- Jun 15, 2016
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- Central Oregon Coast
Don't even compare Carter's level of fuckupery to Trump's. Our country is in a hot mess at present. Never worse in my political lifetime although Nixon did come real close.Ehhh no, the punishment for conviction is CONVICTION. And never being able to hold another elected office.Why should Jimmy Carter escape justice for his heinous crime of fucking up my country?You people are dangerously prone to exaggeration. The articles of impeachment were drawn up prior to Emperor Donald leaving office and they involve an incident of sedition and insurrection against the United States of America. Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley need to be tossed out on their ear as well for the same crime."It is limited to office holders" - Where does it say it doesn't apply to former office holders? Doesn't really matter to me actually as long as they get a censure which bans him from ever holding another elected office.Although I would love for the democrats to waste a month or two on an impeachment trial that will never get 67 votes, I need to point out the simple fact that the US Constitution limits impeachment to "office holders", which Trump is not.
it is limited to office holders, and judgments are limited to no more than removal from office and disqualification to hold future office."
So the impeachment trial, or not, is a win-win for Trump and the GOP, because the democrats will lose votes during the "illegal" trial.
It shows how stupid democrats are, the party that thinks the island of Guam will capsize, and are happy wasting the senate's time.
So what cards are left to play by both parties and Chief Justice Roberts?
Besides, Twice Impeached Trump will always and forever be Twice Impeached Trump. And he managed that in one term, a record that is highly unlikely to ever be broken.
If Congress can impeach former Presidents, why not impeach Bush and Cheney? Or impeach deceased Presidents like Reagan and Nixon?
And when the R's get in , they can impeach FDR and Woodrow Wilson for Racism? And Truman for his membership in the Triple K.
If we cannot hold pols liable for high crimes and misdemeanors in their final days, then imagine what happens when another authoritarian populist more clever than Rump takes office and waits until their final days AFTER they've lost an election to commit their most heinous crimes.
And FDR's Jim Crow Army was un fucking constitutional. Why shouldn't he be tried as well?
The punishment for conviction is expulsion from office, Trump isn't in the office, he can't be expelled.
But , actually, I agree with the idea of a trial. Puts Trump on the Front Page, forces Republicans to toe the Trump line, and installs Trump as undisputed front runner in 2024 after he is exonerated.
Jimmy Carter was not a great president, but he was a man of integrity and generally underrated.
Jimmy Carter fucked up our country. Did you see what happened to the economy, interest rates, oil prices, unemployment during the Carter Regime?
Shouldn't he be punished for it?
How about Roosevelt? Is a Jim Crow Army "ok"? We embarrassed ourselves, Mr. Hitler was laughing at our hypocrisy. We said we were fighting for fair play and against German discrimination against the Jews in the Holocaust, but we were discriminating ourselves.