Is this really what you voted for?

[berg80]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

 

[sparky]

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

because that is not what's happening here, and your NYT article is misleading and disingenuous Berg

~S~

 

[Meathead]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

Yup

 

[Hafar1014]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

Obama care is a bottomless pit that will always need more money. Democrats demand illegals be put back on Medicaid, and NPR and PBS be funded. This is all about paying off their supporters. For this they shut down the government. Good luck defending that.

Doom and gloom its a disaster claims by democrats dont work anymore.

 

[Hafar1014]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

Obama care is a bottomless pit that will always need more money. Democrats demand illegals be put back on Medicaid, and NPR and PBS be funded. This is all about paying off their supporters. For this they shut down the government. Good luck defending that.

Doom and gloom its a disaster claims by democrats dont work anymore.

 

[Mac1958]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

They're thrilled. The more carnage, the better.

They're victims and they want revenge at any cost.

I don't think rest of us, across the political spectrum, have a full understanding of the rage under which these people are operating.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The democrats threw a fit cause they didnt get their way and you blame the republicans? Figures.

 

[Cellblock2429]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

/----/ "unjustified presence of troops on US city streets,"
Hell yeah, it's what I voted for.
I stopped reading at your first biased, slanted opinion piece. Who are you to say the troops are unjustified? Gov. Hochul sent troops into the NYC subway to control runaway crime, and it worked. President Trump sent troops into Washington DC to control crime, and it worked. He's sending troops to protect citizens because the Blue State governors and mayors refuse to fix the crime problem and deny what is going on. And you know the citizens of DC were thanking the troops for being there.

List​

The National Guard has been deployed to cities in the United States for various reasons, including civil unrest, natural disasters, and to maintain order. Here is a list of instances where the National Guard has been deployed to cities:

• Kent State Protests (1970): Ohio National Guard members fired shots into a large crowd of student activists, resulting in four students being killed and nine injured.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=61af...LU5hdGlvbmFsLUd1YXJkLUJlZW4tRGVwbG95ZWQ&ntb=1
• George Floyd Protests (2020): More than 30 states deployed U.S. National Guard units to assist local law enforcement, with over 30,000 National Guard members reporting for duty.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=61af...LU5hdGlvbmFsLUd1YXJkLUJlZW4tRGVwbG95ZWQ&ntb=1
• Los Angeles Immigration Protests (2025): U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the deployment of National Guard troops to Los Angeles to quell protests against immigration raids.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=61af...LU5hdGlvbmFsLUd1YXJkLUJlZW4tRGVwbG95ZWQ&ntb=1
• Washington, D.C. Crime Concerns (2025): President Trump moved forward with deploying National Guard troops to manage public safety in Washington, D.C.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=4b06...WxfZm9yY2VzX2luX3RoZV9Vbml0ZWRfU3RhdGVz&ntb=1
• Texas and Missouri Protests (2025): Governor Greg Abbott called for National Guard members to convene in Texas, and Missouri Governor Mike Kehoe activated local National Guard in what he says is a proactive approach to protests.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=77b7...WQtbmF0aW9uYWwtZ3VhcmQvZXJpY2EtdGhvbWFz&ntb=1
  
  These deployments reflect the complex and often controversial use of military forces in domestic affairs. Each deployment is a response to specific circumstances and can lead to significant public debate and legal challenges.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=61af...LU5hdGlvbmFsLUd1YXJkLUJlZW4tRGVwbG95ZWQ&ntb=1
  And don't forget JFK sent troops down south to enforce desegregation.

 

[sparky]

Stop the lies.......~S~

 

[SweetTea]

It's a question that could be asked about a variety of issues from the unjustified presence of troops on US city streets, to crypto currency profiteering, to pardons of J6 violent criminals, the examples are too numerous to list. Here's one pertaining to the shutdown.

These 6 Charts Explain Why Democrats Shut Down the Government​

All the political skirmishing around the looming government shutdown has obscured the critical reason for it in the first place: Republicans have essentially stopped saying they want to repeal Obamacare, but quietly, they are doing exactly that.

Over the past nine months, Republicans have gone a long way toward dismantling key Obamacare provisions under the misleading guise of reforming or improving our health care system. As a result, more than 20 million Americans face higher insurance premiums next year. And almost 14 million Americans could lose their health insurance altogether over the next decade — an estimated 3.3 million in 2026 alone.

That’s more than 70 percent of those who gained coverage since Obamacare went into effect.

You may be forgiven for missing this headline. There wasn’t one. In 2016, Donald Trump ran on a promise to abolish the program and kept up his crusade throughout his first term, only to have the effort deep-sixed by Senator John McCain. This time around, Mr. Trump has rarely — if ever — mentioned the Affordable Care Act by name. Nor have his fellow Republicans.

But they never stopped trying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

Maybe a trump voter could explain why increasing health insurance premiums and taking away coverage for millions is such a priority? Especially in light of there being no replacement plan for the ACA.

They are letting the COVID era additional tax credits for the ACA expire. We aren’t in COVID anymore. Duh.

 

[berg80]

because that is not what's happening here, and your NYT article is misleading and disingenuous Berg

~S~

Maybe you could explain what's wrong about it?

 

[berg80]

They're thrilled. The more carnage, the better.

They're victims and they want revenge at any cost.

I don't think rest of us, across the political spectrum, have a full understanding of the rage under which these people are operating.

I guess they see themselves as victims. But victims of what?

 

[berg80]

They are letting the COVID era additional tax credits for the ACA expire. We aren’t in COVID anymore. Duh.

That is factually incorrect. But thanks, now I know the kinds of lies right wing media has been spewing.

For the sake of argument let's say it's true. How does it help people who are going to have to pay an enormously higher premium?

 

[Hafar1014]

Maybe you could explain what's wrong about it?

Good luck getting an actual thought from a democrat

 

[Mac1958]

I guess they see themselves as victims. But victims of what?

Well, they're miserable, and there are voices they trust. So they just trust those voices to be honest with them about who has made them such victims.

Look at all the farmers who are suffering after voting for him. They're so deep in the ideology that they're not making the connection.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems lost, so just go F yourselves to infinity while we run the country losers.

 

[Ringo]

Trump hasn’t been met with real opposition by the Democrats because the party quietly agrees with his agenda and serves the same corporate interests as the GOP. This is why we need an actual left party.

 

[SweetTea]

That is factually incorrect. But thanks, now I know the kinds of lies right wing media has been spewing.

No, it is factually correct. The enhanced credits that were expanded under Biden’s ARPA and the Inflation Reduction Act are set to expire. Republicans don’t want to extend those enhanced credits.

 

[AntonToo]

Stop the lies.......~S~

You don’t stop the lies by saying “stop the lies”, you do it by refuting what is said.

Which you haven’t.

 

[BluesLegend]

No, it is factually correct. The enhanced credits that were expanded under Biden’s ARPA and the Inflation Reduction Act are set to expire. Republicans don’t want to extend those enhanced credits.

Scheming Democrats bloated spending under the cover of covid and now want that spending made permanent. It largely funds benefits for their army of illegals, on the backs of U.S. taxpayers.

Remember, Democrats are traitors.