That liberalism doesn’t exist anymore, so what’s the point? Current liberalism is the exact opposite.
Is The Political Divide Based On ‘Objective’ Versus ‘Subjective’?
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Moonglow
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That is not liberalism just like Republicans are not conservatives.
Some are, but I agree we have a lot of RHINOs.
Moonglow
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Then I suggest you take a political science course and learn proper nomenclature if you want to pigeonhole people.
This is rich from someone who just made a broad sweeping remark that Republicans are not conservatives.
PoliticalChic
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PoliticalChic
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I'm still waiting not-so-patiently for any Leftist/Democrat/Progressive to come to grip with the import of the OP that brought your sort here.
PoliticalChic
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On the bright side, the Democrats with any brains recognize their mistake.
For an understanding of "intelligent" versus "ignorant,".....
Which applies to the voter who votes based on 'tweets' versus policies?
Should one vote for a person…or for the policies that person brings to governance....policies like open borders, teaching racism, socialism, censorship of opponents, and high taxes....and rewarding our international enemies?????
Or...accepting bribes from those international enemies?????
Of course making the Democrat....er, ignorant, choice requires far less insight, experience, logic, knowledge, history and facts in our calculations.
And far less effort.
But the result often brings….remorse.
Regrets, you've had a few: 20% want Biden vote back
https://www.msn.com › en-us › news › politics › regrets-you-ve-had-a-few-20-want-biden-vote-back › ar-AAO4csZ
Remarkably, 21% of Democrats expressed regret as did 29% of his Republican voters. The overall hit to Biden was tempered by independents, of which just 14% said they wanted their vote back.
Democrats 'Regret' Voting Biden in Staggering Numbers ...
https://neonnettle.com › news › 16392-democrats-regret-voting-biden-in-staggering-numbers-poll-shows
Time may be running out for Biden's occupation of the White House. Rasmussen reports that "nearly 1 in 10 Democrats regret their vote in the 2020 presidential election, with 12 percent of 'Moderates' saying the same, and 14 percent of black Americans expressing regret.". Per Rasmussen - here are the details: Just 37 percent of voters say they would vote for Biden today.
New Poll: 80% of Democrats REGRET Electing Biden | The ...
https://theblacksphere.net › 2021 › 10 › new-poll-80-of-democrats-regret-electing-biden
Three weeks ago, the same poll found that 42% approved and 50% disapproved. Thirty-two percent of Independents approve of Biden while 60% disapprove. Four percent of Republicans approve, 94% disapprove. Still, 80% of Democrats approve of the president's job overall and 10% disapprove. take our poll - story continues below.
Anyone wonder as to what percent of Youngkin's votes were from recovering Democrats?????
I'm not impressed by this attorney's opinions. The world is changing (shocking I know) and looking back on the success of women and minorities in science doesn't seem like it would take these changes into account.
You're welcome.
PoliticalChic
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6. Is this something that those of us not male, or white, cannot bear????
“Presumably, the critics intuit (correctly) that quantitative measures of scientific influence will show that white males have had the greatest impact on science to date. That finding would not be inequitable on its face, however, unless we define equity as equality of outcome.
The work did pass peer review, however, and no one has claimed that the oversight process was manipulated. The solution to disagreements over premises or method is to publish a rebuttal, not to disappear the allegedly incorrect paper, absent a showing of fraud or belatedly discovered errors so great as to undercut the entire enterprise.”
Shouldn’t not being in the top of or class make us strive harder??? Isn’t that the key to the success of our civilization…..not simply giving everyone a participation trophy????
“The Kormendy retraction is now the fifth in recent years cancelling a scientific paper deemed to bear negatively on equity in STEM. Previous cancellations include a mathematical model to explain why evolution would select for greater variability in inherited traits among males of a species and an empirical study comparing the benefits of male and female mentorship in STEM (male mentorship proved more advantageous). The authors of the latter retracted article expressed “deep regret” for having “caused pain.” Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
We should begin by never apologizing for rectitude. It only encourages the barbarians.
Where did these elites learn to leave reality, objectivity, truth, behind???
Government school, I suppose.
“Presumably, the critics intuit (correctly) that quantitative measures of scientific influence will show that white males have had the greatest impact on science to date. That finding would not be inequitable on its face, however, unless we define equity as equality of outcome.
The work did pass peer review, however, and no one has claimed that the oversight process was manipulated. The solution to disagreements over premises or method is to publish a rebuttal, not to disappear the allegedly incorrect paper, absent a showing of fraud or belatedly discovered errors so great as to undercut the entire enterprise.”
Shouldn’t not being in the top of or class make us strive harder??? Isn’t that the key to the success of our civilization…..not simply giving everyone a participation trophy????
“The Kormendy retraction is now the fifth in recent years cancelling a scientific paper deemed to bear negatively on equity in STEM. Previous cancellations include a mathematical model to explain why evolution would select for greater variability in inherited traits among males of a species and an empirical study comparing the benefits of male and female mentorship in STEM (male mentorship proved more advantageous). The authors of the latter retracted article expressed “deep regret” for having “caused pain.” Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
We should begin by never apologizing for rectitude. It only encourages the barbarians.
Where did these elites learn to leave reality, objectivity, truth, behind???
Government school, I suppose.
Not sure about the diehard Democrats, but the majority of independents who went Biden last year voted for Youngkin this year. That has got to scare the crappola out of Dems. Can‘t win an election if you don’t capture the indys.On the bright side, the Democrats with any brains recognize their mistake.
For an understanding of "intelligent" versus "ignorant,".....
Which applies to the voter who votes based on 'tweets' versus policies?
Should one vote for a person…or for the policies that person brings to governance....policies like open borders, teaching racism, socialism, censorship of opponents, and high taxes....and rewarding our international enemies?????
Or...accepting bribes from those international enemies?????
Of course making the Democrat....er, ignorant, choice requires far less insight, experience, logic, knowledge, history and facts in our calculations.
And far less effort.
But the result often brings….remorse.
Regrets, you've had a few: 20% want Biden vote back
https://www.msn.com › en-us › news › politics › regrets-you-ve-had-a-few-20-want-biden-vote-back › ar-AAO4csZ
Remarkably, 21% of Democrats expressed regret as did 29% of his Republican voters. The overall hit to Biden was tempered by independents, of which just 14% said they wanted their vote back.
Democrats 'Regret' Voting Biden in Staggering Numbers ...
https://neonnettle.com › news › 16392-democrats-regret-voting-biden-in-staggering-numbers-poll-shows
Time may be running out for Biden's occupation of the White House. Rasmussen reports that "nearly 1 in 10 Democrats regret their vote in the 2020 presidential election, with 12 percent of 'Moderates' saying the same, and 14 percent of black Americans expressing regret.". Per Rasmussen - here are the details: Just 37 percent of voters say they would vote for Biden today.
New Poll: 80% of Democrats REGRET Electing Biden | The ...
https://theblacksphere.net › 2021 › 10 › new-poll-80-of-democrats-regret-electing-biden
Three weeks ago, the same poll found that 42% approved and 50% disapproved. Thirty-two percent of Independents approve of Biden while 60% disapprove. Four percent of Republicans approve, 94% disapprove. Still, 80% of Democrats approve of the president's job overall and 10% disapprove. take our poll - story continues below.
Anyone wonder as to what percent of Youngkin's votes were from recovering Democrats?????
PoliticalChic
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The problem is that they are fanatics, they are a death cult, and their views of the defeat is to move further Left.
These are not normal people......they are the Japanese Kamikaze pilots, the Palestinian suicide bombers.....
"Former Obama campaign manager says Democrats need to 'go on the offense' on CRT
David Plouffe, a former Obama-Biden campaign manager, advised Democrats up for election in 2022 to "go on the offense" on critical race theory (CRT) in light of the Virginia gubernatorial election.On Tuesday, Plouffe appeared on "MSNBC Live" to comment on the Virginia governor race between former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe and Republican candidate Glenn Youngkin. Youngkin managed to declare victory later that night following a campaign that was focused on parents’ growing concerns for their children’s education regarding school shutdowns, CRT and other progressive agendas.
Progressives have repeatedly claimed that Virginia schools never taught the curriculum, despite the state Department of Education website listing the phrase multiple times. Plouffe argued that McAuliffe and other Democrats should use a different strategy and "go on the offense" and defend critical race teachings."
"Former Obama campaign manager says Democrats need to 'go on the offense' on CRT
Former Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe urged Democrats to “go on the offense” regarding critical race theory in 2022 elections.
You've just been arguing with one of those geniuses......don't imagine they are sane, intelligent or normal.
Moonglow
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They are not, none have any idea the Republicans can't balance a checkbook when in power.
Moonglow
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Same problems the entire world is having so it's all Biden fault since Biden rules the world.The problem is that they are fanatics, they are a death cult, and their views of the defeat is to move further Left.
These are not normal people......they are the Japanese Kamikaze pilots, the Palestinian suicide bombers.....
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"Former Obama campaign manager says Democrats need to 'go on the offense' on CRT
David Plouffe, a former Obama-Biden campaign manager, advised Democrats up for election in 2022 to "go on the offense" on critical race theory (CRT) in light of the Virginia gubernatorial election.
On Tuesday, Plouffe appeared on "MSNBC Live" to comment on the Virginia governor race between former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe and Republican candidate Glenn Youngkin. Youngkin managed to declare victory later that night following a campaign that was focused on parents’ growing concerns for their children’s education regarding school shutdowns, CRT and other progressive agendas.
Progressives have repeatedly claimed that Virginia schools never taught the curriculum, despite the state Department of Education website listing the phrase multiple times. Plouffe argued that McAuliffe and other Democrats should use a different strategy and "go on the offense" and defend critical race teachings."
"Former Obama campaign manager says Democrats need to 'go on the offense' on CRT
Former Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe urged Democrats to “go on the offense” regarding critical race theory in 2022 elections.
www.foxnews.com
You've just been arguing with one of those geniuses......don't imagine they are sane, intelligent or normal.
Agreed. Youngkin ran a good champaign, downplaying his more right wing policies and using a poor choice of words by McAuliff to scare parents. Of course this is Virginia so he is already a lame duck and, now that he's in office, he do as he pleases. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to enact restrictions on abortions and unions and other unpopular policies and paved the way for a Dem successor. We'll see, the electorate is fickle.
PoliticalChic
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6. “…a committee that awards fellowships for the American Geophysical Union cancelled the slate of finalists that peer scientists had forwarded to it because the three finalists were all white men.”
Is this something that those of us not male, or white, cannot bear????
“Presumably, the critics intuit (correctly) that quantitative measures of scientific influence will show that white males have had the greatest impact on science to date. That finding would not be inequitable on its face, however, unless we define equity as equality of outcome.
The work did pass peer review, however, and no one has claimed that the oversight process was manipulated. The solution to disagreements over premises or method is to publish a rebuttal, not to disappear the allegedly incorrect paper, absent a showing of fraud or belatedly discovered errors so great as to undercut the entire enterprise.”
Shouldn’t not being in the top of or class make us strive harder??? Isn’t that the key to the success of our civilization…..not simply giving everyone a participation trophy????
“The Kormendy retraction is now the fifth in recent years cancelling a scientific paper deemed to bear negatively on equity in STEM. Previous cancellations include a mathematical model to explain why evolution would select for greater variability in inherited traits among males of a species and an empirical study comparing the benefits of male and female mentorship in STEM (male mentorship proved more advantageous). The authors of the latter retracted article expressed “deep regret” for having “caused pain.” Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
We should begin by never apologizing for rectitude. It only encourages the barbarians.
Where did these elites learn to leave reality, objectivity, truth, behind???
Government school, I suppose.
Is this something that those of us not male, or white, cannot bear????
“Presumably, the critics intuit (correctly) that quantitative measures of scientific influence will show that white males have had the greatest impact on science to date. That finding would not be inequitable on its face, however, unless we define equity as equality of outcome.
The work did pass peer review, however, and no one has claimed that the oversight process was manipulated. The solution to disagreements over premises or method is to publish a rebuttal, not to disappear the allegedly incorrect paper, absent a showing of fraud or belatedly discovered errors so great as to undercut the entire enterprise.”
Shouldn’t not being in the top of or class make us strive harder??? Isn’t that the key to the success of our civilization…..not simply giving everyone a participation trophy????
“The Kormendy retraction is now the fifth in recent years cancelling a scientific paper deemed to bear negatively on equity in STEM. Previous cancellations include a mathematical model to explain why evolution would select for greater variability in inherited traits among males of a species and an empirical study comparing the benefits of male and female mentorship in STEM (male mentorship proved more advantageous). The authors of the latter retracted article expressed “deep regret” for having “caused pain.” Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
We should begin by never apologizing for rectitude. It only encourages the barbarians.
Where did these elites learn to leave reality, objectivity, truth, behind???
Government school, I suppose.
Why is it about males with you all of a sudden?
PoliticalChic
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7. Where did these elites learn to leave reality, objectivity, truth, behind???
Here is where it becomes political: they were trained to be blind in the madrassas called universities.
…. this is what our universities turn out today:
“Pew found that 40 percent of Millennials “say the government should be able to prevent people publicly making statements that are offensive to minority groups.” Compare that with 27 percent for Generation Xers and 24 percent for Baby Boomers. Making the data even more alarming is that it was gathered in 2015; one can only presume that the percentage today, especially among Generation Z, is even higher.
What does our culture value? One recent survey found that a majority of college students support shouting down speakers with whom they disagree; 23 percent supported the use of violence toward this end. At some colleges, the percentage supporting such violence crept into the 40s.”
What Happens When Free Speech Dies | National Review
Sadly, these views extend to graduates, post graduates, professional scientists, as well.
How do we get the toothpaste back in the tube????
Here is where it becomes political: they were trained to be blind in the madrassas called universities.
…. this is what our universities turn out today:
“Pew found that 40 percent of Millennials “say the government should be able to prevent people publicly making statements that are offensive to minority groups.” Compare that with 27 percent for Generation Xers and 24 percent for Baby Boomers. Making the data even more alarming is that it was gathered in 2015; one can only presume that the percentage today, especially among Generation Z, is even higher.
What does our culture value? One recent survey found that a majority of college students support shouting down speakers with whom they disagree; 23 percent supported the use of violence toward this end. At some colleges, the percentage supporting such violence crept into the 40s.”
What Happens When Free Speech Dies | National Review
Sadly, these views extend to graduates, post graduates, professional scientists, as well.
How do we get the toothpaste back in the tube????
PoliticalChic
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8. “And now, in addition to the inhibitions on publishing, the cancellation machine is explicitly wiping out judgments of scientific merit if they fail to meet a diversity quota.
In October, a few days before the Kormendy retraction, a committee that awards fellowships for the American Geophysical Union cancelled the slate of finalists that peer scientists had forwarded to it because the three finalists were all white men. Better not to award a fellowship at all than to give it to a white male. The leader in the cancellation effort admitted that the finalists, who specialize in the study of snow and ice, were “truly, amazingly deserving.” But the cancellation would result in a “fairer process,” she told E & E News.
The cancelling committee presented no evidence of unfairness in the nomination process, apart from the unacceptable result. Indeed, the entire American Geophysical Union fellowship process was decidedly pro-female: female finalists overall had a nearly 50 percent greater chance of being selected for a fellowship than male finalists. That disparity is not regarded as unfair, just as the higher ratings given to female scientists by female raters in the Kormendy study were not regarded as biased.”
Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
In a time when sanity prevailed, it would be risible to contemplate science awards being given on the basis of gender, or race.
Not today.
This is the legacy of Democrat/Leftist/Progressive control of the culture.
In October, a few days before the Kormendy retraction, a committee that awards fellowships for the American Geophysical Union cancelled the slate of finalists that peer scientists had forwarded to it because the three finalists were all white men. Better not to award a fellowship at all than to give it to a white male. The leader in the cancellation effort admitted that the finalists, who specialize in the study of snow and ice, were “truly, amazingly deserving.” But the cancellation would result in a “fairer process,” she told E & E News.
The cancelling committee presented no evidence of unfairness in the nomination process, apart from the unacceptable result. Indeed, the entire American Geophysical Union fellowship process was decidedly pro-female: female finalists overall had a nearly 50 percent greater chance of being selected for a fellowship than male finalists. That disparity is not regarded as unfair, just as the higher ratings given to female scientists by female raters in the Kormendy study were not regarded as biased.”
Scientific Merit and the "Equity" Cult | City Journal
In a time when sanity prevailed, it would be risible to contemplate science awards being given on the basis of gender, or race.
Not today.
This is the legacy of Democrat/Leftist/Progressive control of the culture.
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