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Is there a vaccine expert in the house who can answer my question about vaccines?

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
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best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

I think it is the fact, that you are the one that is mis-informed and you need to learn to do better research.
Lol, no.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...
"Vaccine makers are immune..." No, they aren't. There is a whole government department for that.

"The checkered past of the..." As far as I'm aware they don't have a checkered past.

"The ugly history of attempts to make Coronavirus vaccines". The whole one year history is ugly?

It's all a buncha nonsense.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...

Any source to you that is not from the MSM or the lying WHO and lying CDC seems to be invalid to you. That is not very good research on your part. And on top of that here is some more information on your lying buddies.

Laboratories in US can’t find Covid-19 in 1500 positive tests
~ excerpts ~

Apr 15, 2021 · A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B.
...
‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’
...
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’

The CDC is a wholly owned subsidiary of big pharma, yet some Americans really believe it’s out to help all Americans and is an honest actor.

The CDC’s #1 job is to protect the nation from deadly pandemics. Obviously, it has failed. Time to terminate it and start anew.





I know...I know...terminating a government agency is impossible. They live forever.

That's true.. Too many high level NIH/CDC employees holding PATENTS in their names that make money for pharma. Among other problems.

But the horrible BIGGER PICTURE is that this "conflict of missions" applies to MOST EVERY Govt agency.. For instance, Dept of Ag mission is to PROMOTE American agriculture, but it's also supposed to RESTRAIN American agriculture from violations of political policy and safety laws..

Same with the FAA -- they are both the COPS and the marketeers for aviation.. And the Dept of COMMERCE is full gonzo -- advocacy for American business abroad..

It's "systemic" collusion.. To use a popular phrase...
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...
"Vaccine makers are immune..." No, they aren't. There is a whole government department for that.

"The checkered past of the..." As far as I'm aware they don't have a checkered past.

"The ugly history of attempts to make Coronavirus vaccines". The whole one year history is ugly?

It's all a buncha nonsense.

When I said "get in the game" -- I didn't mean accuse ME of stuff I never said... LOL... You just scored a point for the other side... :disbelief:

Get the right post to reply... LOL
 

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Any source to you that is not from the MSM or the lying WHO and lying CDC seems to be invalid to you. That is not very good research on your part. And on top of that here is some more information on your lying buddies.


You live in a small world.. I abhor those sources as much as you do.; In the end, all those govt science operations are IRRELEVANT.. I DEPEND on the MILLIONS of private practitioners and experts that work IN A LAB or clinical setting every day.. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS I QUOTE..

What's this? 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. (The Hadwen Documents) - In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don`t Get Stuck, Hannah Allen) - In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures.

Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555) - In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organization after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990) - In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK) See the complete list here;


The Hadwen Documents:


Simple answers to simple questions. In 1880s the prevailing method of SPox vax was "arm to arm" transfers which offered LOW to Moderate immunity and didn't last long. Wasn't a TRUE high immunity vax until 10 or 15 years later. In the meantime the 19th century version of YOU being a rabid ANTI vaxxer was breaking out in Europe because of the RISKS of "arm to arm transfers" which was REAL -- These included risks of transferring other communicable diseases such as syphillis.. SO THOSE anti-vax rebel had a point,. You not so much.. And in FACT -- with the introduction of TRUE LONG LASTING vaccines, SmallPox was virtually eliminated in England by the beginning of the 19th century..

Now YOU could have figured this out by exercising some effort and critical thinking. But instead, you're a collection of random factoids and shit out of context. Here's some links...


1796 - Edward Jenner successfully tests the idea that cowpox protects against smallpox

1805 - First attempt at compulsory vaccination, in Italy, fails

1820 - Smallpox deaths in London fall significantly

1840 - Vaccination Act makes vaccinations free

1853 - New Vaccination Act makes vaccination compulsory in the first three months of a child's life

1867 - Vaccinations compulsory for all children below 14

1869 - Leicester Anti-Vaccination League founded

1885 - Mass protest held in Leicester

1898 - Vaccination Act introduces "conscientious objection" clause

Following chart from ---
Researchers track and analyze smallpox epidemics over three centuries (medicalxpress.com)


4-learningfrom.jpg


Bottom line is here THoth -- As you see in the chart -- A TRUE VACCINE for Spox resulted in VIRTUAL ERADICATION of SmallPox in England by 1900.. And to BOOT those anti-vax Brits STILL GOT govt clearance to OPT OUT of mandatory vax orders in 1898..

See Thoth -- we'll do this with the SAME result --- with or without you...


There is no scientific evidence to show that vaccines are safe and effective, but we do know that after the introduction of vaccines, the death rates attributed to these diseases plummeted. But there is an inherent problem with this logic.


Since correlation does not imply or promise causation, the disappearance of these diseases could be attributed to better hygiene, improved sanitation, as well as a number of other technological advances, all of which came to the scene at the same time as vaccines.

All of a sudden we had flushing toilets and clean running water. We became aware of the importance of nutrition and food sanitation. We covered cesspools and cleaned up the stables and the streets. Better technology, hygiene, and sanitation allowed us to live more salubrious lives, free of dis-ease.

These changes were made well before vaccines were introduced and as a result death rates for these diseases dropped significantly. It just so happens that after these vaccines were introduced, they continued to drop.


Around the same time that vaccines were hailed as the magical bullet for health, we also decided to stop feeding our children ‘swill milk‘, or milk that came from cows that were fed ‘swill’, which a waste product of alcohol distilleries. They used to park CAFO dairy farms next to distilleries. These disillusioned dairy farmers would feed their cows this toxic sludge that’s left over from making booze in an attempt to save some cash on cattle feed. We have moved away from this idiotic practice, but have still not learned our lesson, as today’s cows are on antibiotics and growth hormones.


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You just bounce from one "mystery" to the next. Your whole thesis about SPox in England 1871 just blew up in your face and never even replied. NOW youre off on measles and comparing it to Scurvy. Guess what the SOLUTION to scurvy was? Do ya KNOW? Are ya gonna find out? Hint -- It's not a virus.

As far your curves, epidemics of ANY TYPE are transient events. They dont reach a plateau and linger. The SPIKE !!! And so trying to correlate that with intro of mass vaccinations or different forms of vaccination is USELESS.. One BETTER MARKER for the vaccine is if it STOPS FUTURE SPIKES !!!!

You can see than in the SPox chart I posted. The history of the outbreaks in England was EVERY 2 to 3 years UNTIL various forms of vaccination were used. THEN -- it stopped.

You've been WHOLLY CONSUMED by bad analysis and not much science and thought. Doing EITHER of the latter is gonna relieve you of fear and angst...

Start with PRIMARY SOURCES about epidemics and learn how they manifest. And UNDERSTAND that EARLY VERSIONS of vaccination -- like the "arm to arm" tranfusions -- were NOT effective public measures.. So that you're not making ridiculous claims that can be voided in 5 minutes of research on the FACTS and science..
 

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Any source to you that is not from the MSM or the lying WHO and lying CDC seems to be invalid to you. That is not very good research on your part. And on top of that here is some more information on your lying buddies.


You live in a small world.. I abhor those sources as much as you do.; In the end, all those govt science operations are IRRELEVANT.. I DEPEND on the MILLIONS of private practitioners and experts that work IN A LAB or clinical setting every day.. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS I QUOTE..

What's this? 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. (The Hadwen Documents) - In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don`t Get Stuck, Hannah Allen) - In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures.

Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555) - In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organization after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990) - In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK) See the complete list here;


The Hadwen Documents:


Simple answers to simple questions. In 1880s the prevailing method of SPox vax was "arm to arm" transfers which offered LOW to Moderate immunity and didn't last long. Wasn't a TRUE high immunity vax until 10 or 15 years later. In the meantime the 19th century version of YOU being a rabid ANTI vaxxer was breaking out in Europe because of the RISKS of "arm to arm transfers" which was REAL -- These included risks of transferring other communicable diseases such as syphillis.. SO THOSE anti-vax rebel had a point,. You not so much.. And in FACT -- with the introduction of TRUE LONG LASTING vaccines, SmallPox was virtually eliminated in England by the beginning of the 19th century..

Now YOU could have figured this out by exercising some effort and critical thinking. But instead, you're a collection of random factoids and shit out of context. Here's some links...


1796 - Edward Jenner successfully tests the idea that cowpox protects against smallpox

1805 - First attempt at compulsory vaccination, in Italy, fails

1820 - Smallpox deaths in London fall significantly

1840 - Vaccination Act makes vaccinations free

1853 - New Vaccination Act makes vaccination compulsory in the first three months of a child's life

1867 - Vaccinations compulsory for all children below 14

1869 - Leicester Anti-Vaccination League founded

1885 - Mass protest held in Leicester

1898 - Vaccination Act introduces "conscientious objection" clause

Following chart from ---
Researchers track and analyze smallpox epidemics over three centuries (medicalxpress.com)


4-learningfrom.jpg


Bottom line is here THoth -- As you see in the chart -- A TRUE VACCINE for Spox resulted in VIRTUAL ERADICATION of SmallPox in England by 1900.. And to BOOT those anti-vax Brits STILL GOT govt clearance to OPT OUT of mandatory vax orders in 1898..

See Thoth -- we'll do this with the SAME result --- with or without you...


There is no scientific evidence to show that vaccines are safe and effective, but we do know that after the introduction of vaccines, the death rates attributed to these diseases plummeted. But there is an inherent problem with this logic.


Since correlation does not imply or promise causation, the disappearance of these diseases could be attributed to better hygiene, improved sanitation, as well as a number of other technological advances, all of which came to the scene at the same time as vaccines.

All of a sudden we had flushing toilets and clean running water. We became aware of the importance of nutrition and food sanitation. We covered cesspools and cleaned up the stables and the streets. Better technology, hygiene, and sanitation allowed us to live more salubrious lives, free of dis-ease.

These changes were made well before vaccines were introduced and as a result death rates for these diseases dropped significantly. It just so happens that after these vaccines were introduced, they continued to drop.


Around the same time that vaccines were hailed as the magical bullet for health, we also decided to stop feeding our children ‘swill milk‘, or milk that came from cows that were fed ‘swill’, which a waste product of alcohol distilleries. They used to park CAFO dairy farms next to distilleries. These disillusioned dairy farmers would feed their cows this toxic sludge that’s left over from making booze in an attempt to save some cash on cattle feed. We have moved away from this idiotic practice, but have still not learned our lesson, as today’s cows are on antibiotics and growth hormones.


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BTW -- 2 minutes on Internet WITHOUT your type of blinders on produced this.. NOTE --- YOUR graph on Measles in England labeled Fig 3 is distorted by the fact that the VERTICAL AXIS of that graph is JUICED to make the differences between years appear larger. You can see that because the Y axis doesn't start at ZERO.. Also they use a number and DONT LABEL IT.. I can only assume it's the case rate per 100,000 (or something similar).. When SOMEONE DOESN'T LABEL the axes on a graph, you SHOULD BEWARE !!!!

Anyways -- here's another view of Measles in England.. Turns out that THEY didnt read "herd immunity" until the LATE 60s -early 70s..

measles-vaccination-some-data-2-638.jpg


Measles is primarily transmitted in adolescents. So if THAT FRACTION of the population got targeted in early vaccinations then the TITLE of my graph is even wrong..

So to look at ONE country for conclusions on epidemics and vaccines is called CHERRY PICKING in scientific debate.. How about the Measles vax intro in the US??

Measles_US_1944-2007_inset.png


Think your sources are NOT cherry-picking or ignoring contrary context and facts? Dont fall for it. THINK and study for yourself.
 

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Stop spreading idiotic, dangerous lies. Your lies are harming people, asshole.

The links that loon provides to prove his debunked contentions about the dangers of these vaccines are hilarious. :lol:

It's a discussion board.. Take the effort to discuss and tell him why. Otherwise, it's GroundHog Day everyday on these topics..
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...
"Vaccine makers are immune..." No, they aren't. There is a whole government department for that.

"The checkered past of the..." As far as I'm aware they don't have a checkered past.

"The ugly history of attempts to make Coronavirus vaccines". The whole one year history is ugly?

It's all a buncha nonsense.

When I said "get in the game" -- I didn't mean accuse ME of stuff I never said... LOL... You just scored a point for the other side... :disbelief:

Get the right post to reply... LOL
I didn't accuse you of anything. I went back to the "18 reasons" thing and busted the first few.

Isn't that what you were telling me to do?
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...


Additionally they are now even talking about a 3rd shot from Pfizer and Fauci is even talking about booster shots in a year as data is showing that these two shots only last at least 6 months.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...
"Vaccine makers are immune..." No, they aren't. There is a whole government department for that.

"The checkered past of the..." As far as I'm aware they don't have a checkered past.

"The ugly history of attempts to make Coronavirus vaccines". The whole one year history is ugly?

It's all a buncha nonsense.

When I said "get in the game" -- I didn't mean accuse ME of stuff I never said... LOL... You just scored a point for the other side... :disbelief:

Get the right post to reply... LOL
I didn't accuse you of anything. I went back to the "18 reasons" thing and busted the first few.

Isn't that what you were telling me to do?

Sure.. All I'm telling you is that you responded to ME instead of the other member. Look at the quote-backs in this reply.. No biggy..
 

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#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS

Cant fix all the misconceptions here. Let's just do a few.

Even the PRINCIPLES of the clinical trials -- dont have access to "the raw data".. That's the definition of "blind study".. So I dont know what the gripe is here. because we know how MANY, how LONG, and the percentage of the VAXXED group that died or hospitalized vs the placebo group.. EVERY REACTION NOTED in the clinicals is ON THE SHEET OF PAPER THAT THEY GIVE YOU when you show up for the jab.. If you want to know the EXACT percentages of those reported reactions -- they ARE AVAILABLE.. Quit whining about the "raw data"..

Vaccine makers have immunity.. But there is a HUGE "Settlement Fund" that Uncle Sam keeps in his hip pocket with all the bills he already cant pay.. Some cap like $250Bill.. So -- if you're injured by a vaccine, you apply thru the Settlement Fund..

What "UGLY HISTORY of Attempts to make the CV Vaccines"? The history was about ONE YEAR and that was miraculous in itself. And most of companies who signed up for the "fly off" successfully created one and got emergency approval.. There never WAS a CoronaVirus vaccine for the common cold or SARS -- the latter of which is CLOSELY related to CVid-19. The UGLIEST virus vaccine INITIAL roll-out was for H1N1 --NOT a CoronaVirus.. It was late for approval. The epidemic was almost over and there was a 1 in 100.000 reported contraction of Gullain-Barre Syndrome which halted the vaccinations. No DIRECT LINK to the vaccine was found, but by the time the investigation wrapped up -- there was NO NEED for that version of H1N1 vaccine.. A newer H1N1 vaccine is part of MOST year's "normal flu" shots that are given to more than 1/2 the population EVERY YEAR SINCE..

Drug companies are desperate for good PR these days, for one, and modern lab testing bio tech these days doesn't require 10 years of testing; it isn't the 1790's and the first smallpox vaccine tests, and much of what harms the body is already known re chemicals and combinations. I'm not at all worried about side effects, and all the data points to essentially zero such effects statistically, in the less than 0.005% ranges. Anti-vaccine types are a cult.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..


Excellent! Thanks, so I think I got all that. But the crux of my question is, now that we have a fair amount of datat that shows a SINGLE SHOT of PFIZER IS MORE EFFECTIVE than a single shot J&J vaccine, isn't it wasteful to continue administering the second Pfizer shot when so many people haven't gotten a shot of any vaccine?

Mod Edit: Fixed blown quote-back formatting to make post response visible..

These vaccines are all designed to murder and maim people. It looks like they have already killed about 400,000 people according to the VAERS numbers. Wait a year because they are not made to kill people immediately. It will take some time for the numbers to skyrocket and they will assuraedly keep this out of the mainstream media.

lol rubbish. If there was a Big Giant Conspiracy to Murder Everybody they have a lot quicker and much more effective means to do that than a voluntary vaccination campaign, plus they could be very selective about who to take out and who to keep around. It would be you tards they take out first, not the 'sheep' who get the shots, dumbass. They would want to get rid of the morons first.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..

The 2 shot recommendation was to avoid OVERLOADED reactions by the body to produce the antibodies and start fighting the stuff RECENTLY injected. So -- there is that 2 week or 3 week period to cool off the body reaction in between. And at the 2nd shot -- you are ASKED for adverse symptoms from the FIRST injection..

Was REALLY REALLY BALLSY to haul this out of academic theory and apply it to humans on an emergency basis. But there was some genetically modified" animal tests done where the animal has a "human-like" immunity response in place before the authorization and clinical trials..

With all that said -- a couple countries (France and maybe one/two others) are pondering or enacted a path to using these mRNA vaccines ON a one shot basis. Check the news for that. And Fauci (usually wrong at first) made some noise today about the needs for "booster shots".. Because NO ONE actually knows the endurance of the immunity that ANY of these vaccines will provide against prime variants and CV-19...
So all of those who are vaccinated are going to turn into swamp creatures.

Use common sense:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
By Christian Elliot

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY
#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS
#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS
#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING
#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT
#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID
#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS
#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE
#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH
#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE
#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE
#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…
#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

Full Article:
:thankusmile: :yes_text12: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

best damn post on this thread.:thup:
You're applauding a collection of lies, misinformation, and outright stupidity.

Not all that surprising for you really.

Get in the game here. Nobody wins points in discussion for pointing out the obvious and doing a mic drop.. Tell him WHY those sources are completely unreliable...
"Vaccine makers are immune..." No, they aren't. There is a whole government department for that.

"The checkered past of the..." As far as I'm aware they don't have a checkered past.

"The ugly history of attempts to make Coronavirus vaccines". The whole one year history is ugly?

It's all a buncha nonsense.

When I said "get in the game" -- I didn't mean accuse ME of stuff I never said... LOL... You just scored a point for the other side... :disbelief:

Get the right post to reply... LOL
I didn't accuse you of anything. I went back to the "18 reasons" thing and busted the first few.

Isn't that what you were telling me to do?

Sure.. All I'm telling you is that you responded to ME instead of the other member. Look at the quote-backs in this reply.. No biggy..
You're the one who brought it up.
 

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If you are a virologist or have detailed knowledge about the various Covid-19 vaccines, then please answer this question. If you do not have detailed knowledge, kindly refrain from responding to this thread.

Given that the Pfizer vaccine is showing over 80% efficacy after one dose (CDC report), J&J vaccine is about 70% effective and is delivered as a single dose why is the Pfizer vaccine STILL being pushed as a two dose vaccine with so many people still waiting for their first shot of any vaccine?


Both Pfizer and Moderna (Biontech) vaccines are BRAND NEW technology.. They do not rely on the time tested method of using "killed virus" or "vector host" vaccine that in one way or the other introduces a benign version of the actual target virus..

Instead they use the body to create antibodies based on introducing a "messenger RNA" for a PIECE of the virus. The body then "learns" how to destroy virus from a totally MAN-MADE snippet of the virus DNA..


Excellent! Thanks, so I think I got all that. But the crux of my question is, now that we have a fair amount of datat that shows a SINGLE SHOT of PFIZER IS MORE EFFECTIVE than a single shot J&J vaccine, isn't it wasteful to continue administering the second Pfizer shot when so many people haven't gotten a shot of any vaccine?

Mod Edit: Fixed blown quote-back formatting to make post response visible..

These vaccines are all designed to murder and maim people. It looks like they have already killed about 400,000 people according to the VAERS numbers. Wait a year because they are not made to kill people immediately. It will take some time for the numbers to skyrocket and they will assuraedly keep this out of the mainstream media.

lol rubbish. If there was a Big Giant Conspiracy to Murder Everybody they have a lot quicker and much more effective means to do that than a voluntary vaccination campaign, plus they could be very selective about who to take out and who to keep around. It would be you tards they take out first, not the 'sheep' who get the shots, dumbass. They would want to get rid of the morons first.

People will die in the process but this is more about Transhumanism. They would like to take a large part of the population out but they are being blocked from doing it. There are bad guys and good guys. The good guys helps sometimes, in ways they can but the populations won't know or see it. Good guys out of this world.
 

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