation of Govt from Religion part. They ASSUME that every country will validate their beliefs and make them into law. THEY need to read and understand the 1st Amend. And maybe sign a declaration that they accept the OTHER Amendments as well.

We don't need to violate our own freedoms to impose on them. We just need to be more discriminating in who we let in..
They cant separate it because islam is also a political system..

Yet we have millions of American Muslims who participate in American society, pay their taxes, obey our laws and vote.

According to the RWNJ's no Muslims ever do that- and they are all just waiting to murder us all....but where are the 2 million Muslim Americans out there murdering Americans?

Not 2 Million of them.. But there are 200 or 400 that have gone to fight with ISIS (or tried) -- and we don't strip their citizenship... There's also about 150,000 (from Pew stats) that are sympathetic to the Jihadist radicalized version of Islam -- and MIGHT be funding or contributing to it.

The issue is not "OUR muslims".. It's the influence that leaking in/out of our borders. Saudi and Quatar are spending BILLIONS to make sure that the politicized, radicalized versions of Islam infiltrate the Western countries. And again -- we do nothing to stop it.. At one time -- the Wahabist Koran versions were the most prevalent in prison libraries. Courtesy of the Saudis. We were allowing them to radicalize people in our own prison population.

We've got to be smart about it. Not pissing panicked. And NOT make the bad decisions we see being made elsewhere if we want the "peaceful" version of Islam to propagate..

In a way --- taking sides in some elses' religious wars --- IS a Constitutional problem. But the radicals have already "taken a side" against us..
 

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