Is Trump negotiating with himself?

[Winston]

where?

North Carolina for one. 200,000 people lost their health insurance. More than any other state in the country. The Medicaid cuts are just beginning to be felt. The Trump administration pretty much gave Western North Carolina a screwing when it comes to Hurricane Helene recovery. The cuts to the NIH have devastated the Triangle. And at the State level, well the Republican party is incomplete disarray. Their long time party leader was primaried out, LOL. State still hasn't passed a budget.

 

[Mac1958]

Sorry, but much more than luck. Defections at the higher ranks? Yes, maybe the military, but not the religious leadership, that is not going away anytime soon, if ever.

It appears Kharg Island is now on Trump's target list. Ground troops will enter a damn killing field, for Iran, it will be like shooting fish in a damn barrel, with drones. Trump has managed to manipulate himself into a lose/lose proposition, demonstrating perfectly just how good of a business man he really is.

It looks like Trump can neither bully them nor bomb them enough. Well, that's all he knows. That's as deep as he gets.

Which doesn't make me very hopeful here.

 

[Mac1958]

Remember the movie "Crimson Tide"?

USS Alabama, a U.S. Navy submarine, is dispatched on patrol with orders to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike if Radchenko (a Russian ultra-nationalist rebel, take control of a nuclear missile installation) fuels his missiles.

Alabama receives an Emergency Action Message ordering a missile launch against the Russian base. As Alabama prepares to fire, a second radio message is detected before a rebel Russian Akula-class submarine attacks, damaging the boat’s radio and leaving the message incomplete.
With the last confirmed order being to launch, Ramsey decides to proceed.

Iran may be in a similar position, where the field units will continue to follow the last command and control orders, until new orders tell them to stop. And with their command and control obliterated, there may be no way to tell them to stop.

Yep. As I understand it, they decentralized into 31 separate military/governmental units, each autonomous. That has always been the plan.

We knew that, but Trump and Hegseth didn't.

 

[berg80]

Sorry to hear that. The term "alternate universe" seems hyperbolic on its face, but it really isn't that far off.

Thanks.

Nicole Wallace on MSNOW refers to it as Earth 1 and Earth 2. We are experiencing different realities from R's. I see the No Kings protests as largely organic expressions of anger and frustration with the direction trump has taken us. My friend sees them as events orchestrated by liberal financers populated by, his quote, "useful idiots."

If he attended the one I went to he'd have found people of all generations carrying homemade signs, feeling the need to make their disgust known.

 

[jc456]

North Carolina for one. 200,000 people lost their health insurance. More than any other state in the country. The Medicaid cuts are just beginning to be felt. The Trump administration pretty much gave Western North Carolina a screwing when it comes to Hurricane Helene recovery. The cuts to the NIH have devastated the Triangle. And at the State level, well the Republican party is incomplete disarray. Their long time party leader was primaried out, LOL. State still hasn't passed a budget.

total bullshit. you can't prove that at fking all.

 

[jc456]

Thanks.

Nicole Wallace on MSNOW refers to it as Earth 1 and Earth 2. We are experiencing different realities from R's. I see the No Kings protests as largely organic expressions of anger and frustration with the direction trump has taken us. My friend sees them as events orchestrated by liberal financers populated by, his quote, "useful idiots."

If he attended the one I went to he'd have found people of all generations carrying homemade signs, feeling the need to make their disgust known.

you all are on earth 2 for sure. TDS does that.

 

[Godboy]

Iranian leaders are saying "Trump is negotiating with himself" I don't want to believe them, but I've seen no evidence whatsoever that Iran is holding any kind of high (or even midlevel) talks with the US with the idea of ending this war.

With Russia now funneling arms to Iran through the black market as well as sending Iran logistical info. on American naval and troop movements, it looks like Iran is digging in for a long war.

I hope I'm wrong here, but it appears the statements from Iran's leaders make more sense than our own President.

You dont think the US is communicating with Iran? That seems doubtful, but assuming the US decided to completely ghost them, why in the holy f*** would you care? You want us to negotiate a peace deal as we are trying to topple the regime? What sense does THAT make?

 

[Winston]

total bullshit. you can't prove that at fking all.

In North Carolina, enrollment in health coverage under the Affordable Care Act for 2026 dropped by about 22% compared to the year before, the largest percentage decline in the country.

ACA enrollment dropped sharply in North Carolina. More people across the state are expected to lose coverage

In North Carolina, enrollment in health coverage under the Affordable Care Act for 2026 dropped by about 22% compared to the year before, the largest percentage decline in the country. NC Local looked at the latest data.

www.whqr.org

Fact check: Did Trump reject Helene relief for North Carolina?

A widely-shared social media post lacks important context about the Federal Emergency Management Agency's recent decision about disaster relief in North Carolina.

www.wral.com

$7.7M grant to help WNC seniors, rural residents access internet has been terminated

The NTIA notified Land of Sky Regional Council officials Tuesday that a $7.7 million grant for digital equity has been terminated.

wlos.com

Triangle at the epicenter of proposed cuts to federal funding for medical research

Congressional districts that include Durham, Orange and Wake counties stand to lose billions of dollars and thousands of jobs if proposed cuts to funding for the National Institutes of Health become a reality next year.

www.wral.com

 

[jc456]

In North Carolina, enrollment in health coverage under the Affordable Care Act for 2026 dropped by about 22% compared to the year before, the largest percentage decline in the country.

so what?

 

[Muhammed]

Between Iranian loving leftists and now the use of AI to slew any info the conflict is rapidly getting like the one in Ukraine.

If the Iranians said that "the Statue of Liberty is kaput!", the leftists would swear that it was the case.

Many already did. There was an AI video of Iran hitting the Statue of Liberty with a missile on YouTube and the moonbats started yapping away. Droves of them believed it.

 

[Dante]

Iranian leaders are saying "Trump is negotiating with himself" I don't want to believe them, but I've seen no evidence whatsoever that Iran is holding any kind of high (or even midlevel) talks with the US with the idea of ending this war.

With Russia now funneling arms to Iran through the black market as well as sending Iran logistical info. on American naval and troop movements, it looks like Iran is digging in for a long war.

I hope I'm wrong here, but it appears the statements from Iran's leaders make more sense than our own President.

When it comes to Iran vs Donald Trump and lying?

The odds. Bet the odds.

 

[jc456]

Many already did. There was an AI video of Iran hitting the Statue of Liberty with a missile on YouTube and the moonbats started yapping away. Droves of them believed it.

the clowns remain the clowns.

 

[jc456]

TDS is truly something.

 

[BackAgain]

Iranian leaders are saying "Trump is negotiating with himself" I don't want to believe them, but I've seen no evidence whatsoever that Iran is holding any kind of high (or even midlevel) talks with the US with the idea of ending this war.

With Russia now funneling arms to Iran through the black market as well as sending Iran logistical info. on American naval and troop movements, it looks like Iran is digging in for a long war.

I hope I'm wrong here, but it appears the statements from Iran's leaders make more sense than our own President.

I recommend that you think outside of the box of the propaganda you get from the shitlib MSM.

Just because Iran denies something doesn’t mean their denial is honest.

If they are negotiating, they would be using intermediaries. And there’s very little chance that this would get covered by our shitlib media.

Let me concede one point. Yes; it is also possible that it is our President who has lied about the “negotiations” with Iran. But, it is silly to assume that he isn’t doing so just because you don’t see it taking place.

 

[jc456]

I recommend that you think outside of the box of the propaganda you get from the shitlib MSM.

Just because Iran denies something doesn’t mean their denial is honest.

If they are negotiating, they would be using intermediaries. And there’s very little chance that this would get covered by our shitlib media.

Let me concede one point. Yes; it is also possible that it is our President who has lied about the “negotiations” with Iran. But, it is silly to assume that he isn’t doing so just because you don’t see it taking place.

they believe the devil over us at all times.

 

[jc456]

Let me concede one point. Yes; it is also possible that it is our President who has lied about the “negotiations” with Iran. But, it is silly to assume that he isn’t doing so just because you don’t see it taking place.

yep^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[citygator]

well you do know the leaders were blowed up sir, right? So who do you suppose he's talking to? Would he know or you?

Boy who cried wolf. Dipshit in Chief has claimed to be negotiating all along for weeks... now he has another unnamed double secret leader he is secretly talking to which the current Iranian leaders say is bullshit. Doesnt add up my man. Plus he is back to threatening to blow shit up. Total bullshit from him.


Trump Issues Fresh Threat to Iranian Energy Sites

 

[Independent thinker]

I think trump is on shaky ground right now

The mass demonstrations in the streets have not happened and that is troubling

Trump definitely does not want to put US boots on the ground but may have to do so

Wasn't too long ago that tens of thousands were in Iran's streets and then Iran rounded a lot of them up for execution and Iranians are now afraid that if they stand up now, the regime won't change and they will all be executed as well.

 

[postman]

You want us to negotiate a peace deal as we are trying to topple the regime? What sense does THAT make?

You can't topple a regime from the air.

 

[Godboy]

You can't topple a regime from the air.

You soften them up from the air. Eventually there WILL be a ground invasion. It will likely happen very soon.