Is Water Redistribution To Control Climate Change A Viable Option ?

[my2¢]

Water redistribution most often talked about in these here parts is taking flood waters from the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers and piping them into the Colorado. Not practical.

 

[Woodznutz]

I dont think we should deplete the underground water table for agriculture

But we need more water in my opinion not less lettuce

To cultivate lettuce, you will need almost 27,000 gallons of water per week per acre12. A single lettuce plant can stay fit in just 1 cubic inch of water available per week1. Lettuce requires watering every four to five days on a constant basis for the majority of their lives34. The first two weeks after planting may need watering on a daily basis, depending on your location’s weather patterns and climate zone4. Maximum water use by lettuce is approximately 0.15 in. of water per day, but can vary depending on location and time of planting5.

 

[Woodznutz]

Water redistribution most often talked about in these here parts is taking flood waters from the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers and piping them into the Colorado. Not practical.

Flood water is notoriously polluted. The cost of purifying it would be enormous.

 

[Mac-7]

Lettuce farms repel rainwater. Grasslands attract rainwater. We need more grasslands, which is great for raising grass fed beef.

I am thinking enough water tondo both

 

[Woodznutz]

I am thinking enough water tondo both

Groundwater is being depleted, and the rain isn't falling where needed. We have droughts in one place and flooding in others.

However, the groundwater of flooded areas is being recharged and purified by filtration/percolation and could be piped to other areas that need it. Flood water itself is usually very polluted.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

" Chinese Smog Needs Rain Or Filtration "

* Uncertain Extent Of Implementation *

I believe the new goal is to recapture carbon dioxide rather than releasing it into the environment .

I think following fixes to a non problem is the greater problem

 

[ding]

How about before responding to a post you actually read it well enough to understand what is being said.

I know what was being said.

any government that can ban abortion can also require it ...

I reject that.

It happened in China.

 

[Crick]

" Spot Watering And Forestation Affects On Carbon Dioxide Recovery Rates "

* Deserted Bloom *

The carbon dioxide cycle includes a recapture process through photosynthesis , while the proportion of terrestrial organic matter available to complete photosynthesis seems to be insufficient and further diminished by concrete jungle expansion and over population of hue mammon apes .

While ambient temperature under a forest canopy may be warm , it is far less than direct sunlight in a clearing and exceedingly less than direct sunlight while standing on hot rocks .

The nitrate levels of nevada deserts are exceptional for growing citrus .

Deforestation has always been cited as a factor in global warming and rising CO2 levels, but it is dwarfed by human emisisions. But is is simply not feasable - by a large margin - to address a problem of this scale with mass irrigation with an already limited and shrinking resource (fresh water). The first thing required of our fresh water supply is providing drinking water to the planet's population. That requirement is not currently well met, so the idea of moving huge masses of that water to grow citrus in the desert is just not a viable option.

 

[Woodznutz]

Deforestation has always been cited as a factor in global warming and rising CO2 levels, but it is dwarfed by human emisisions. But is is simply not feasable - by a large margin - to address a problem of this scale with mass irrigation with an already limited and shrinking resource (fresh water). The first thing required of our fresh water supply is providing drinking water to the planet's population. That requirement is not currently well met, so the idea of moving huge masses of that water to grow citrus in the desert is just not a viable option.

The main problem is overpopulation. Too great a strain on all resources.

 

[Crick]

The main problem is overpopulation. Too great a strain on all resources.

We can push it back even further and say that the problem is the human intelligence that allows us to avoid the many mortalities that keep the populations of other flora and fauna in check. But, given it's long lifespan in the atmosphere, even a smaller population living at US prosperity levels in a fossil fuel-powered economy would have eventually run into global warming.

 

[Woodznutz]

We can push it back even further and say that the problem is the human intelligence that allows us to avoid the many mortalities that keep the populations of other flora and fauna in check. But, given it's long lifespan in the atmosphere, even a smaller population living at US prosperity levels in a fossil fuel-powered economy would have eventually run into global warming.

Evil at all levels is our biggest problem. Worse is that people don't believe they are evil.

 

[Crick]

Evil at all levels is our biggest problem. Worse is that people don't believe they are evil.

There are lots of people who think they are evil (or have failed in some way to be a good person) who have done nothing but behave as all humans sometimes do. I think the problem is the accuracy of our knowledge of how the world around us actually works and of that information on which we base our choices and decisions. Every person in the human race believes something that isn't true. Some errors hurt no one: "moths have a more sensitive sense of smell than do butterflies". Other errors can have dramatic consequences: "the 2020 election was stolen from the American people and Biden-voters must die to restore our democracy". Those flawed beliefs are based on combinations of flawed information and flawed assessment, judgement and evaluation skills. The solution is the same thing that has brought our species from nomadic game hunters to our current state: objective and accurate education.

 

[Woodznutz]

There are lots of people who think they are evil (or have failed in some way to be a good person) who have done nothing but behave as all humans sometimes do. I think the problem is the accuracy of our knowledge of how the world around us actually works and of that information on which we base our choices and decisions. Every person in the human race believes something that isn't true. Some errors hurt no one: "moths have a more sensitive sense of smell than do butterflies". Other errors can have dramatic consequences: "the 2020 election was stolen from the American people and Biden-voters must die to restore our democracy". Those flawed beliefs are based on combinations of flawed information and flawed assessment, judgement and evaluation skills. The solution is the same thing that has brought our species from nomadic game hunters to our current state: objective and accurate education.

Downstream from our current education is a wasteland of destruction that can be directly linked to it via failed leadership at all (upper) levels of society.

I have graduate student tenants that are unable to follow simple building instructions. Also, there has been a sea change in their attitudes and demeanor of late. They are discourteous to the point of rudeness, and they seem very depressed.

"Elections matter", to the point that the Democrat voters will knowingly take the whole country down the rathole via their party's policies without batting an eye. Their credo should be, "How can we fuck up the country unless we win elections." Which would be similar to an actual logger's credo in the west,

"We're not here to make the forest look pretty."

 

[Crick]

Downstream from our "objective and accurate" education is a wasteland of destruction that can be directly linked to it via failed leadership at all (upper) levels of society.

I didn't say "our" objective and accurate education, but I reject your charge.

I have graduate student tenants that are unable to follow simple building instructions.

I know expert handymen who couldn't tell you what makes the sun shine or the rain fall.

Also, there has been a sea change in their attitudes and demeanor of late.

I would chalk 99% of that up to one Donald J Trump.

They are discourteous to the point of rudeness, and they seem very depressed.

Once again, Donald J Trump.

"Elections matter", to the point that the Democrat voters will knowingly take the whole country down the rathole via their party's policies without batting an eye.

Democratic policies are not going to take this country down a rathole. Trump attempting to suspend the Constitution, put his political opponents in jail and replace career government employees with people whose only qualification is holding Trump uber alles will CERTAINLY end this nation as we know it.

Their credo should be, "How can we fuck up the country unless we win elections."

Their credo IS how can we stop Donald J Trump from fucking up this country?

 

[Woodznutz]

I know expert handymen who couldn't tell you what makes the sun shine or the rain fall.

I don't that is a requirement for their job. And it's no worse than my students who think the sun rises and sets for their benefit alone.

 

[Crick]

I don't that is a requirement for their job. And it's no worse than my students who think the sun rises and sets for their benefit alone.

Unless they're graduate students in some related field, there is no reason to be surprised at them not knowing the house rules. It is not an indication of any failure in our educational system.

 

[Woodznutz]

Democratic policies are not going to take this country down a rathole. Trump attempting to suspend the Constitution, put his political opponents in jail and replace career government employees with people whose only qualification is holding Trump uber alles will CERTAINLY end this nation as we know it.

I didn't say "our" objective and accurate education, but I reject your charge.

I actually amended that statement to simply read "our current education" as I couldn't attribute "objective and accurate" to it even with power quotes around it.

 

[Crick]

I actually amended that statement to simply read "our current education" as I couldn't attribute "objective and accurate" to it even with power quotes around it.

Again, I was saying what was needed, not what we already have. And also again, I reject your criticism of America's public education system.

 

[Woodznutz]

Unless they're graduate students in some related field, there is no reason to be surprised at them not knowing the house rules. It is not an indication of any failure in our educational system.

Each tenant is given a copy of the house rules along with the lease. They just don't think rules apply to them.

Important MOVING IN information​

You may park at the rear entrance to unload, but don’t block door or parking spaces.

Four-wheel dollies for your use in moving are in the laundry room. Please return promptly when finished moving in (or out) so others may use them.

Dispose of trash properly. Recycle items go in the green carts located on either side of the front entrance. Flatten large boxes and place between the carts. All other trash and garbage go in the dumpster located by the main driveway in the front parking lot.

Inspect apartment. Inform us of any deficiencies as soon as possible.

Place electric service in your name as per moving in date. Contact Gas and Electric

To avoid locking yourself out only use the upper deadbolt lock. By doing this you will always take your key with you. Lockouts occur when the lower knob lock is used. Very important!

Smoke alarm has long life battery but will ‘chirp’ if new battery is needed. Inform ...if this occurs. If cooking smoke sets it off it can be silenced by pushing the ‘test button’, or removing it from the apartment until the smoke clears (twist counterclockwise to remove).

If faucet drips, slow drains, or leaks under sinks occur inform... right away. ... can also show you how to avoid toilet overflows. You should obtain your own plunger, however.

Don’t move the stove from the position you find it. An air space is needed to prevent the sink cabinet and the stove side from rusting from spilled liquids. The refrigerator can be moved slightly as long as the door doesn’t hit the sink cabinet.

Visitor parking is in the small parking lot just behind ... house (the white house just west of... .), in the unmarked row, facing west. Visitors may not park in the center of the main lot, or in any space with a named sign.

Storage lockers are available if needed. Contact ... about this.

 

[Woodznutz]

Again, I was saying what was needed, not what we already have. And also again, I reject your criticism of America's public education system.

Our kids graduate with no idea of our nation's history. No wonder they are adrift with no anchor.