Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

[progressive hunter]

I hadn't given BF or Sasquatch much thought. What caught my eye was the FBI was involved and so read the story. Some people found additional evidence in the past and the FBI had analyzed it. That was the story. For you to jump to such silly conclusions about me tells me you aren't scientific nor understand collecting the evidence. For example, you recognize overwhelming evidence of long time from radiometric dating, but do not present any. Instead, you explain it by reasoning what authority and smarter people than you have told you. That doesn't give me much confidence in your argument because I am smarter than you and can argue against what your authority and smarter people have told you.

I am done with this debate. The earth is billions of years old, and anybody who doesn’t think so is a Christian idiot. See ya.

the poor little bigot cant prove anything so he runs to the bathroom for some personal time,,,

its OK we still loath you,,,

There is more evidence that Jesus took it in the ass from the 12 disciples (and liked it) than the earth is 6000 years old.

I never said it was 6K old,,,

and whats the obsession with anal sex???

Ask Jesus, apparently he and John were into it.
Was Jesus gay? Probably | Paul Oestreicher
The idea that he had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene is the stuff of fiction, based on no biblical evidence. The evidence, on the other hand, that he may have been what we today call gay is very strong.

So how old do you believe the earth to be?

I dont know how old it is and neither do you or any one else,,,

 

[Indeependent]

sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,

I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.

are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???

You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

 

[progressive hunter]

I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.

are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???

You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

 

[WinterBorn]

Then why, if all the mountains rose during or after the Great Flood, are there no higher animals in the rock formations on Everest?

The topology was different in the past before Noah's Flood. The mountains rose from the bottom of the sea floor and also there was an equal, but separate opposite force, to create the depth of oceans we have today.

And the mountains rose so fast that there were no terrestrial animals fossilized? Interesting.

And, despite much exploration and study of the oceans, not one single terrestrial animal fossil has been found in the ocean depths? I understand that the areas are remote and hard to study. But not one fossilized bone?

dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

 

[progressive hunter]

The topology was different in the past before Noah's Flood. The mountains rose from the bottom of the sea floor and also there was an equal, but separate opposite force, to create the depth of oceans we have today.

And the mountains rose so fast that there were no terrestrial animals fossilized? Interesting.

And, despite much exploration and study of the oceans, not one single terrestrial animal fossil has been found in the ocean depths? I understand that the areas are remote and hard to study. But not one fossilized bone?

dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

thats not what I said,,,

there are no fossils that show transition,,,

transition is a speculation placed on them by people that just cant know for sure,,,

 

[Indeependent]

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.

are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???

You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

 

[progressive hunter]

are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???

You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

 

[WinterBorn]

And the mountains rose so fast that there were no terrestrial animals fossilized? Interesting.

And, despite much exploration and study of the oceans, not one single terrestrial animal fossil has been found in the ocean depths? I understand that the areas are remote and hard to study. But not one fossilized bone?

dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

thats not what I said,,,

there are no fossils that show transition,,,

transition is a speculation placed on them by people that just cant know for sure,,,

I said that no fossils of large terrestrial animals had even been found in the ocean depths. To which you replied with a link about a flooded cave. I said there was a difference between a flooded cave and the ocean. YOur reply was "since when has the entire ocean been excavated". What else could you have meant but that there may be large terrestrial fossils in the strata below the oceans, but we just haven't found them.

You ridicule evolution because of a lack of evidence, and yet the Great Flood mythology depends on the same lack of evidence.

 

[rightwinger]

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

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Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Wow
Quite a theory

It shows no understanding of evolutionary theory. No, we did not descend from monkeys. We are evolving, but the process is so slow, it goes unnoticed

I have seen Jurassic Park. I would love to have seen Noah’s dinosaurs on the Ark.

 

[Indeependent]

You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

Your claim specifically targeted the Bible.
If you claimed “cultures”, I wouldn’t have contested.

 

[Indeependent]

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Wow
Quite a theory

It shows no understanding of evolutionary theory. No, we did not descend from monkeys. We are evolving, but the process is so slow, it goes unnoticed

I have seen Jurassic Park. I would love to have seen Noah’s dinosaurs on the Ark.

I would have loved to see the Beatles in the Ark.

 

[progressive hunter]

dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

thats not what I said,,,

there are no fossils that show transition,,,

transition is a speculation placed on them by people that just cant know for sure,,,

I said that no fossils of large terrestrial animals had even been found in the ocean depths. To which you replied with a link about a flooded cave. I said there was a difference between a flooded cave and the ocean. YOur reply was "since when has the entire ocean been excavated". What else could you have meant but that there may be large terrestrial fossils in the strata below the oceans, but we just haven't found them.

You ridicule evolution because of a lack of evidence, and yet the Great Flood mythology depends on the same lack of evidence.

who are you to tell me what I meant???

and you are correct,,
but those that go by the bible version dont teach it as fact using tax payer money and openly say its based on faith,,,

as for me its just at this point I dont know and am still looking for the truth

 

[WinterBorn]

The Great Flood relies on two phenomenon to be possible. First, the huge water vapor canopy. And second, that there were huge reservoirs of water under the ground.

There is not one shred of evidence for either. ID'ers mock evolution because they say there are gaps in the knowledge. The Great Flood myth absolutely depends on 2 things that have no evidence at all.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

thats not what I said,,,

there are no fossils that show transition,,,

transition is a speculation placed on them by people that just cant know for sure,,,

I said that no fossils of large terrestrial animals had even been found in the ocean depths. To which you replied with a link about a flooded cave. I said there was a difference between a flooded cave and the ocean. YOur reply was "since when has the entire ocean been excavated". What else could you have meant but that there may be large terrestrial fossils in the strata below the oceans, but we just haven't found them.

You ridicule evolution because of a lack of evidence, and yet the Great Flood mythology depends on the same lack of evidence.

who are you to tell me what I meant???

and you are correct,,
but those that go by the bible version dont teach it as fact using tax payer money and openly say its based on faith,,,

as for me its just at this point I dont know and am still looking for the truth

If I am mistaken about what you meant, feel free to clarify it. I explained what we said, and my version seems sound.

 

[progressive hunter]

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

Your claim specifically targeted the Bible.
If you claimed “cultures”, I wouldn’t have contested.

no it was your claim that was about the bible,,,I just pointed out that the word dino didnt exist and they did use dragon and behemoth in its place,,,

and since when did fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

 

[progressive hunter]

DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

thats not what I said,,,

there are no fossils that show transition,,,

transition is a speculation placed on them by people that just cant know for sure,,,

I said that no fossils of large terrestrial animals had even been found in the ocean depths. To which you replied with a link about a flooded cave. I said there was a difference between a flooded cave and the ocean. YOur reply was "since when has the entire ocean been excavated". What else could you have meant but that there may be large terrestrial fossils in the strata below the oceans, but we just haven't found them.

You ridicule evolution because of a lack of evidence, and yet the Great Flood mythology depends on the same lack of evidence.

who are you to tell me what I meant???

and you are correct,,
but those that go by the bible version dont teach it as fact using tax payer money and openly say its based on faith,,,

as for me its just at this point I dont know and am still looking for the truth

If I am mistaken about what you meant, feel free to clarify it. I explained what we said, and my version seems sound.

I did tell you,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

The Great Flood relies on two phenomenon to be possible. First, the huge water vapor canopy. And second, that there were huge reservoirs of water under the ground.

There is not one shred of evidence for either. ID'ers mock evolution because they say there are gaps in the knowledge. The Great Flood myth absolutely depends on 2 things that have no evidence at all.

Massive 'ocean' discovered towards Earth's core

 

[Indeependent]

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

Your claim specifically targeted the Bible.
If you claimed “cultures”, I wouldn’t have contested.

no it was your claim that was about the bible,,,I just pointed out that the word dino didnt exist and they did use dragon and behemoth in its place,,,

and since when did fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

Which verse mentions legs?
Stingrays have tails.

 

[progressive hunter]

so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???

A behemoth (large fish) is not a dragon (mythical flying creature).
There is no mention of dragons in Jewish Scripture.
The NT, maybe.
But the NT is filled with Greek and Roman myth culture.

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

Your claim specifically targeted the Bible.
If you claimed “cultures”, I wouldn’t have contested.

that was your claim,,,I just broadened the discussion for deeper look into the topic,,,

the truth is I dont like using the bible exclusively and more so as a writtings of the time and not for the god part,,,

its easier to leave god out of it and go with facts

 

[progressive hunter]

so fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

and when did I claim jewish scripture???

If you subscribe to the mistranslation of a word based on Roman Catholic Church paintings, fine.
I don’t subscribe to such.

why do you limit it to just those???

there are others all over the world from most ancient cultures,,,

Your claim specifically targeted the Bible.
If you claimed “cultures”, I wouldn’t have contested.

no it was your claim that was about the bible,,,I just pointed out that the word dino didnt exist and they did use dragon and behemoth in its place,,,

and since when did fish have legs and a tail like a cedar???

Which verse mentions legs?
Stingrays have tails.

eats grass like an ox so its seems grass eaters need to get to the grass to eat it,,,so its a speculation,,,


'and is its tail like a cedar??? and is it considered a fish??