Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Are secular scientists prone to exaggeration in support of accepted theories?

  • Yes, at least on occasion.

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • No, never. They are highly respected and above tweaking data... They are above suspicion.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
Then why, if all the mountains rose during or after the Great Flood, are there no higher animals in the rock formations on Everest?


why would there be???

if it was the bottom of the ocean before it rose then why would a land animal be on it???


or it could be that not every rock on the mountain has been opened yet,,,

truth is no one knows what happened

So it rose to 29,000 feet above sea level before any land animal went there? Okey dokey.

if it rose rapidly then thats a possibility,,,and remember they have to get covered to become fossils
the only way to know is to tear it down and search every rock,,,

But there have been thousands of fossils found, and not one single higher animal.
At what temperature do bones dissolve?
What is the temperature of the subterranean waters?

At about the same temperature as the invertebrates that have been found.

The temperature would depend on the depth, obviously.
 
Then why, if all the mountains rose during or after the Great Flood, are there no higher animals in the rock formations on Everest?

The topology was different in the past before Noah's Flood. The mountains rose from the bottom of the sea floor and also there was an equal, but separate opposite force, to create the depth of oceans we have today.

And the mountains rose so fast that there were no terrestrial animals fossilized? Interesting.

And, despite much exploration and study of the oceans, not one single terrestrial animal fossil has been found in the ocean depths? I understand that the areas are remote and hard to study. But not one fossilized bone?


dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.
 
The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.


the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
 
Then why, if all the mountains rose during or after the Great Flood, are there no higher animals in the rock formations on Everest?

The topology was different in the past before Noah's Flood. The mountains rose from the bottom of the sea floor and also there was an equal, but separate opposite force, to create the depth of oceans we have today.

And the mountains rose so fast that there were no terrestrial animals fossilized? Interesting.

And, despite much exploration and study of the oceans, not one single terrestrial animal fossil has been found in the ocean depths? I understand that the areas are remote and hard to study. But not one fossilized bone?


dont be so quick there jr,,,

Divers discover underwater graveyard of extinct giants - CNN

There is a difference between oceans and flooded caves.



DUH!!!!

and since when has the entire ocean been excavated???
 
View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.


the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.
 
Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.


the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
 
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.


the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
I’ll give Google a shot.
 
Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.


the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.

The History of Dragons in Art | Muddy Colors
 
Actually, we can observe long periods of time. The Hubble telescope has allowed an unprecedented look back in time at very distant galaxies.

How do ID’iot creationists explain how light travels?

It just so happens I worked for the company that built the Hubble telescope. My office was right next to it for a time according to rumors. What is of significance in this the Hubble-Lemaitre law, especially the Hubble constant.
  1. Objects observed in deep space—extragalactic space, 10 megaparsecs (Mpc) or more—are found to have a redshift, interpreted as a relative velocity away from Earth;
  2. This Doppler shift-measured velocity of various galaxies receding from the Earth is approximately proportional to their distance from the Earth for galaxies up to a few hundred megaparsecs away.
Hubble's law - Wikipedia

The short answer w/o the math is that this so-called constant has changed over time. No one knows it's exactness. Thus, what you claim we are seeing via Hubble's telescope as long time due to redshifts may not be correct. A different Hubble constant also allows for a young universe. Note, I'm not arguing the universe isn't expanding. It is still expanding since the beginning.
 
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.

the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.

The History of Dragons in Art | Muddy Colors

Google “Dragons in the Bible”...
The word “Tah-nihm” (Tah-née-nihm plural), which means Hugh fish, is mistranslated as dragon.

So much for the veracity of the King James Version.
 
the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.
 
the words dinosaur didnt exist when they wrote it,,,
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.

The History of Dragons in Art | Muddy Colors

Google “Dragons in the Bible”...
The word “Tah-nihm” (Tah-née-nihm plural), which means Hugh fish, is mistranslated as dragon.

So much for the veracity of the King James Version.


what no link???
 
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.

The History of Dragons in Art | Muddy Colors

Google “Dragons in the Bible”...
The word “Tah-nihm” (Tah-née-nihm plural), which means Hugh fish, is mistranslated as dragon.

So much for the veracity of the King James Version.


what no link???
Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
 
The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.

Science is not unlike forensics in that it can examine evidence recreate events in the past. So yes, the various fields of biology, chemistry, paleontology, etc, actually can tell us about the earth 6,000 years ago.


Taking that a step further, nobody has ever been able to say with any degree of certainty that any words in any of the variously asserted holy texts are of a Divine origin. I accept that the scribes and translators can make errors, and in fact did. I dont see any divine intervention in the Torah, KJV or the NIV nor any translation. I acknowledge that one of many supreme beings allowed his "word" to be corrupted by the fallibility of man, and I know you will not see the fallacy of proffering such an argument.
 
The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Do you any evidence of an Ark, dinosaurs on an Ark, a global flood 6,000 years ago?

How do you explain your complete lack of supportable comments?
Noach May have chopped up the ark to build homes.
There is not one mention of dinosaurs in the Torah.
Neither you nor I have the educational background to know anything about what happened 6,000 years ago.

Science is not unlike forensics in that it can examine evidence recreate events in the past. So yes, the various fields of biology, chemistry, paleontology, etc, actually can tell us about the earth 6,000 years ago.


Taking that a step further, nobody has ever been able to say with any degree of certainty that any words in any of the variously asserted holy texts are of a Divine origin. I accept that the scribes and translators can make errors, and in fact did. I dont see any divine intervention in the Torah, KJV or the NIV nor any translation. I acknowledge that one of many supreme beings allowed his "word" to be corrupted by the fallibility of man, and I know you will not see the fallacy of proffering such an argument.
Excellent...
Find me a copy of a Torah scroll anywhere on earth that doesn’t exactly duplicate every other scroll that is used even in a Reformed Synagogue.
I’ll wait.
 
What dinosaurs?
Apparently, their existence was not relevant enough to mention.


they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.


are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???
 
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It is really hard to know how to answer this. It is like you throw stuff at a wall and hope something makes sense.

Your problem comes from your 'knowing' that the Earth is young so anything you see must be the result of recent (<6,000 years) activity. If you actually looked at the world without the blinders imposed by YEC, you'd see what geologists have learned through hundreds of years of study. Continents move, mountains rise and are worn down and oceans are created and destroyed. None of these can happen in a few thousand years but they are all going on today just as they always have.

It's impossible to answer for you because the problem is you can't demonstrate what happens in millions of years, even one million year. But that's beside the point when I can demonstrate how Portland cement can harden under water. I also can show that this cement can bend and fold by running water. I can show an older driveway with it to show the concrete becomes brittle, has developed cracks in it, and breaks into smaller rocks. I can show that it doesn't bend or fold as you claim, but it shows what I claim.

All you have to show is the cement liquefying again, but that's impossible as it's like unbaking a cake. This chemical reaction cannot be reversed.
 
they did use the word dragons and behemoth though,,,
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.


are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???
You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.
 
If you you even begin to believe that Bigfoot could exist, then you are beyond hope. There is there is no Bigfoot and anybody who hasn’t come to that conclusion should never be trusted. The fact that you can’t come to that conclusion tells me all I need to know. You’re not a scientific thinker, and that’s ok. You are somebody who wants to believe, but science is not about wanting to believe. It’s about facts, data, research, testing and skepticism.

I hadn't given BF or Sasquatch much thought. What caught my eye was the FBI was involved and so read the story. Some people found additional evidence in the past and the FBI had analyzed it. That was the story. For you to jump to such silly conclusions about me tells me you aren't scientific nor understand collecting the evidence. For example, you recognize overwhelming evidence of long time from radiometric dating, but do not present any. Instead, you explain it by reasoning what authority and smarter people than you have told you. That doesn't give me much confidence in your argument because I am smarter than you and can argue against what your authority and smarter people have told you.

I am done with this debate. The earth is billions of years old, and anybody who doesn’t think so is a Christian idiot. See ya.



the poor little bigot cant prove anything so he runs to the bathroom for some personal time,,,

its OK we still loath you,,,

There is more evidence that Jesus took it in the ass from the 12 disciples (and liked it) than the earth is 6000 years old.


I never said it was 6K old,,,

and whats the obsession with anal sex???

Ask Jesus, apparently he and John were into it.
Was Jesus gay? Probably | Paul Oestreicher
The idea that he had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene is the stuff of fiction, based on no biblical evidence. The evidence, on the other hand, that he may have been what we today call gay is very strong.

So how old do you believe the earth to be?
 
The Behemoth is not a land dweller.
The word for dragon is believed to be an alligator.


sorry if I dont take your word for it,,
so do ya got a link???

because most dragon pictures say different,
I’ll give Google a shot.

I use Psalms 74 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
as a reference as it’s the best in terms of side by side original Hebrew and supposed English interpretation.
And yes, I speak Hebrew.
That’s why I never saw the work Dragon.


are you wanting me to go through every page of this for you???
You made a claim.
Back it up.
I supplied the lie and the ability to expose it.
Now you’re allowing your ideology to make you intellectually dishonest.


so the word dragon and behemoth are not in the bible???
 

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