Is there such a thing as an Independent Federal Agency?

[CrusaderFrank]

The first case of Trump’s second term reaches the high court

Trump Administration seeks to fire an individual working at an “Independent Federal Agency”

A lower court ruled that, Article II notwithstanding, POTUS does not have the ability to remove someone who works for an imaginary “Independent Federal Agency”

This case is headed to SCOTUS

On what basis do “Independent Federal Agencies” exist in the first place?

Don’t they all fall under Article II?

Are there “Independent Congressional Agencies” or “Independent Judiciary Agencies” that are not under the purview of their respective body?

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

 

[kyzr]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.
His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.
We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

1. Trump-45 reeled in the CFPB after Pocohantas put them under the Federal Reserve to keep them "independent"
2. The USSC said the CFPB is still under the president, i.e. there are no "independent" agencies
3. Too fucking bad the "deep state" doesn't understand that elections have consequences

 

[Mac1958]

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

1. Trump-45 reeled in the CFPB after Pocohantas put them under the Federal Reserve to keep them "independent"
2. The USSC said the CFPB is still under the president, i.e. there are no "independent" agencies
3. Too fucking bad the "deep state" doesn't understand that elections have consequences

And there ya go.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

Rather than rant about fascism, please point out where the Constitution allows for “Independent Federal Agencies”

 

[Mac1958]

Rather than rant about fascism, please point out where the Constitution allows for “Independent Federal Agencies”

Nowhere.

Not the point, of course, but I'm done trying with you people.

You are what you are.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nowhere.

Not the point, of course, but I'm done trying with you people.

You are what you are.

So the President is in charge of the Executive Branch, and this troubles you?

 

[kyzr]

Nowhere.
Not the point, of course, but I'm done trying with you people.
You are what you are.

So you are wrong and we are correct, QED. That was an easy debate.

 

[Mac1958]

I'll remain hopeful that, at some point, they'll just recognize and admit what they are.

But it will have to happen on their own time frame.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I'll remain hopeful that, at some point, they'll just recognize and admit what they are.

But it will have to happen on their own time frame.

You offer NOTHING but GASLIGHT PLATITUDES.
Why don't you go ahead and SAY what you feel "WHAT WE ARE".

To the topic, there is no Constitutional "independent federal agency" under then Executive branch that does not serve the president. FULL STOP.

 

[1srelluc]

Scroll down to examples.....The number of them is mind boggling....Maybe some are need but I suspect most are not.

Independent agencies of the United States federal government - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Check this shit out:

• The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) gathers foreign intelligence and provides national security assessments to policymakers in the United States. It acts as the primary human intelligence provider for the federal government. It is one of the principal members of the Intelligence Community, which is overseen by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), which is itself an independent agency.

It makes me wonder if some of them are not "Featherbed Agencies" that really act as conduits to funnel money back to politicians or their "causes".

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

Naaaahh. He’s just weeding out those with the mental disease of leftism.

 

[Harry Dresden]

the post office is pretty independent federal agency....

 

[SweetTea]

I'll remain hopeful that, at some point, they'll just recognize and admit what they are.

But it will have to happen on their own time frame.

What are we? Do you suddenly believe that Republicans want the federal government to control them despite years of policies that promote just the opposite? Do you suddenly believe that the Democratic Party is not for more federal government intervention despite years of policies that promote just that?

The Democrats squash free speech, want tighter gun control and more federal government assistance programs and thus more dependency and they are AGAINST gutting obvious corruption and unbelievable inefficiency in our federal agencies and it is Republicans that want to take control. I can’t believe the utter nonsense people will accept in the name of being anti-Trump everything.

 

[Independent thinker]

The first case of Trump’s second term reaches the high court

Trump Administration seeks to fire an individual working at an “Independent Federal Agency”

A lower court ruled that, Article II notwithstanding, POTUS does not have the ability to remove someone who works for an imaginary “Independent Federal Agency”

This case is headed to SCOTUS

On what basis do “Independent Federal Agencies” exist in the first place?

Don’t they all fall under Article II?

Are there “Independent Congressional Agencies” or “Independent Judiciary Agencies” that are not under the purview of their respective body?

Good question. Someone somewhere gave them the job, which means someone somewhere should be able to fire them.

 

[JWBooth]

If it receives tax monies it isn’t independent.

 

[Doc7505]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

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Read the following:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C2-3-6/ALDE_00000012/

"Congress’s authority to establish offices is limited by the terms of the Appointments Clause. The structure of federal agencies must comply with the requirement that the President appoint officers, subject to Senate confirmation, although the appointment of inferior officers may rest with the President alone, department heads, or the courts.​

<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C2-3-6/ALDE_00000012/#ALDF_00018680">8</a> ​

More broadly, the Supreme Court has made clear that the Constitution imposes important limits on Congress’s ability to influence or control the actions of officers once they are appointed. Likewise, it is widely believed that the President must retain a certain amount of independent discretion in selecting officers that Congress may not impede. These principles ensure that the President may fulfill his constitutional duty under Article II to take [c]are that the laws are faithfully executed.​

<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C2-3-6/ALDE_00000012/#ALDF_00018681">9</a>"​

 

[BluesLegend]

The first case of Trump’s second term reaches the high court

Trump Administration seeks to fire an individual working at an “Independent Federal Agency”

A lower court ruled that, Article II notwithstanding, POTUS does not have the ability to remove someone who works for an imaginary “Independent Federal Agency”

This case is headed to SCOTUS

On what basis do “Independent Federal Agencies” exist in the first place?

Don’t they all fall under Article II?

Are there “Independent Congressional Agencies” or “Independent Judiciary Agencies” that are not under the purview of their respective body?

The NPR tards were all over this the other day. Claiming government workers are protected from getting fired because past presidents fired everyone and handed out the government jobs as payment for campaign donations and support.

But Democrats have corrupted government into just that, a kickback scheme to sell government jobs for money, votes, bribes and kickbacks. Then the next administration can't trim the fat and their hack Dem shill is embedded like a tick. BLATANTLY defies and undermines the executive branch on behalf of the Democrats.

So things have swung too far the other direction. Dems will hate the SCOTUS decision on this. <<< BOOKMARK THIS

 

[Oddball]

The first case of Trump’s second term reaches the high court

Trump Administration seeks to fire an individual working at an “Independent Federal Agency”

A lower court ruled that, Article II notwithstanding, POTUS does not have the ability to remove someone who works for an imaginary “Independent Federal Agency”

This case is headed to SCOTUS

On what basis do “Independent Federal Agencies” exist in the first place?

Don’t they all fall under Article II?

Are there “Independent Congressional Agencies” or “Independent Judiciary Agencies” that are not under the purview of their respective body?

Rule of thumb: the created cannot ever be greater than the creator.

The "independent agency" trope is a shitlib talking point with no intellectual validity.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes, Trump is going after anything that has been independent and is consolidating power and control at the top.

His enablers and his flock will support every part of this. I'm not sure why, but I have my guesses.

We're literally in a neofascist moment. How does America respond?

Trump, by an Executive Order, should start an Independent Judiciary Agency filled with his appointees who can never be fired and tasked with reviewing the actions and opinions of the Judiciary